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Site Update: December 10, 2011

Sat Dec 10, 2011, 1:28 AM

A little while ago, we released the first Updates article. The response was amazing.

We've fixed some of the issues you brought up last time, but there's still plenty to do. We've also been working on a lot of details that didn't come up in the feedback. It's a big list, so get ready!

Change Log

:bulletblue: now supports keyboard shortcuts! Hit up, down, left, right, and hit the Delete/Backspace key to remove any selected items. Hold the Shift key as you move around with the arrow-keys to select a bunch of files at once! - Added by kouiskas

:bulletblue: We've brought back the full word "Comments" instead of using the small speech bubble icon on the Journals in deviantART's footer, and the journals in the Journal Portal, making it a little easier on our newer community members - Added by kemayo

:bulletblue: Your avatar is now the 'tab icon' of the site in your browser (that's if you use tabs!) - Added by Nodren

:bulletblue: Lots of small graphical tweaks have been happening to make sure that "the wrong green" doesn't peek through on (what looks good in the deviantART browse page doesn't necessarily look right in your -- the Literature & Journal thumbnails are now the correct colour, etc.) - thanks to adkbamf and adahacker

:bulletblue: The " comments will not appear in your activity" notice looks a lot nicer, thanks to adkbamf and kouiskas

:bulletblue: Here's a simple fix that should make a big difference - up until last week, clicking into a Stack, then clicking Back, used to scroll you back to the top of the homepage. Now keeps you scrolled to the right spot, which should make poking through your much faster - Fixed by aMoniker

:bulletblue: Drag & Drop is a big part of organizing your You can drag around multiple items to select them, drag those items off the bottom of the screen to scroll down - this entire system has had a makeover this week, should run much better, and fewer problems (like dragging to select not working when you started on a certain spot) - Fixed by Alisey

:bug: Some older journals couldn't be edited! Blank content was, rather scarily, appearing in Writer instead of the Journal itself. Thankfully fixed by kouiskas

:bug: The Journal Portal's contest category was completely blank for a moment! Fixed by kemayo

:bug: IE8 had some drag-to-select slowdown trouble - Now fixed by Alisey

:bug: For a time today, the Delete feature on was simply not working. This is now back to normal - Fixed by adahacker

:bug: About 30 news articles turned out to be large to fit in the new system! The most affected deviant was SlyDante, whose really cool, really detailed feature articles had turned blank. Everything is back to normal, and we've made a special exception for these old articles - Fixed by sgrahamUK

:bug: Some of you were getting an "Unresponsive Script" error on Step 2 of Writer on Firefox - fixed by kemayo

:bug: Using on an iPad was not working briefly - Fixed by aMoniker

:bug: About 2,400 random old journals disappeared! But then they came back, thanks to some bug fixing by sgrahamUK

:bug: Clicking a thumbnail inside a Stashed journal entry opened a page with a broken "All" button in the header! Fixed by aMoniker

:bug: Reloading a Stack's page after dropping a file into it caused you to go back to the home page instead of reloading. Fixed by aMoniker

:bug: meihua had a item that got stuck! It was half way submitted, and half-way still in the This spooky bug fixed by kouiskas

:bug: About 2,300 random journals had a bug that would have prevented them from being deleted properly, and caused some text cutoffs -   Now fixed by sgrahamUK and kemayo

:bug: Visiting items and apps used to sometimes send you to the homepage instead - Fixed by kouiskas

:bug: You can now hold Ctrl (or Command, on a Mac) while clicking on a item to select it, without it opening in a new tab at the same time. kouiskas

:bug: Things that were unstored just after launch got stuck in the! All the deviations affected by this are now fixed, thanks to sgrahamUK

Known Issues

:bulletblue: needs to do a better job at introducing itself! For some folks it's daunting, and it's not clear what it's for. While is useful for a lot of artist's workflows, it's's job to make sure that anyone who visits it understands what it's for. Requested by Befera, RaiDoodles, and lots more.

:bulletblue: The ability to type in "real HTML" in Writer is going to be present as part of the upcoming Edit and File menus. This should solve a lot of problems with "nbsp" not working, and other HTML tricks like that. - Requested by Mirz123, electricjonny and many more!

:bulletblue: Writer is no longer going to automatically resume your last draft when you open it. It was an interesting idea, but in practice it's not very clear, and it's hard to just start a "New Document." Instead, there will be a new File menu, which will allow you to open your last draft manually. We hunch that this will solve some of the problems with drafts some of you are having!

:bulletblue: While makes it easy to upload a lot of files at once, submitting those files to your deviantART Gallery is still not smooth, and it's not possible to submit a lot at once. We will be designing a new Submit application to address all of these issues in one swoop. Based on comments from Created-By-Caz, dorkywaffle, and many more.

:bulletblue: One of Writer's most important aspects is that it presents an accurate preview of what you'll get when you submit. Writer is still having issues with spacing, alignment, certain skins, and especially things pasted from other sources such as MS Word. There's a lot to do here, but it's something we want to get 100% right. Reported by Evlydia, LadyofGaerdon, and many more.

:bulletblue: Author tags are not present on Literature deviations submitted through Writer. This is because Writer makes its own "type" of deviation, with a different thunbnail, but we're altering it to use the old style literature thumbnails, even if it comes from Writer, so that deviantART doesn't have weird inconsistencies. Asked by RetroZombie, Caedy, and more.

:bulletblue: Comments are hidden after they are posted, so that you have a space to freely discuss and critique and plan before submitting something, but many of you have asked to still have access to those older comments after submitting is done. We're adding this feature as soon as we can! Asked by KaizokuShojo, bcbdrums

:bulletblue: Request: The ability to share a Gallery, in addition to Sta.shed Files. Requested by Jenetikitty, orcasandwolves

:bulletblue: Request: The ability Flip, Crop, Rotate, and even Filter images should be possible for Stashed items. Requested by far-off-light

:bulletblue: Upcoming: Add "Edit in Writer" button to public view of Writer-based items, instead of requiring two button clicks to get back into Writer. Also ensure all common actions: Edit, Save are equally as easy to find when you need them.

:bulletblue: We have been developing very exciting functionality for Writer that will permit you to Write and then publish to anywhere you have access to post. This means you can Write an entry and publish to your Journal on your profile, and to a Group at the same time. Or optionally you can publish to all of the Groups you're a deviant of and have access to. This should solve many redundancies in the deviantART system these days where one must copy and paste in many locations in order to get the word out.

:bulletblue:'s file organization interface makes it tedious to access certain functions, such as Delete. A new interface has been designed that simplifies all core actions, and is currently in Alpha Testing.

:bulletblue: Writer currently cannot access Group Skins (only the skins installed individually by deviants). We will soon provide functionality giving you the ability to use any skin you'd otherwise have access to anywhere you want. Our reasoning is, if you have access to the skin you could easily cut and paste it anyway so we may as well make this easier to address the needs here.

:bulletblue: Group Journals are considered "Personal" -- they will likely be re-categorized in the tree and separated from Personal.

:bulletblue: Old systems like the original editor for Journals, and the original editor for Group Journals (formerly Blogs) don't permit you to submit a Journal to a category within the Journal Portal. Because of this, all Group Journals are currently excluded from the footer of deviantART where they would otherwise gain a lot more exposure. This will be fixed as soon as possible.

:bug: Sometimes, for text posts, a "Journal" graphic appears where a "Literature" one should - places like Chat thumbnails, and sometimes inside itself. Reported by exarobibliologist

:bug: Some journals are appearing wider than they should on the Journal Portal, causing the right bar to sometimes get cut off. Still finding out what exactly it is about certain journals that's triggering this!

:bug: Sometimes, after uploading some files, the ability to merge those items into stacks does not work. Still trying to find out what causes it!

:bug: Trying to select a Stack with the Ctrl key causes the Stack to open instead.

:bug: Dragging and Dropping to causes trouble if you've logged out in a separate window

:bug: Bug to Fix: Our formatting system, named Chrysalis, very-occasionally has trouble processing a section of a Writer document. It results Stashed files displaying in correctly on the home page.

Shout about it!

We will never be finished working on deviantART and We will always be adding things. Your feedback is the single most important thing that makes it all work. Please keep your amazing comments coming in - and if you think your issue hasn't been heard - shout it again! We're watching the comments and we will try to reply or add to the list every single issue you raise.

- Pach

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AlphaPower Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012   General Artist
Leichenengel Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I suddenly have the same issue as FriendCreator and iluvwrath :|
o-AkiLove-o Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am having the same issue as FriendCreator is with stash. My art work shows for a moment then vanishes :/
MsBlackrobin Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hello out there! I seem to be having a weird problem- as of today, when I clicked, I would get a brief flash of my art in here, then it would dissapear! I know it's still here-the flash occurs when I refresh the page also- and I can still upload. A little help?
(Also: It would be ULTRA EXTREMELY COOL if you could add a function where you could draw with friends who were on different computers! Please and thank you?)
ForeignSin Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I actually just now decided to check out and see what is all about. Very nice concept that could help a lot with storing images that I simply need independent links for so I don't have to use Photobucket anymore. Thanks guys!

I haven't had the chance to try it out but I'm loving the ideas and the future updates it looks like you guys are considering sound great! I look forward to using the program and seeing how it works first hand. Good work crew!
PawelMatys Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't know if it's a bug or me making some mistake but... when i submit a deviation via stash it doesn't show up on the front page. It happened to me a few times already, though not every time. I've never had such a problem when submitting deviations the old way. Anyone knows what's going on?
RazzleberryWhip Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey! Love stash, but I'm having a problem. I can upload my pictures into stash. I can edit the descriptions, the titles, the category, keywords... but when I click "Submit", it doesn't send to my gallery! :( I don't know if this is a temporary thing going on right now, but I thought you should definitely know about it!

Thanks so much for putting in so much time and effort for this stash project :heart: it really does seem like a live-saver! (This is my first time using it, and I assume the not-being-able-to-submit thing is a bug ^^; )
orcasandwolves Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012

still loving it guys great work, love the click drag multi-select.

Is there any thing you can do about anchoring windows?

I mean, when you drag and drop a file,
is there a coding way to make the webpage remain behind the explorer window,
and not jump forwards with each drop?

Or is that a windows setting??

Snowy-Ninja Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Professional General Artist
Actually its bloody useful for storing stock so you can upload at a slower rate instead of 70 files in one day, and i can upload files on it at uni and download them at home no more memory sticks i have never had problems with stash so far.
JesamineFey123 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I keep getting an error message saying [object OBJECT] What is that?
luckynesu Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012
It's either stash or i should go back to imageshack. Ugh. Anyone know simple reliable image hosting site for dumb mobile phone?
luckynesu Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012
I can't submit things in stash via opera mini! After uploadin there will be the grey box with green upload bar but then after i wait and refresh the file will just gone! Please fix it, i use stash on daily basis, it's the only way i can submit to da via mobile phone.
leyva1130 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2012
Hola, tengo problemas con ultimamente no sube ninguno de los dibujos que quiero T.T
rand42 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
DarkQasim Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
I have an .swf file that I cant submit simply because it covers the buttons in Stash. Kind of an annoying bug. =/
LordGojira Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, did I miss something on "STASH" while I was gone because I can't edit my journals all of a sudden :iconwthplz: (every time I edit a journal, it brings me to the stash page). If this is not a bug and is an update, then this is the WORST idea that Deviant Art has ever conceived. I only hope that this is not an update because if this was an actual idea for editing journals, then it is AWFUL. Way to make Deviant Art more "simple" guys, you "definitely" accomplished that... on opposite day :iconpinheadlarryplz:.
Raingrass Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012   Digital Artist
I tried to edit journal and it takes me to but I can't find my journal there! What happened?
YamaHaru Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Did you go to the "edit journal entries" then hit the edit? or in the actual journal's edit blue button?
Raingrass Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012   Digital Artist
Yeah, that is what I did .... Journals > Edit Journal Entries> edit - it takes me back to but I did not see my journal in

But now that you mentioned it, I did see the blue edit button....WAY down at the bottom of the journal. It could've been easier if it is at the top, where it can be seen and access more quickly, methinks.
YamaHaru Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
Yes, that's what's happening to me too.. if you clicked the edit from the "edit journal entries" it only takes you to and can't edit it... and I agree... I have a question though... if you clicked the edit, can you edit your journal in the actual deviantart site? or do you still need to go to to edit it?
Raingrass Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012   Digital Artist
It used to be that I can edit it on actual deviantart site, but apparently it is not working now. I think it is because I started the journal in and published it from there, instead of starting it on deviantart may be what caused the problem, I think.

But clicking on the blue edit button...I could edit the journal, after all. Ah well.
YamaHaru Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
in the actual journal? Because when I clicked on edit, there's a box that I can edit the description and I need to scroll up and edit in which is really pissing me off because I can't edit my css/html properly in there.. :iconsaiyanplz:
Taokyi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I've gone through My Journal > Edit Journals > and then hit "edit" on an art status journal so I can update it... and it takes to me to stash and doesn't pull up the journal or anything. All I can see is what I have that's ready to submit in stash.
...any fixes? Or maybe I'm just not navigating stash correctly. :(
YamaHaru Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012
I hate when editing journals. I can't edit any HTML and CSS for goodness sake! I can't even figure out how I can do it... The volunteers of #help said that "clicking the edit will get you through to edit" is a bug. But is it really?

I hope this is fixed if it is... I really don't want to edit my journals in
Lovekeysan Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
So apparently this redirect to has been happening all day long. I had to click on a much older journal just to get the old editing style with my journal! It really is ridiculous. I had to back track to my recent one just to see what was on there that I wanted to keep and RE-TYPE that, because I couldn't edit my most recent journal...

I agree that this was FORCED onto some of us and it should be an option to use writer or whatever it is, or the old way. Again, the old way was NOT broken.

PLEASE BRING IT BACK NOW!! I want to be able to click on my last journal and edit it!!
Elastas Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer has a serious issue.

I tried to delete this one draft I had to get rid of the old right?

It deleted something else in my at random. And so I freaked out and thought it was an error on my part and tried to delete the one again. It did it again. So now I lost two stories that took me weeks to write. I couldn't click the delete button in the edit page either. It was undeletable. And I had to submit it as scraps and then delete it.
driftwoodwolf Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Er, so there's this mistake on my journal that's really, really bothering me. I think sounds cool as a storage/organization thing, but seriously, all I want to do is delete one hyphen and I can't figure out how...
Galahawk Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was honestly on the fence about until this.
I was able to edit my journal entries just fine until you integrated this, now I can't figure out how to even GET to the editor. Also thanks to this update you've effectively fucked me over by trashing the CSS I've had in place for so many years that at this point I have literally no fucking idea how to re-code it, in addition to trashing the CSS I had carefully put into place in the journal entry itself gradually over the same span of time.
I can't even access my older journal entries to rescue my coding and put it into place on the NEW system. I would have been significantly less cross with you if my current theme and the contents of my previous journal entry had carried over to the new journal editor menu.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the old journal editor. It was literally so easy a ten-year-old could understand it, and now you've effectively alienated the entirety of the dA userbase that saw no use for this feature until you forced it down their throats.
It's like throwing someone who's never learned how to swim in the deepest part of the pool, but not before stripping them naked before you did.

Screw. You.
hummingbird88 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012
I point blank hat Sta.ah and now it will not allow me not to have that silly thing.
I do not want it and if someon knows how to undo it Please let me know.
It's bad enough that i did not add that and that i did not ask to have it, it was like you (deviantART) said to yourself, oh lets just do it for her this way she can not edit her jounal and to add insult to injury, it says that may delete or you, meaning me, myself, & i along with the other thousqands of souls here with dA have some of their gallery deleted or not seen just for the fun of it all.
And since you decided to play GOD and kick us while we all were already down with this so call is stuff, you forgot or didn't care that it took us forever and a day to submit something that was special to us into our gallery and then took us forever to ick out the perfect keywords that went weiht iour pic. Or did you all not take the time out of your very buy lives to think about that or how we would feel about it all???
NO Please get of your hands and return thee system the way i had it
Yours Truly,
Ms. P. :heart:
Luccicare Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When ever I go to edit some jounral entries, it won't let me and trys to get me tdo this thing.-__-
DarkDrawerCompany Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
Oh, gee.. thanks... NOW I CAN'T EDIT MY JOURNAL! D:<
ravefirell Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012
I love the idea of uploading my art using, its really convenient, but journals too? You might be over doing it. You should allow the users to have a choice in whether or not they want to use this new feature.
bluewrenn Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your making things much more difficult then they should be.

Yes, lets edit this journal, be directed to stash, have to work out how to edit the actual journal;
Get taken to writer, finally edit journal, update, get sent back to stash, update again for the heck of it;
Instead of hitting edit, edit journal and updating the simple way;

Bring back the old way of editing journals or make stash optional for us who don't want to use it.
Pure-Escapism Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If I remember correctly, most people were upset and against this the first time it came out. Not just because of the bugs, but because of how complicated it was. Looking through some of the comments, it's still complicated and the bugs are worse. And I have to agree with the users on here... I like the idea of, but when it comes to the journals and editing deviations, it feels like an absolute nightmare for some of us.
HOOTH00T Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can we have a feature where we can go from Stash to dA? Like a dA logo so we don't have to type in the dA address everytime we go to stash and want to come back. And I have to agree... Can't stash be a optional thing? Many people like the old ways and honestly, I'm not for or aganist Stash, more neutral because I can share my drawings privately with my friends. But just like facebook, who went to so many changes that I'm a bit iffy with them, I fear that dA's going towards that spectrum, something that I really don't want...
Cappies Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012
I really have no use for stash, and would like to have the option to disable it if I want to. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Smushey Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Im against this thing now.

First I thought it was okay and you could choose, but now you have to use sta:sh to write journals and such??

Please, I dont want to use Sta:sh, why cant you just change it back?
Eggplantm Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
BUG Alert! When I try to update my journal, I'm taken to I don't seem to be able to update my journal at all now.
Ookami-Seishin Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I like it for storing images to be used as graphics on my page so is good for that and it's thanks to that I've been able to make my profile look cool. However when I try and edit my journal entries I get re-directed to the page which is extremely ANNOYING because now I can't edit my journal entries.

So please does anybody know how I can disable or turn it on/off?
This issue is driving me insane! x[

It's not that I don't like, I just don't want to use it for my journal. =3
Lovekeysan Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why is it when I'm trying to edit a journal it takes me to It's completely blank and I don't see my journal skins or the stuff I have saved in my journals. I really DONT like this thing, its ok if its for STORAGE; then let us use it for such and leave the journal section alone. It wasn't broken, in fact it was WAY easier to understand, quick and simple edit & post. PLEASE GIVE BACK THE OLD JOURNAL POSTING/EDITING METHOD!
Azimedes Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Furthermore, you don't actually save changes when you edit something in your stash. The system automatically saves drafts. So I'm never sure when the changes I've made have actually been logged in the system. And this is completely contrary to the fact that you have to click the 'update' button when you edit something that isn't in your stash.

You should have just kept stash as STASH because how the hell does this system even make SENSE now. And what in god's name is the difference between this and storage?

Azimedes Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
For the love of god, would it kill you guys to come up with a system that's intuitive? If I want to edit the content of my journal, when I click "edit" it should actually TAKE me to edit that. I don't want to end up on the damn submission page. Moreover, when I click edit on the journal's "deviation page" why doesn't THAT edit the content of a journal? Why the hell do I have to click on a completely separate edit button?

And seriously, could you give us a heads up before pulling this kind of stuff?
BriefLeaf Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Why why why can't I edit my journal?! Why do you keep directing me to Stash, where no option is given for me to edit said journal? D:
The-Night-Craft Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
For Heaven's sake, just make it work properly. All I want to do is edit a current journal and I'd like it when I hit the edit button and writer popped up that my current journal was actually there.

I'll get use to the interface eventually, in a year no one will remember the old one. Just make it work so I can do something as simple as editing a journal. ;_;
kirej7 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pls bring back the old one!

It was easier to work with unlike this complicated and confusing new one!
daysukesplace Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
I can no longer edit my Journals as before and the old way was much better.

The way now is horrible.
NuBearEull Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
This is such bullshit. I can't edit my journals anymore!

Way to alienate users, DA!
lizziecat1279 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Student General Artist
When I go to submit something via stash it comes up with a "no valid response received" error message. The rest of the site is working fine.
crowburd Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have had the problem were if I edit something be either a written piece or a journal it submits a new file instead of replacing the old file. I miss the old way of editing journals, this is just a bother.
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