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:iconjetwanderer:
Jetwanderer Featured By Owner 5 hours ago  Student Artist
Thanks for the tips!
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Jetwanderer Featured By Owner 13 hours ago  Student Artist
I finished this piece yesterday but i feel like there's something that needs to be fixed what should i do?
  New DA ID by Jetwanderer
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 12 hours ago
Very nice work!  (I should do so well...)   I like your light shadings and edge highlights, palette, and anatomy.  Noses or lack of can be style choices, so fine there.  Great eyes! 

Working very hard to find some thing to be picky about, I'd only have two things:  The subject is waaay to one side, so you're off on the rule of thirds.  Her center line is at about the 1/4 point rather than 1/3.  If you were portraying her as being crowded/threatened, then that works, but still a reach.

The other thing would be some counter shading on the black shirt.  You hint at wrinkles/folds by her elbow -- more would be better.  Some accent to the sleeve edge overlapping the dark shirt, etc.  Possibly some more darkness near her neck for the underside of her hair.  That's it.

Good stuff.  Applause!
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MaidenMoods Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel like there's something off about this drawing but i can't place it. Can someone give me a suggestion on what is wrong with it? I think it may be the muzzle and/or the lighting but I don't know.
Twiflight Sparkle by MaidenMoods  
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 5 days ago
First impression -- Balance: Everything is in the top left - nothing bright/dark/contrasting color to offset it.

Second impression -- Color: Everything is the same but two black blotches and a red streak.  And those are low contrast against all the violet.

Third -- Structure/theme.  Sitting on a cloud?  In the process of landing after flight (wings up, legs seated)?  Tail curled, but why?  What is going on?

Thoughts -- I can't tell what this is about.  That's it, and a very big it at that.  I don't doubt you had a theme intended when you started, but it doesn't come out at all for me.  So - what to do?

Line of Action -- www.bing.com/images/search?q=l… This line shows the fundamental movement, real or implied, by the character.  They could be running or reading a book, but the composition revolves around a focus of some kind.  Motion in the first case, and the reading process in the second.  Compositions can be linear, curved, spiral or whatever, but the LOA helps define or reveal the focus. For example:

LinesOfAction  This shows someone holding a fan, sitting in a circle.  Note how the two LOA bring focus to the head.  

Your work and coloring are great.  Maybe the snout could be different, but the biggest problem is the layout.  Take another look at what you wanted to do with the pose and situation, and rework.  This might be better as landscape instead of portrait -- More room for wings, floating tail, and outstretched limbs.

Happy drawing!
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MaidenMoods Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah thank you so much!! I've not heard of line of action until now and that really helps put things into perspective. I did the specific pose because I thought it looked cool, but I didn't think about how the pose actually worked as she was flying. As for the colors, yeah there is a heck of a lot of purple huh, maybe a sunset/sunrise could help her stand out and make it look nice. Once again, thanks :3
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Happy to be of help!  Sometimes the subtle stuff really makes a difference.  And don't forget to check your color wheel!  If everything is to one side, think again.  Triads are your friend!
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inanenormality Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
I've finished this piece but it feels like I'm missing something, can someone toss out a suggestion to make it look more complete? Maybe it's the coloring or something missing in the background? I can't tell.
Bedroom Eyes by inanenormality
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Hmm -- it looks like you were going for dappled lighting through the trees, but the angles don't line up.  Look again at where the sun rays are coming from, then trace those edges back to the source.  If from the upper left, his chest is blocked by her head.  If from the front, then the faces need more light.  If from behind, then edge light the heads.  Either the blue shirt dapples are too light or the pants are too dark.   Edge glow or halos would also be a help.  Keep in mind the sun angle also has to match the background light and shadow areas. 

Also, the billiard ball effect.  Dark objects have a center glow from the source light appropriate to the illumination angle.  But, as dark objects also reflect well at low angles, the clothing needs edge lights, especially since they are sun lit to some degree.  I'm thinkng the back of the blue shirt, her pants (upper edge, and his pants and shoulders.  Hip to underarm is on the shaded side facing grass, so much less if any back light there for edges. 

Agree with TheHaxMan about lighter (yellow, white?) color accents in the grass.  Note here (Bing is your friend!)  www.bing.com/images/search?q=g… how bright and yellow/tan much of the grass areas are.  Even the dark areas have light gray accents as counter-shadow shades.

Great anatomy BTW. Maybe some more clothing folds under her arm?  Hope this helps!  Applause!
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inanenormality Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Very much so, thank you!
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TheHaxMan Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2019  Student Filmographer
I would suggest adding some yellows in the trees and grass. The trees especially; they're in direct sunlight so they should have a little more contrast. Right now the small amount of sky is catching my eye because it's light in value compared to everything else. I think brightening the greens will help balance it out! But overall, your drawing's great! Very cute.
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AjaOkami Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2019  Student Digital Artist
I finished this artwork, but I'm not 100% sure if the colours are actually nice together. 
Laura ~ by AjaOkami  
(and, if there are other things that look weird about this piece, please tell me.)

Anyways, cheers ~ 
Sweating a little... 

 
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Love the anatomy and character model.  Applause!

This is very cold palette tending heavily on blue and purple.  The pale reds tend toward violet (plus pastel) so they don't add much warmth.  The triad counterpoint to this would be a yellow or green.  Perhaps as trim or accents to the ribbons would be enough to warm this up a bit.  Also if the arms and face were less washed out that would add more depth to the composition.

Think of Spider Gwen and how her black/white touch of red costume is offset by her light ballet shoes. www.bing.com/images/search?q=s… You've got everything on one side of the color wheel (cold) and nothing really warm to balance it.

Hope this helps!
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:iconajaokami:
AjaOkami Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Many thanks for the help, mate!!

Cheers!

(I love experimenting with colours, so I should have fun with this.)
Clap :D (Big Grin) 
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Meant to say "light blue ballet shoes" -- the blue was the point. 

Maybe a light green hem on skirt?  You already have the hem edge.  That's all it would take.  Have fun!
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AjaOkami Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Cheers, again mate!
Dance! 
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rebelioussnail64 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
I really like the colours, all I can suggest is making the black background a little bit lighter, but otherwise, I like this draawing :).
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:iconajaokami:
AjaOkami Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Digital Artist
Many thanks, mate!
(The reason why I made it black though, is because in a thumbnail, it'll be cropped down, so without something dark behind her... she'd fade away, if that makes sense.)

But, cheers anyways!
:D (Big Grin) Sweating a little... 
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Lunarelon Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey!
Im super bad at writing long comments- im not really descriptive when it comes to things. What do I do?
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TigRaidoXXX Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
You can take your time to find all the aspects you want to write about and make sure you mention every one. Then even if the comment is not long enough in word count, it will be informative and useful to receiver :) I think you don't need to be descriptive, as long as you make your thoughts clear (like "I think your pose looks dynamic - I think so because I see main line of action, and because the legs are positioned well."). Write shortly about many things.
There were tips and advice somewhere in this group that can help you with the list of things to write about. Look around here: www.deviantart.com/projectcomm…
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Lunarelon Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright, thank you!
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TigRaidoXXX Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
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3wyl Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello! Hi!

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Let me know if you have any questions! I'm happy to help. Love
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SlurExe97 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2019
Hi there, it has been some six years since I last touched a canvas and I have several questions before I start painting this.

1. I remember now how much I dislike sketching on a canvas because of the big mess it results in. Is there a way to actually erase things instead of just smearing pencil lead all over the place? Because this way, I can't paint transparently.
2. Overall, how did I do with the anatomy and overall copying? If there's something I did really badly on (other than the fish which I ran out of space for), what is it? Reference here.
3. How should I start this? I've always filled in the foreground object first out of habit, but with acrylics it's hard to not leave a visible "tracing" line around things. Except there's the issue of having to fix the background again if I did that first, and then screw up the eagle. Also, my sketching lines will be covered up.

FullSizeRender by SlurExe97  

Thanks!
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rebelioussnail64 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Maybe try a plastic eraser... if you just gently press the plastic eraser on the canvas it is going to lighten the area a bit and won't leave as smudges as regular erasers do, it does not erase as well as normal erasers, but if you have some strong colours theen you can cover up the rest. i hope I helped a bit... bye
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019
I don't know if an eraser shield (www.bing.com/images/search?q=e…
) would helps dealing with graphite on canvas, but perhaps some gesso would cover it?  Some brands of white-out /liquid paper might do the trick for you as well.

As for the overall work, I used the two images to blink compare original vs sketch, and it looks like your sketch bird is taller than the original.  That's making it look a bit stubby to my eye, especially the beak.  Since you have digital photos of both, put them in your graphics package and overlay to check dimensions.

Good looking project.  Have fun!
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SlurExe97 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019
I doubt it. Focusing the eraser on one small area doesn't sound like it's going to help, especially when I've been erasing it wide to sort of "dilute" the grey smearing. The pencil marks simply don't come off the canvas at all (other than coming off on the side of my hand which gets all black).

It appears I didn't make the tail long enough. Which is better, should I leave it like this or run it off the canvas?
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019
You can also use the edge to clear everything on one side of a line for larger areas, assuming erasing graphite on canvas will actually remove enough graphite for your needs.

Not being an animal artist, I just note that it looks kind of squished (L-R), and that seems to be because it' stretched Top to Bottom.  A longer beak and tail would help, if that doesn't break your composition.

YMMV.  Good stuff otherwise!
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SlurExe97 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019
I tried, all it did was dirty the eraser and make it smear more pencil. Sigh... Maybe not something that can be solved by a normal eraser?

As it looks now, the too short tail is what makes it look squished. Should I extend that past my canvas and have it get cut off?

Image by SlurExe97
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2019
I don't think cutting off the tail slightly would hurt the composition.
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SlurExe97 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2019
Alright, better than a squashed bird I guess. Thanks for your opinion!
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KindaDrawingRN Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2019  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
I am trying to make the character stand out, however i messed up on this one several times. Id be glad if someone could give me some basic starter tips for when it comes to colored drawings. Thx ^^
Training4 by KindaDrawingRN
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SlurExe97 Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2019
Here's a rule of thumb: foreground objects always have more contrast than the background. Here, your character's colour values look very close to each other, which is why your character doesn't pop from the background. So add more lights and shades! You did well with your grayscale drawings so I think it's a matter of practicing with colour. Good luck.
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Allodoxa85 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is a rough sketch, and I have redone the legs a dozen times, and they never feel good. I hope this would read as a jumping pose. Her head is supposed to be looking like behind her shoulder. I dont normally work with dynamic poses so this is already a lot of effort into a simple sketch. 
Legs Help by Allodoxa85
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:iconatomicsnarl:
atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2019
Hmmm - I'm not sure which leg is where compared to the feet.  Ok, the toon is jumping, so the knees are forward of the body.  From the feet, the legs are bent about half way at the knees, so the knees should be slightly behind and below the rump.  So starting there:

The right thigh is pointed almost directly toward the viewer.  The calf would be horizontal behind the knee (or slightly away from the body) and then the foot would be pointed down at the ankle, extending below and beside the knee.  The foot you've drawn looks more like a side view than a top view.

The left thigh is pointed more down than forward, so the knee is lower than the other one.  Again, the horizontal calf behind the knee etc. and the foot again.

The problem with this is the jump somehow has both calves jammed together, right on top of left, as if someone was kneeling with crossed calves. 

I suggest you draw a stick figure pose as an overhead view from the hips down and sort out the leg positions.  Then again as a side view and see if it still works.  Use those to resolve your 3/4 view.

On the other hand, things look pretty good from the waist up!  Hope this helps.
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MiguelLavariel Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2019  Student
Hello guys
Can you give me some honest criticism on this drawing?
Just tell me what you think, and the biggest flaws, that would be very cool.
Thanks:) (Smile) 
Inking Practice #4 by MiguelLavariel
 
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2019
Hello!  Lovely ink work, though I have some trouble sorting out the pants and folding.  I know you have dark pants showing bright folds, but it looks off.  Not very good at it myself, so no cure ideas beyond checking photo references. 

Anatomy:  Head torso hips legs looking great.  Arms are very wonky.  For human scale, the upper arm is shoulder to bottom of rib cage (elbow), or overhead equal to head height (standard head).  Most people can drape their forearm over the top of their head easily.  As shown, this guy has elbows barely up to the eye line.  Also, the musculature is odd.  Some photo refs (Bing is your friend!):

Note in particular the second and third images.  The pectoral flows up and over the bicep into and under the deltoid. The lattisimus dorsi forms the backdrop to the armpit.  See here:

The point is this guy has no armpit.  The far side arm is a better rendering.

Also, where is the handle of the sword?  When you set this up, did you draw through to figure the bone placements for hands and forearms?  I'll presume the hilt is directly behind his head, held by both hands, probably resting on the back crown of his head.  If so, the forearm shown is only a few inches long, consequence of the way short upper arm.  From this angle, with the elbow properly up near the top of his head, the forearm would mask the upper arm.  The left side forearm would need to be lowered to meet and hold the hilt behind his head.  Looking again, it might be the sword is on his right side above and behind his right ear, with the left arm reaching across the back of his head to grasp the hilt.  Tricky to draw well.

That said, this is not an easy pose to sort out!  I've often had to draw an overhead view to resolve limb placement and overlaps for a complicated 3/4 view.

Lastly, the ears are a bit low unless that's your style.  They're usually even top to eye line. 

Overall, good stuff.  These are tweaks for the next one.  Have fun and keep going!
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MiguelLavariel Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Student
Wow, thanks so much for your tips!
They hitting the nail on the coffin. I can see what you mean with the folds looking a bit weird.
Also, I did not know the detail about the raised arm to head length ratio. Your reference pictures really showed me what you mean.
I will try to learn them, so That I don't make this mistake again.
Yes you are right. I have to practice sword poses ;D
It's true, it looks like the sword has no hilt.
Yeah that's right with the ears being eye line. But if the head raises and you look from below, the ears go down further.
Example by MiguelLavariel
I hope this shows what I mean.
I will try to keep your points in mind with the next drawing. Thanks again! :)
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Happy to be of help!  And you're right about the ears and tilted head.  Because the jaw line was level, I though your head was  upright.  Head back, jaw up depending on mouth opening.  Ah, well -- happy drawing!
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2019
Edit - the direct image link for Lattisimus Dorsi is blocked, so here's the page link instead:



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Raeilia Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2019  Student Digital Artist
Hello again!
I'm working on a sketch of something, and though I do think I got most of the anatomy ok, the composition of the pose feels...off?
  Golly geez by Raeilia  
I really wanted him to be holding the fan (and for the fan to be visable) but having his arm to the side with the fan sticking out feels like it breaks of the flow of this sort of "circling" composition.
Any tips to make it work better, or is it fine? 
Thank you~!
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2019
Take a look at these:  duckduckgo.com/?q=line+of+acti…

Your work doesn't have a clear line of action regarding the fan.  Shoulder-arm-knee-foot LOA, and shoulder-arm-hand-fan, but they aren't working together.

I'm hard pressed to suggest a way to improve what you've drawn in that layout, but consider this rework:

LinesOfAction by atomicsnarl

Blue and Green are lines of action pointing toward the head.  Yes it violates your circle, but it's something to get the juices flowing about layout possibilities.  Good luck with it!
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Raeilia Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2019  Student Digital Artist
Oh thank you so much! Your explanation really helps and I can now see how difficult my composition was...
Also your quick drawing is a life saver. It's rough but I'm already seeing how I can improve the original with your suggestion.
Thank you again! :D 
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2019
Never be afraid to stick-figure out a pose problem, especially if you can quickly drag and drop the major components.

Happy to have helped!
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TwitchyTheNeko Featured By Owner Edited Mar 31, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Snowflake Redesign by TwitchyTheNeko  
I just finished this drawing and am extremely proud of it. I've been trying multiple art styles in search for one that sticks with me and so far, this has been that one. 
Is there anything I should change? I feel like the arms are too short, or maybe it's the colours in general. Should I have used a different pallet? I was going for a pastel kind of thing, but I don't know if this works. Is the shading proper? I'm not sure if it needs another style of shading to fit the art style. Also, I'm sorry that it's a furry, it's all I can really draw well. This drawing is a redesign of this OC here:
New OC: Snow by TwitchyTheNeko  
This is my OC, by the way. Not fanart of someone else's.

Sorry for the long comment ^^"

Thank you for your time!

- Elena 
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TigRaido Featured By Owner Edited Apr 1, 2019
I think that this redesign shows a lot of growth :thumbsup: it looks neat and clean and the shapes look right, even tho simple. And the amount of details is just right.
I think the color choice works well here too. The pink, blue and yellow on the character's are matching nicely, the purple shade color is making them closer. I only feel that the yellow on sides of the picture is just a bit too saturated.

I can agree to the previous commenter about importance of checking the values. A good way to see if you've done well is also looking at the image in grayscale mode (after you've made sure that your monitor is tuned, like suggested :) ). Grayscale image should still show all highlights and shadows distinctively.
I think right now this lacks contrast a bit. The shadows on the blouse are very light, almost same value as the main tone. You could make all the shadows darker, or at least add deep shadows in some small areas.
Pay attention to giving accents on the face traits - eyes and mouth will look better if they are more distinct. It took me a while to realize that it's an open eye, my first impression from the preview was that it's part of the hairdo and the low lid is a closed eye - maybe it's just me, or maybe making the eye brighter and more contrasting would improve the look. While making eye show through the hair, it would be logical to draw the eyebrow too.

But overall this looks very pleasant, due to the pastel color scheme, and quite stylish too. You did a good job and have a right to be proud :)

P.S. And never be sorry for what you draw ;) As long as you do your best and put in effort even furries can look nice. But if you want to learn more about drawing, you could try to be explore new areas :) 
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TwitchyTheNeko Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, I never noticed the thing with the eye, thanks for pointing it out! I'm trying to grow more into the art style, this was only an experiment after all, haha!

I was messing with contrasts a bit, but I'm not too good with what looks right or wrong, so I usually go with whatever looks the neatest. I'm going to definitely put more effort into that. 

I see what you mean with the eyes, I wasn't too proud of those. I'm not too good with that type of thing yet, but I will practice with it. 

Thank you for taking the time to criticise, this really helped!
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TigRaido Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2019
Good to know this gave you something useful to think about :)
I'm sure you will figure how to improve this style with a bit of practice.
Good luck!
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atomicsnarl Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2019
Looks good to me!   Blue/purple and yellow make a nice narrow triad, so no problems there.  A caution using pale (or very dark) shades -- be sure your monitor is set for full grayscale coverage.  Some tend to blend darks or lights.  Try here: johnsantic.com/photo/monitor_t…   for test images to check your settings.
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