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and then there is light

and then there is light, is taken with manual focus TTArtisan 50mm F1,2 at F4

Subject is a second version of an bakelite EOS lightmeter fabricated by Metrawatt A.G.

The EOS lightmeter was first issued in 1936 and was fabricated till in the 50ties.

Found in mint working condition, with instructions in german and leather pouch in the local thrift shop for euro 1,50.

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33M's avatar

what a find this is....and Richard is right about will last forever

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problem is that most selenium cell powered light meters from this age is that the cell is death and the meter don,t give a reading anymore.

I was surprised that the selenium cell was still in good working condition and gave good light readings after all those years.

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I found a new website that has used and old equipment for sale, and some old lenses are going for 5 thousand US dollars...I have about 5 US dollars in my pocket, not thousands....LOL

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A steal !!!!!!!!!! see below!!!!

Secondhand Price depends largely

-on how good the lens was and is,

- how good its condition is,

-how many were fabricated,

-and how many are still available after all those years, and last but not least

-on how many are for sale on the international market

this can result in prices below.

The Ernst Leitz Noctilux 50mm F1,2 Black from 1968, so 53 years old as an used occasion for............ $ 39.500, - on Ebay. (USA). (1700 made)


A new one boxed with al the papers , silver edition !! Noctilux 50mm F1,2 ,

for the asking price of $ 113.000,- !!!!!!!! (Ebay in the Netherworld) (100 made)


most expensive leitz lens, is over 2 million dollar

At a sum of US$ 2.064.500,-, Leica has the honor of manufacturing the world’s most expensive SLR Lens, the Leica APO-Telyt-R f/5.6 1600mm telephoto lens.

A Howitzer among lenses, this 1600mm is also the largest and heaviest telephoto lens at 47.24 inches long, 16.5 inches diameter, and 132 lbs!

(3 made one sold)

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Ahh...good ol' bakelite. It would survive a nuclear war :)

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I found this stuffed into a dark corner on the top shelf of a closet in an apartment I had just rented years ago. I've had it ever since. Have even run a couple of rolls of film through it long ago too now.

Mine is a 1949 production and worth about 50 bucks US which isn't bad for a basic box camera :)

"The Bilora Boy camera was manufactured by the Kurbi & Niggeloh Company ( Bilora ) of Radevormwald/RHLD, Germany from 1949 to approximately 1960. A few variations were made over this time period. This small camera was made of plastic bakelite with rounded edges and a built-in direct view finder. It was capable of capturing 4 x 6.5 cm exposures on no. 127 roll film. It was fitted with a fixed focus Meniscus f11 lens and a shutter with a single speed of approximately 1/30 of a second and time. "

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Hi Richard, started at 8 with a 6 x 6 Ikonta from my father (he never traded his camera's in when he bought a new one). then voightlander, rolleiflex, Zeiss Ikon, lenses mostly carl zeiss,

and ernst leitz wetzlar (Leica).

When i started working met one of our managers who was into colleccting as well of german prime camera's and lenses. We ended up with one table at the international photografica fair, within a few years we had 4 tables (of 2 meters by 80cm) filled with camera's body's and lenses. inbetween fairs we bought up collections, and shops that went bankrupt to fill the tables.

it was our goal, to sell everything before 14.00 and with the profit we bought leica body and lenses for our own collection, and as an investment. (only mint and boxed).

We stopped when he left the company in 2003, and getting of age myself stopped in 2010.

I had 262 lenses (primes), and now have around 20 left.

mainly use these legacy prime lenses on digital body's, and recently have some chinese lenses from 7Artisans and TTArtisan that can compete with these legacy lenses.

I took an early retirement last year, so have some more time now despite the corona restrictions.

sometime i find some small gems at the local thrift shop, i cannot resist in buying it, like the EOS lightmeter.

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Old habits die hard...sounds like years of interesting and rewarding fun.

There are worse ways to spend ones time :99bottles:

That's a cool camera you took this shot with...reasonably priced with a nice optic.

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Thanks Richard, i was looking for digital body's (besides Leica) on which i could use my Leica R lenses and M42 thread lenses without comprimising focussing till infinity, without altering the lenses. this became canon due to its Flange focal distance (body depth).

I still could not use my Leica M lenses and Leica LTM / M39 and Exacta bayonet lenses on the canon , with the new mirrorless camera's body focal flange depth became smaller so i could use these lenses by means of an adapter, and that became the Fuji XE3 (or a Sony 6xxx type).

In fact on the Fuji i could use all lenses with the correct adapter. two examples with adapters

Tessar F2,8 50mm lens aus Jena
Leitz 50mm collapsible summicron in B and W

And last but not least in 2017 Chinese 7Artisans started making lenses for Mirrorless camera based on pre war legacy lenses like Carl Zeiss / Leitz, good quality for budget prices.

one of the 7 left the company in 2019 and started TTArtisan (the thinking Artisan) aiming a to produce lenses for Leica at a fraction of the price, but with the "same"build quality.

as an example the 7artisan 35mm F0,95 review By Jonas rask Medical Doctor by proffesion and amateur photographer and reviewer.

and the TTartisan 50mm F1,2 which i used for several photo's like the EOS lightmeter.

greetz len.

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Amazing price (250 US) for a 0.95 lens. Who ever thought that was even a possibility

Dang only 98 bucks for the T 50mm?

Can your Leica lenses be used without correction on the new Leica digital bodies?

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The Leica Noctilux F0,95 ia about $ 12.000, - and yes in smallest details its better, but not 44 times!!!

The TTArtisan 50mm F1,2 story at $ 98,-

It was announced last year that Leica bring out the noctilux 50mm F1,2 again which was discontinued in 1975.

This lens was build from 1966 till 1975, and only 1700 sold in the 10 years, reason was the price, not the quality!

When an average net income here was 600,- dutch guilders this lens did cost between 2400 and 2700 dutch guilders, so only for a happy few ! these orginal lenses 1966-1975 lenses now sell between 24.000 and 50.000 dollars.


The reissue of the Noctilux 50mm F1,2 from now 2021, will set you back around $ 8000,- !!

And the TTArtisan lens was brought out around the same time for ............. $ 98,-


The TT has a lot of classic charm too as lens, and most charming is its price.

I am a Leica addict all my life , but i find this hard to explain, the TT lens is a no-brainer at this pricepoint , quality (very good/excellent), and yes its not outstanding like Leica lenses!

On digital Leica M body, All previous lenses can be used, m lenses, LTM lenses by means of an adapter M >LTM, and R lenses by means of an M >R adapter but have to use(Buy) an additional EVF and mount it on the hot shoe of the M body, since there is nu mechanical connection between the R lenses and the M body. (the lectronic view finder EVF is around 600,-)

For the mirrorles Leica SL2(s) with an L mount by means of adapter from L > M (LTM)(R)

The original adapters from leica (novoflex) can be expensive, up to 500 $.

Thats the mahor reason i have Canon and Fuji body, since these adapters sell (aftermarket) around 25 till 50 dollar.

For availability of the adapters contact you local Leica store Richard, Questions ?

greetings Len.

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