The Padro GHSS Project

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At GPAS (General Padro Association Stables) we like to play with Padro genetics, as you may know. We've had the Padro Recovery Project, in which we tried to conserve already extinct, unstable mutations in Group Horses. There is the GMC(Genetically Modified Colors) Project, which was succesful in the production of new mutations, originating from other mutations.

The GHSS is right in between the Padro Recovery Project and the GMC Project. While these are new colors, and can be considered GMCs, the genetic combinations aren't strong enough to allow starter horses of these mutations to leave GPAS. Foals of GHSS mutations have proven to fair better in public.


What does GHSS stand for?
GHSS means Group Horse Specific Starter mutation. This means that there can be no starters of these specific mutations released to public use.

How do I get a GHSS mutation?
You can acquire GHSS mutations by getting a slot to a GHSS Group Horse. This can be done by following the regular breeding rules concerning Group Horses

Can I cross a GHSS Horse with another GHSS Horse?
Yes. You can breed GHSS horses with any other Padro horse.

What are my chances when breeding GHSS horses?
All GHSS starters are dominant. You have a chance of 100% of the gene passing on to offspring in recessive form. What's more: there's a chance of 1 in 2 of a recessive (nRsf) gene passing on to foals. So when your horse is a recessive GHSS mutation, it has a chance of 1 in 2 to pass the gene to offspring when not bred to another recessive mutation of the same type. (the latter of which gives you a chance of 100%) This is essentially the same kind of chance a normal GMC mutation has.


Current GHSS mutations and Group Horses:

Jadat
Markings have a tobiano mosaic pattern.
MRR: high
rare points: 15

GR065 HoneySuckle
GR063 Loran


Caon
black and speckling colored marking, similar to harlequins.
MRR: high
rare points: 15

GR060 Qwara
GR067 Chandler


Hatada
Speckling color mimicks dun.
MRR: high
rare points: 10

GR059 Ahmed
GR068 Hero


Norreca
Black 'Ink' stain with white and speckling color spots.
MRR: high
rare points: 10

GR062 Popo
GR064 Nuria


Rosef
dalmatian pattern in black and white (may be reversed)
MRR: high
rare points: 15

GR061 MacBeth
GR066 Saroza
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DestinedFuture's avatar
ooooghhhh I want a Norecca xD
theMadFurball's avatar
Question: Do admins have to draw the horse too, to gain a slot? o_o;
theDeliriousOwl's avatar
Admins can get up to 5 "admin slots" on group horses. After that, they have to draw the horses too. Its the same as regular group horses
theMadFurball's avatar
I see, I see. I had no clue as I never had a slot to a group horse before. Thanks :3
theDeliriousOwl's avatar
Yup! I've never had a slot either but since i'm in no dire urgancy to get foals from the group horses i'm slowly doing art for slots (a massive group picture of some)
theMadFurball's avatar
Yea, I feel you xD I got too many customs to do to think aobut breedings myself, lol
TheMs0kitty's avatar
DestinedFuture's avatar
ohhh boy!  So do we get a slot the same way as a GMC horse?  
AthenaMyth's avatar
May I make a suggestion to correct some terminology? My field of study is genetics and I don't want to seem nitpicky, but when you're talking about one copy of a gene, (as you have up there as nRsf) it would be considered heterozygous, not recessive. Recessive and dominance refers to the action of the gene itself, not the number of copies of a gene. Two copies would be homozygous.

I know its something thats bandied about the community a lot, but it's nice to see when groups themselves use correct terms, even if members don't.
TheElvenJedi's avatar
Heterozygous and Homozygous are big words though, and they tend to confuse/scare a lot of people that don't study genetics, or don't do well with big words.

I understand what you're saying and I know what you mean, but using Dominant and Recessive is a lot less complicated and easier for all the members/admins to cope with :)
AthenaMyth's avatar
I understand that it's easier for people to type out and accept that most people have not a lot of interest in genetics or science for that matter. But I assume more people understand what hetero and homo mean from junior high science classes. The endings are just different depending on what you're looking at.

But I do understand why people use dominant and recessive, even if it actually refers to a completely different gene action. The only reason I bring it up is because many people look at groups as the be all on genetics, and many don't bother looking elsewhere. My thoughts are that using correct terminology and explaining would educate people on what it means and make big terms less scary, or getting confused when they go across other groups and different terminology is being used for the same thing. (Ie, I see a lot of interchange, using Het and dominant. Which... doesn't make any sense whatsoever if you actually understand the terms.)

However, I do respect your and the groups decisions on how to portray things. As I said, it was merely a suggestion and I do appreciate you responding to me and giving me an answer one way or the other. :)
HaloSon's avatar
I understand what you're saying, but for people like me (and I've had many people try to explain these terms to me before), it gets very confusing and I can't wrap my head around it. It's not a case of not being interested in science or genetics, it's just that I don't get it and I can't get my head around how it works, so using the basics of dominant and recessive terminology makes things on the whole a lot easier for me to deal with. 
AthenaMyth's avatar
I understand that too. Sometimes when people explain certain terms, they don't use very clear language either. For me, how I remembered it was, hetero = different. Homo = the same. So if they look the same, then they are homo. Look different, they're hetero.

But dominant and recessive have nothing to do with the number of genes present. At all. It merely states whether the gene will be shown or not.

I do understand that genetics can be very tricky and not everyone is going to understand it. I don't expect everyone to understand how it works, but people do need to understand there is a difference between the two if they're going to talk about it frequently, so that when they do come across it being used, they're not completely lost. I'm the only one in my family who really understands it and I don't expect them to have a clue what I'm talking about.

 But at the same time, if you're going to explain to others how it works, you have to understand how it works yourself or be able to direct them to someone who can explain it, even if you can't yourself. My view is if you present the right terminology, at least then people can choose whether to learn it, or not.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me when people simply can't wrap their heads around it. I get that. I don't understand physics at all and couldn't give you the pull of friction if you gave me all the numbers I needed. It's a mystery to me.

But in my personal opinion (Which is all it is, again, simply a suggestion, not a demand or any such thing and I understand that my thoughts do not necessarily reflect others) it is important to at least present the right terminology so that people are at least exposed to it and understand that the group, person or whatever such that presents it does attempt to present them with what is correct, even when creating their own genes.

But I have received a reply and I respect that and understand why it was stated and I won't touch on it any more so the group journal won't be spammed. :)
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