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Sins of the Many by Pony-Berserker Sins of the Many by Pony-Berserker
So, this is an unusual comic. On the one hand, it's a comic I've always wanted to make - a comic that points out common fan-art mistakes and bad attitude of some fan-artists. On the other hand, I "owed" some fan-art to people who drew Berzie in the past and drawing several simple icons wasn't an interesting idea... also I wanted to draw some OC's of friends and long-time Patrons. As I've got plenty of online friends etc., it wasn't very easy to choose characters... I even added a few without speaking lines, as you can see. If your OC wasn't chosen, don't be sad, please! It doesn't mean I don't like you. There sure will be another occasion for your OC to appear in my comic.
So, in the order of appearance (the panel the OC's were put into was mostly random):
Panel 1: my Berzie. Panel 2: :icondsana:(changeling form) Panel 3: Middy and :iconsaturdaymorningproj: Panel 4: :iconcaustizer:x2 Panel 5: :icontheponystark: Panel 6: :icongrandmoffpony::iconlabbaart:/:iconlabba94: Panel 7: :iconmrposslq::iconmagello: Panel 8: :iconchristamactire: Panel 9: :iconmagerblutooth: Panel 10: :iconsketchywolf-13::iconszafalesiaka: Panel 11: :iconmegaphonnic::icondsana:(pony form) Panel 12: :iconkallenin::iconlakword: Panel 13: :iconsi1entvi3w3r::iconzakueins: Panel 14: :iconjulunis14::iconmagicman001: Panel 15: :icondoublewbrothers: Panel 16: :icondoublewbrothers:/:iconbanebuster: Panel 17: :iconemositecc: :iconchopsticks-pony: Panel 18: :iconthegolden-dragon::iconkoobikitsune:, my Berzie, :icondsc-the-artist::iconsorcerushorserus:

Just some clarification - conversations of plz icons courtesy of DoubleWbrothers and their comics. I blurred the icons so no one says I used episode screenshots in the comic xD
Sketchywolf-13 and Megaphonnic's OC's aren't haters - their OC's are just "criminals" and that's why I used them this way here + they're buddies of mine.
Fun fact - one of the OC's was added as a replacament of an OC of someone who didn't want to be in the comic :P
Similarity of poorly drawn ponies to anyone's art style is quite coincidental.
Wobbly text behind 2nd of DoubleWbrothers' OC is just a random rambling I made up.

If you translate or repost this comic, please do it outside of DA. Thanks! MLP and its characters belong to Hasbro. OC's belong to their respective owners. 3 Nov 2018
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:iconchiyawa:
Chiyawa Featured By Owner 58 minutes ago
Basically this is all that is to know to not do a bad comic strips.
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kwendynew Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I didn't read the description ♪
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PeregrinStaraptor Featured By Owner 3 days ago
This is a very sound advice. I have been wanting to start making up a comic series of my own, but I never truly considered any of what you said. Seeing this gives me a good insight on how to make a few future comics. Thanks for the advice Pony-Berserker.
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MilwaukeeRoadBrony Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Student
Same here
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DallasBlack Featured By Owner 6 days ago
A fun and well created way of parting your wisdom on others. If I were a comic artist, I know I'd appreciate the effort you put into this. Bravo!
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nayialovecat Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2018
Łał. Naprawdę fajnie zrobiony poradnik. Nayia lubi to :)
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:iconzachx888:
ZachX888 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2018
Excellent comic, thanks for making this. (Also nice job on adding all those cool OCs!)
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:iconturbogamer98:
TurboGamer98 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018
So are the fangs a permanent addition to Berzie then?
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:iconwoodboardlord:
Woodboardlord Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018
well i guess something he forgot to mention which is important is continuity in your comics, perhaps that's a subtle way of teaching that
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:iconmokey1980s:
Mokey1980s Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018
Man, sounds like another day in the life of the internet =(
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:iconcaustizer:
Caustizer Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
 My artist :iconbonaxor: totally disagrees with your approach to transparent speech bubbles. They allow more of the art to be seen, so I tend to agree with him. Nice to see Sebastian and Rigel in your comic though. Are you sure bats have under-fangs too? =P
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you open any Marvel or DC or IDW comic, you will not find transparent speech bubbles because transparent bubbles still distort the background behind them and showing background is literally not the point of any comic. By not agreeing with *me* you disagree with the whole professional comic industry, now guess who would win =P One of a very few cases of transparent speech bubbles are the occasional use in case of whispers but they are usually indicated by dashed lines or purposeful negative space.
In other words you and :iconbonaxor: (and everyone else who uses transparent speech bubbles) are trying to... reinvent the wheel =P 
But whatever, guys, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ your fan-art, your fun. People can even post comics upside down if they wish to lol
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Scyphi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm personally half-and-half on the transparent speech bubble thing, and can see it both ways. The pros often don't (big names like Marvel and DC obviously don't, but I'm sure I've seen a popular graphic novel or two who did use a transparent speech bubble at least on occasion), true, and I've personally found non-transparent usually helps ensure the text doesn't get obscured by the background if it's visible behind it, providing for better clarity of reading...but I've also seen transparent speech bubbles done in a nice stylistic way when done smart, so there's that too.

There is one good point I can't deny about the matter though--if you're good enough at planning your layouts of your comics, you really shouldn't need to resort to transparent speech bubbles to show off the background, because if you planned ahead enough, there won't be anything worth seeing where the bubble is already anyway. ;)
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Epulson Featured By Owner Edited Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Too bad I didn't have something like this back in 2011; that would come in handy, back then.

Oh, and it should be "OCs" of "Original CharacterS" (plural form), not "OC's" of "Original Character'S" (possessive form), in the last panel. ;P
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
actually no, traditionally, "OC's" is writen by "OC's" and ' doesn't refer to possesive form in this case. Call it fan slang or whatever. At least that's how most people use it. www.urbandictionary.com/define…
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AceWissle Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018
Do you find yourself still doing any of these mistakes from time to time? Or do you have all of the mentioned tips under control?
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hm.... my biggest mistake is not on the list but it's "Advanced level", i.e. - I sometimes poorly plan without leaving a comfortable space for a speech bubble ;v
of the mistakes from the list... dunno, I hope I avoid them ^^
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AceWissle Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018
I see ~~
How do you resolve that speech bubble issue if it comes up? Do you just cram it in there somehow or do you rework the panel to make it fit better?
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:iconpony-berserker:
Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I cram it - lower line space or font size or make a speech bubble of an unusual shape ;p
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AceWissle Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2018
Yeah, that's probably much easier than to change(-ling) the drawing ~~
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lynx318 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018
Best 'Must Read For Comic Makers' I've seen yet.
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lordmep Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
I could see this being used in an art class. Well done.
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PaperBagPony Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018
Oh! now i can see why your comics are good! ^^

and why mine aren't ^^" heh
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Comeha Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Student General Artist
Nice! And lots of great advice. Not only for comics, but for fanart in general.
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karkovice1 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018
"Sins Of The Many"

Outweight the sins of the few... or the one... =P
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Wixi2000 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright, this was really helpful!
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Diamond06mlp Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
What do you draw with?
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:iconwixi2000:
Wixi2000 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Me? I do art digitally, with Paint Tool SAI.
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sharpshadowXII Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018
"Transparent speech bubbles look quite amateurish. They look bad and you should feel bad if you use them."
[citation needed]
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:iconpony-berserker:
Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't want to sound self-important, but  my experience and knowledge at this point is enough to back up this statement. After all it's an opinion.
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EMositeCC Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Berzie did the biggest sin of all...

Inviting too many OCs. Xb
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:iconemositecc:
EMositeCC Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
I feel like I did all this sins....

OH WAIT IS DET MI? 
*LE GASP*
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:iconpony-berserker:
Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
why did you answer with this comment to a random guy? xP
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:iconemositecc:
EMositeCC Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
What. I dunno. I haven't used DA for a whole week and I already forgot how things work around here!!!
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grievousfan Featured By Owner Edited Nov 3, 2018  Student General Artist
Worth adding is the 180-degree rule, where characters stay on the same side of every panel unless it's explicitly shown that they've moved to the other side.

And credits. Always give credits for assets used, even if it's just that one gem that appears in the background of a single panel OR if you're "referencing" (i.e. tracing) a pose from a pony vector. It is not "cheating" to use pre-made assets for pony fan comics BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CREDIT THE ORIGINAL CREATOR OF THEM WHEN YOU DO. And if it isn't stated upfront that the asset is free-to-use; ask first.






also to heck with ur comic sans hate it is the superior comic font
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:iconpony-berserker:
Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I didn't think of the rule with assets becaue I haven't used any in years >.<
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GaruuSpike Featured By Owner Edited Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE MARVEL-STYLE CAPSLOCK ISN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR COMICS. I KNOW IT'S TRADITIONAL, BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED: NOWADAYS, ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IS USUALLY INTERPRETED AS SHOUTING. AND SHOUTING IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR SCENES WITH SOFTER TONES. IT'S ALSO HARD TO READ BECAUSE ALL OF THE LETTERS ARE THE SAME HEIGHT.
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grievousfan Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Student General Artist
IF I MUST USE A FONT IN WHICH ALL THE LETTERS ARE CAPITALIZED, I ALWAYS "CAPITALIZE" THE FIRST LETTER IN A SENTENCE BY HAVING IT BE A BIGGER FONT SIZE THAN THE REST OF THE LETTERS IN THE SENTENCE.

LIKE THIS. KINDA. IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK WELL WITH HTML CODING.
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Comic fonts aren't "all caps". The kerning makes the difference - comic text is narrower. And yes, they are pretty much the industry standard.
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Tiger-Hawk Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018
That some real good advice.
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Very interesting and educating. Thank you. 
PS: The spider on that pony's neck at panel 7... he will have a heart attack, right?



Btw, what do you think it's the best font to be used in a comic? (I'm new at this)
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:iconpony-berserker:
Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is not one best font. A font that becomes ubiquitous becomes obsolete, that's what happened to Anime Ace.
Here's a list of standard dialogue fonts blambot.com/fonts_dialogue_sta… - these marked with F in a gray speech bubble are free-to-use. I use Unmasked BB
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HeartStorm4ever Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, thank you so much!
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Helsaabi Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018
Oh, you saw my comic strips?

Actually...you have the right point, it's about my comic strip. When I feel depressed and my idea of drawing storyboard before to submit, I would like to hear polite critics about my comic strip. (think to look up) I can respect your comic strip. I'm lazy to write my comments. I guess. 

I miss super talent comic back from 2012 to 2014.

Of course, my best friend who can be fixing my comic strip. Okay, what is your opinion about my comic strip? >3<;
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KeithStrife Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This advice is SO helpful. 
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gvardianangel Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
this is beautiful!
excellent job
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MaddGirlz3761 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
This was genius... Thank you so much for this!! I'll definitely be using this as a reference. :D
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Eric-Michael-Kline Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018
For me the art is secondary to the writing.  So long as the substance is good the art is just the icing.
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
really poor art draws attention away from the story. The package counts too. You need to reach at least an acceptable level of art to get some popularity.
And you definitely should follow some technical rules, then even with poor art you can be good. But it mostly applies to short newspaper strips.
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LunarCakez Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2018  Student Filmographer
Thanks for the tips! :'D You've put a lot of super helpful advice here.
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