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Let's eat 'em both! How dare the government tell us what we can and can't do with our own animals?
Not that you'll ever acknowledge scientific facts. It's just like talking to people who believe in God. You can't acknowledge that your position is untenable, because then how else would you maintain that sense of moral superiority?
B12 is a vitamin which people associate with animal products. The fact is that bacteria produce B12. As such, it becomes a simple question of - are you going to get B12 from the bacteria in isolation, or are you going to exploit and kill billions of animals just to get B12 from the bacteria within their bodies? In addition, a B12 supplement is injected into livestock to keep their levels up due to top soil being too intensively used and lacking in certain nutrients. So the choice becomes even more absurd - either take a B12 supplement, or give an animal a B12 supplement then kill them. Why take the second option? I already covered this subject here, by the way: #204: B12 (3)
You can get calcium on a plant-based diet, it is in no way exclusive to animal products. Indeed, there are cultures who never had cow's milk, and there isn't a wave of osteoporosis. To take cow's milk requires domestication of animals, and so by definition can only have been achieved relatively recently in human history - prior to that, did we all have osteoporosis? Milk is for infants, it is consumed by mammals during infancy, then there is a weaning process, and in adulthood mammals do not require milk, especially not of another species. If we really needed milk, don't you think we'd keep on drinking it from our mothers? If that sounds weird, then consider that you're just drinking from someone else's mother when you drink cow's milk - and not even of your own species. Examples of plants rich in calcium are: broccoli, bok choy, almonds, pumpkin seeds, okra, collards, turnip greens, prickly pear, avocado, celery, kohlrabi, leeks, brazil nuts, artichokes, green beans coconut meat, onions, gooseberry, fennel, dandelion greens, swiss chard, spinach, kale, butternut squash, brussel sprouts, mulberry, cabbage, sapote, sesame seeds, asparagus etc.
Like calcium, iron is a metal, and has nothing whatsoever to do with animals or the stuff that comes out of them. There is no link at all between veganism and anaemia (iron deficiency) and vegans and vegetarians tend to get their RDA for iron without even thinking about it. Remember this rhyme for iron: nuts, beans and dark leafy greens. Vegans generally have a far better intake of vitamin C than meat eaters (who are, on average, deficient in vitamin C), which aids iron absorption. The type of iron found in meat is heme iron, which is the type of iron your body cannot regulate properly, and forces its way into the bloodstream. This, in turn, encourages production of free radicals, which can damage DNA and increase cancer risk. So it is safer as humans that we consume plant-based sources of iron (non-heme iron). Plantbased foods rich in iron are soybeans, lentils, tofy, chickpeas, tempeh, lima beans, collard greens, swiss chard, potato, tomato sauce, watermelon, dried apricots, cashews, pine nuts, pistachios, chia seeds, sesame seeds, blackstrap molasses, prune juice, quinoa, oatmeal, fortified cereals etc.
Just as the dairy industry has managed to get everybody to associate calcium with their product, so too have the fish and fish oil industries managed to get everybody to associate omega-3 with theirs. Contrary to popular belief, fish is not a 'health food'—riddled with mercury, dioxins, and PCBs, it is highly advisable that you consume plant-based sources of omega-3 to maintain a healthy heart, brain, and body. Good vegan sources of omega-3 include: flaxseeds (aka linseeds), hemp seeds, edamame, wild rice, canola oil, walnuts, black beans and kidney beans.
It's just like talking to people who believe in God.
#653: Veganism is like a religion <--- Just gonna leave this one here.
Note that your arguments are all based on dogmatic beliefs and industry propaganda while mine are based on hundreds of scientific evidence, peer-reviewed studies and papers. I mean, by your logic I would not be talking to you right now because I would have died 10 years ago or so of deficiencies. But my blood test results show no deficiences at all. And the same applies to my vegan friends and family members who have never eaten meat in their life ever. While most of my non-vegan friends and family members are deficient in iron, B12 and lots of other things. Explain that. We are all raised in ignorance by blindly following industry propaganda, but we need to wake up. Animal agriculture is killing the planet and trillions of its beings on a yearly basis. And if a choice has victims, people are going to speak up for the victims. Sorry, that's just how it is. I hope you understand that.
That's a bit ironic, coming from someone who bases their info soley on cherry-picked dubious industry propaganda, while I base all of my information on peer-reviewed studies and solid research.
I know it wouldn't change your mind.
We're talking about facts here, not opinions. If you want to convince me that blue is actually yellow, not blue, you need to provide peer-reviewed evidence of this. As I said, I haven't eaten meat in 10 years and many of my friends and family members have never eaten meat ever, and none of us are deficient in the things you say we are. Care to explain?
I know that people who actually care about animals have looked at this and found veganism to be unworkable, at least for them.
Veganism is not a diet. It's an ethical stance. Someone who finds not killing animals "unworkable" is no more of an animal lover than someone who finds not killing children "unworkable" is a supporter of children's rights. If you care about a certain group, you argue against their slavery rather than finding excuses to continue enslaving and killing them.
The perpatrator not having consideration for their victims doesn't justify them violating their victims. You can use that poor argument for every form of violence and oppression in the world.
Wild animals kill to survive. They must kill to eat, otherwise they would die. Whether they kill on instinct or are aware of their predicament is irrelevant, we are not in their situation. If you live in modern society and have access to crops, vegetables, fruit, grains etc, then you have no obligation or need for animal products. Also, lions exhibit all kinds of behaviour that you would seek to avoid, for instance, violent territorial disputes, and male lions will kill the cubs of a female he wishes to mate with because she won't mate while she has cubs around. Lions are not good ethical role models.
Circle of life
I am not really sure what this means but I will try to cover it - if the suggestion is that "you live you die, therefore killing is fine" then this would justify killing companion animals and also humans. If the suggestion is "we kill an animal so that we can live" then this is false. Animals are killed for the enjoyment of eating their dead bodies. It is not a matter of survival, as proven by all the hundreds of millions of vegans in the world.
If the option that gets me those essential parts of a balanced diet is there, I will take it. Do not tell me I'm wrong for eating meat.
Is this a lions tho? Wild animals kill to survive. They must kill to eat, otherwise, they would die. Whether they kill on instinct or are aware of their predicament is irrelevant, we are not in their situation. If you live in modern society and have access to crops, vegetables, fruit, grains etc, then you have no obligation or need for animal products. Also, lions exhibit all kinds of behavior that you would seek to avoid, for instance, violent territorial disputes, and male lions will kill the cubs of a female he wishes to mate with because she won't mate while she has cubs around. Lions are not good ethical role models. I mean, by your logic we might as well allow all other violence because you don't think morality is a valid reason to prevent people from killing members of their own species, dominating their females and killing their mentally handicapped children "because wild animals do it". I mean, that logic is absurd, I'm sure you realize. You are not lion. You are a human.
Also, you asked "Who cares about the circle of life?" I don't know all who care about it, but I do know the ecosystem entirely depends on it.
Didn't you ever watch the Lion king?
I am not really sure what this means but I will try to cover it - if the suggestion is that "you live you die, therefore killing is fine" then this would justify killing companion animals and also humans. If the suggestion is "we kill an animal so that we can live" then this is false. Animals are killed for the enjoyment of eating their dead bodies. It is not a matter of survival, as proven by all the hundreds of millions of vegans in the world. Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, ocean deadzones, water pollution, species extinction, greenhouse gas emissions and many other environmental disasters. So all it does in fact is messing up the circle of life, in the name of greed. And I hate to burst your bubble, but the lion king is fiction. You are not a cartoon lion. You are a human living in the modern world. "Wild animals kill" is a common excuse used by criminals to justify their behaviour. If your choice harms other sentient beings needlessly, people have all right to suggest you stop. And being told to stop harming others doesn't make you the victim.
Having body parts that are simply capable of doing something does not mean that we should do it. To use an analogy, imagine if a man sexually assaulted someone, and then to justify his actions, pointed at his penis. Yes, humans can digest animal products, but why does that mean we should? Vegans are living proof that humans can live long, healthy lives without eating any animal products whatsoever, and they have the same biological makeup (teeth, etc.) of any non-vegan person, thus it is unnecessary to harm animals when there are alternatives.
With regards to the teeth, it turns out that our teeth are in no way carnivorous/omnivorous anyway. Humans have flat, blunt teeth, with a jaw capable of moving side to side, just like any herbivore. With regards specifically to our 2 pointy little teeth, these are commonplace in various species of herbivores, such as fruit bats, rhinos, hippos, gorillas, and musk deer (aka the sabre tooth deer), all of which have far larger, sharper canines than our 2 pathetic little apple-crunchers that are completely incapable of even tearing through a pillow, let alone someone's flesh and bone.
If humans even had a single omnivorous instinct, the animal rights movement wouldn't even exist because we'd be too busy drooling over slaughterhouse footage to even care. Rather, when we see slaughter footage, we are repulsed by it. A true omnivore or carnivore would salivate or get hungry.
See Milton R MIlls MD's graph here from his paper, 'The Comparative Anatomy of Eating' and decide for yourself how closely humans resemble bears, pigs, foxes, and other omnivores.
protein, calories, fat, thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12.
All of those things can be obtained via a plantbased diet and are in no way exclusive to animal products. Animal products are actually the most harmful way to get them, as they come with high cholesterol, excess saturated fat, sex- and growth hormones and other cancer and heart disease fueling content.
Food for thought.
With regards to being judgemental, vegans judge the majority of life on earth as precious. Meanwhile, it is non-vegans who tend to judge all other species as being not worthy of having even basic rights, e.g. the right to be free from harm and exploitation.