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The Dinosauroids

After a lot of fiddling, this is the near-final bodyplan for my dinosauroid. Much thanks to Nemo Ramjet and Darren Naish for the inspiration for all of this - without that initial blog-post and subsequent mad, brilliant artwork, I never would have started.
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TheVindicators's avatar
Hello, Povorot! I like your take on the dinosauroid, being both believable and not humanlike. By the way, I actually created my own design of dinosauroid for a fantasy setting I'm making and it was sorta inspired by yours, but with several features that make them distinct from yours, such as a toothed snout instead of a beak and slightly longer arms.

Question: Why give them a beak? I mean I don't remember Troodontids having beaks and they already have hands to manipulate things.

Also I did at one time considered giving my dinosauroids beaks, but I wanted to avoid plagiarism, so I simply went for a slender toothed snout instead.
Tarturus's avatar
Excellent design. I find these dinosauroids to look far more plausible and interesting than the one made by Russell and Seguin.
WatcherInThePuddle's avatar
These guys remind of Jackdaws.
One of my favorite spec project, keep it up!
S7alker117's avatar
Really loving this dinosauroid concept.

It is so many levels above the original one (wich seemed wrong in so many different levels).

This is really cool. I think you and the reast of the people involved in this concept should make a novel or a comic book about these little ones. They seem so interesting. How would be their culture told from their perspective?
That could make a very interesting speculative sci-fy tale. :)
AJTalon's avatar
The development of these dinosauroids doesn't necessarily exclude humanity from the equation. Say the KT Impact occurred somewhere else on the planet, or was just a little smaller-The Americas were separating from Eurasia, and our own ancestors arose in Africa. If the continents were isolated enough, North America could've given birth to the dinosauroids from the therapod dinosaurs that survived, and Eurasia/Africa would've remained the domain of the mammals. If they retained physical characteristics that would make the need for higher intelligence a lower priority, their evolution might have been slow enough that they'd have remained in the Americas for a good long while, only getting their revolution into sapience when the Ice Ages began to hit in the late Pleistocene.

I will admit, it's mainly motivated by wanting to see how life would've turned out if Homo Sapiens not only had our other hominid competitors to deal with, but dinosauriods as well. Either you step up or you go extinct, and the interactions between our species and theirs seems like it was made for epic storytelling.
povorot's avatar
Y'know, dinosaurs and people is just too shitty d-level sci-fi for me. Aside from that, it's just that humanity arose from such a unique set of circumstances that I wouldn't be arrogant enough to assume it would happen again. Over the past sixty-five million years, there's been enough faunal turnover between the continents to make sure that there'd be decent coverage of both dinosaurs and mammals all over the world - so, if I'm pretending to be scientific about this, I just can't realistically include hominids - much less homo sapiens.

I get where's you're coming from, though - I've been thinking about homo sapiens-neanderthal and sapiens - floresiensis interactions for stories like that...
AJTalon's avatar
Now that would be interesting, heheh...
Saxophlutist's avatar
I love these works! I find dinosaurs very fascinating!
If you don't mind I'm going to go on a :+fav: rampage throughout your gallery.
povorot's avatar
Oh, it's definitely not a problem. I'm glad you like them.
What kind of world do your dinosauroids live in? What are the main large grazers? what types of animals are predators?
povorot's avatar
These are great questions. I want to say that there are a diverse array of therapod and mammalian herbivores, but I'm not sure yet. In New Zealand, a variety of plants evolved to protect themselves from moa predation, but all of their defenses amounted to little when pitted against a handful of goats - does this mean that something similar would happen when pitting beaked herbivores against early rodents and ruminants?

To be fair, I'm sure that at least a few therapod herbivores would be able to adapt new systems of digestion. In taking examples from the real world, there are, respectively, the Moas and the Hoatzin. Moas digested plants like the sauropods did, with a crop full of gastroliths. Hoatzins pack a crop designed for bacterial fermentation, much like the ruminants. I'd put it forward that at least a handful of therapods would have combined the two systems to make a system of digestion effecient enough to compete with their mammalian counterparts in this specworld. If mammals were able to develop a multi-chambered stomach, why not specialized therapods?
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