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Ash vs Red

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I always see these around the internet, but they're always majorly swung in one of their favor, comparing one's greatest achievements (And sometimes over exaggerated achievements) to the other's greatest faults (usually Ash) so I thought it'dd be fun to actually compare their greatest achievements to eachother

PS: This is game Red, hence why only "Possibly" beat Mewtwo (Otherwise I woulda mentioned Mega Charizard in comparison to Ash-Greninja)
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ShadowBattle's avatar
Now you can add most powerful trainer in Alola in there as well as Tapu Koko for the list of legendaries.
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
Ye~ As well as add sections for catching Legendaries since Ash has one now
ShadowBattle's avatar
And an Ultra Beast, he also caught several but returned them to Ultra Space.
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
Indeed~ But to stay on the safe side I'll only mention the one he kept
ShadowBattle's avatar
Cool, Ash deserves more credit than people give him. Red is overhyped by the fan-base, he isn't even the strongest trainer in the games anymore. Maybe in the manga, but not the games. Ash can be just as good and even better than some versions of Red (cough Origins).
I was always under the impression that Origins WAS canon- just elaborating on some of the ambiguities in the games. The Mewtwo fight being an example.
ShadowBattle's avatar
No, everything is its own timeline/universe. They're all different versions of Red. Origins and the games are 2 different canons.
Huh. I didn’t know.

I guess you do learn something new every day.
Otaku-Seraph's avatar

Idea. What if... we fused the two? :3

pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
That would be too much power U:
Otaku-Seraph's avatar

*De heccin Erf asplodes*

Dulcechica19's avatar
One thing they have in committee, they never have evolved their Pikachu because they could be stronger own their own without evolution, but we defeat Red’s Pikachu easily 😑😑😑
ShadowBattle's avatar
I mean light ball makes Pikachu more powerful than Raichu. And the Pokemon company gives Pikachu so love and extra things that make it outclass Raichu, like a G-max form and personal Z-Moves.
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
True~ (A fact literally everyone forgets when they bring up the "why doesn't Ash evolve his Pokemon" comparison)
paulachu's avatar
You're right. It's like comparing apples and oranges. They both are so different that it's silly to compare them.
EpicPersonCool's avatar
So, Red's more of a specialized expert while Ash is more of a jack of all trades, but both have done very impressive things.
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
That would seem to be the case, really quite interesting (And ironic as one of Ash's rivals has effortlessly wailed on him because he kept using the same few Pokemon)
EpicPersonCool's avatar
It is interesting!
Zenfirebird's avatar
The common factor- They beat their childhood rival.
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
Both at the Pokemon League no less
Zenfirebird's avatar
And both said rivals were arrogant. The difference is Gary was a bit more shallow than Blue and they chose different career paths afterward.
PsychicDuelistRBD's avatar
Ash is finally given a positive look yay
pkmnMasterWheeler's avatar
Ash gettin the respect he deserves :iconsuperw00tplz:
MegaCharizardValor's avatar
"Somehow made Cut badass"
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