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smokkinq Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
Thanks so much for this
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
what most militant-atheists can be correctly labelled.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
as opposed to what i've generally called them out as, [Religious Atheist].

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BTIsaac Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011
I can't see what's the point. If one believes in a higher power just to hate it, then what's the point of believing in the first place? The existence of any deity is ambiguous enough that every person can decide for themselves whether they believe or not and still make the right choice. This however comes pretty close to one making things up just so one can hate them. It's pretty childish if you ask me.
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crookedalley Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
Some people believe in God so that they have somebody to thank for the world's beauty.

Others believe so that they have someone to blame for the world's suffering.

Personally, my idea of God is very complex and hard to explain without sounding like complete bullshit(yes, even to the people who believe in a cosmic zombie Jew who commands us to eat his flesh and drink his blood), so it's just easier to say that I'm a misotheist and be done with it.
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ChalkArtist1216 Featured By Owner May 31, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Amen to that.  :clap:   In that great line from the movie "The Devil's Advocate"... [god is] the ultimate absentee landlord!"  he doesn't care about anyone or anything on this earth he supposedly created; he takes pleasure in people's suffering.  he's EVIL... he's probably worse that the guy 'downstairs'!
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BTIsaac Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
"Others believe so that they have someone to blame for the world's suffering."

I don't know, I kinda figured that's where the devil came into the picture. Still, I agree that God is pretty hard to explain, though we do have science for that purpose. Hard to tell how close it will get eventually. Not exactly sure how that leads to Misotheism though.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
"quote"---As opposed to Humans/Themselves.

to date, there is nothing that science has 'discovered'/'declared'/proven, that invalidates the Bible/GOD.----throw doubt on commonly accepted assumptions/prove lazy Bible-as-science-sceintists wrong in the literal sense/make people think---yes, prove the Bible/GOD a lie? No.
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crookedalley Featured By Owner May 6, 2012
Well, most people who believe in the devil tend to believe that he's powerless compared to God. The questions that that revelation then lends itself to are: "Why does God let him exist? Why does God allow evil to exist at all? Why doesn't he make evil actions uncomfortable and give humans a genetic predisposition towards kindness and generosity rather than cruelty and selfishness?"

The only conclusions that people can come to are either: 1. God is nonexistent or impotent. 2. God is malevolent and sadistic. or 3. God is so utterly alien compared to humans that he operates with an entirely different morality than us like some kind of cosmic horror out of a Lovecraft story. Neither one of those things I really feel comfortable worshiping or even respecting.
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BTIsaac Featured By Owner May 6, 2012
Actually, the simplest answer to that is a lot more obvious, and I'm a little surprised as to how few people actually miss it. Especially when even the frickin Bible has an entire book dedicated to explaining it, and rather than trying to understand it, people just see it as evidence of God being evil and sadistic.

First if evil doesn't exist, we wouldn't have a defined concept of good either, we wouldn't be able to make a distinction between right or wrong, not to mention if only good things happen tu us, we'd eventually start taking them for granted, and will no longer see their value.

Second, and it's even more facepalm worthy how people arguing against God NEVER consider this. Try immagining a world without evil, without suffering, without any sort of bad things existing at all. A bit related to the above point actually. The existence of evil motivates people to act. It's more of a challenge really. Humans must regularly prove themselves that they can take care of themselves, AND each other. Law and order wouldn't exist without criminals. Medicine wouldn't exist without illness. Charity wouldn't exist without powerty.

I heard a lot of people using the same argument against God, and to be honest, whenever I think of a world without evil, suffering and all the bad things, I keep thinking about a bunch of lazy fat cavemen lying on their backs under a tree and waiting for the fruit to fall into their mouth. No care, no motivation, a perfectly comfortable life. Similarities to modern society aside, I figure a God who does that to his subjects would give even Lovecraft nightmares.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
A book of the Bible dedicated to what?
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BTIsaac Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
Look, i agree with your other comments here, so I don't meen to offend you, but I have no reason to bring you up to date on a long and exhausing debate I had years ago. I hope you're not seriously expecting me to do that.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
well :no:, not really.

but I would still like the Book.:peace:Color me curious. :peace::D
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crookedalley Featured By Owner May 6, 2012
What's wrong with a life like that? Honestly, what's wrong with a life where there is no suffering, where everyone is happy and wants for nothing? It's essentially what we're being promised in Heaven, so why not just make us all in Heaven already? Everyone says "He has his reasons". What reasons? "Well you can't understand them in human terms." Then what makes you think God understands us in humans terms? He looks at us from his alien, unknowable point of view. We don't know what he's thinking. We don't know what thinking even is to him! I can't worship something that I can't understand, and I certainly can't worship something that doesn't understand me.
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BTIsaac Featured By Owner May 6, 2012
Well technically, what we're being promised in heaven is rather vague. And since there's absolutely no way to verify what heaven is really like, I see no point in speculating about it.

Personally I prefer a life where you have to work for good things to happen. Makes it more satisfying, and you appreciate them more. Look at modern consumer society. Immagine it taken to it's natural extremities and you get the world without suffering. People are used to get everything they want without giving anything in return. No need to do good, no need for compassion, no need to help each other and really, no need to rely on other people. A world of overweigh selfish rude slobs who do absolutely nothing with their lives. If avoiding that is one of God's "reasons", it's one I can sympathize with, and it's one I can understand even in human terms. Plus if you consider the creator-creation relationship between God and Men. It doesn't seem as alien as it appears to be if you think about it.
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crookedalley Featured By Owner May 6, 2012
Well technically, what we're being promised in heaven is rather vague. And since there's absolutely no way to verify what heaven is really like, I see no point in speculating about it.

All the more reason to be suspicious, I'd say. "If you don't worship me, you'll burn forever while snakes crawl in your dickhole and Satan rapes your ass with a pitchfork, but if you worship me....uh...you'll get something good." I'd be leery of a guy who's better at making threats than he is at making promises.


No need to do good, no need for compassion, no need to help each other and really, no need to rely on other people. A world of overweigh selfish rude slobs who do absolutely nothing with their lives.

There wouldn't be rudeness, though, because that will cause unhappiness. People will just naturally be inclined to be friendly with each other and have a compassionate disposition. If God is all-powerful, he could just give us bliss on the wind.


Plus if you consider the creator-creation relationship between God and Men. It doesn't seem as alien as it appears to be if you think about it.

It seems more indicative of an abusive relationship. The father beating his kid saying "I do this because I love you" and the kid deluding himself into believing he deserves the mistreatment.

Look at modern consumer society. Immagine it taken to it's natural extremities and you get the world without suffering.

No you don't. Modern consumer society still has things like greed, insecurity, fear, emotional manipulation, and discontent. Not to mention rape and murder perpetuated by psychopaths that dwell in our midst. When I say "a world without suffering", I mean a world where suffering by any means, even suffering caused by other people, is impossible.
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Charanty Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2011
what's that?
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BiohazardousBrat Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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A hatred of God or any other higher being.
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Charanty Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2011
Thanks.
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crookedalley Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2011
Fuck yeah! Fuck God!
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