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Nightmare Before Christmas Halloween Commission
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Nightmare Before Christmas T-Shirt Design
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My Exhibit @ Art Circle Library - #30
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My Exhibit @ Art Circle Library - #29
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My Exhibit @ Art Circle Library - #27
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Baby W.Y.
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Commissioned Sign -{Pyrography And Painted}
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In Honor Of Beatrix Potter
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Patrick - Complete (Pyrography)
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The Star Wizard
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August 24, 1985
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I finally opened my Etsy shop! (link: https://www.etsy.com/people/PTigerStudio) etsy.com/people/PTigerS… Please share, if you like my works! I will be adding more soon!
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Except for SOME of my “FanArt” Renderings, THE ENTIRE Body Of MY Works - (Digital & Traditional (fine art and any non fine) Art, Jewelry Designs that are MY OWN, Sculptures (figurines, jewelry focals, ornaments etc), Pyrography (wood burnned art works & signs), FanArt Works ( anime, non-anime, public figures etc), Photography (it may not all be good, but it's still MINE), Image manipulations (speaks for itself, as to what it is), And any resources I might provide (for DA or other, communities) - If something does not fall into these mentioned types of works, please ASK- do NOT assume it's ok if its not here!) -in this, or
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Massive migraine ATM.... And in a lot of pain ATM as well, from my spinabifida and fibromyalgia and my other health/physical conditions, so.... as long as thesse are still flairing up really bad, I might not respond too quickly. If I don't - then, pl ...
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charadoki|Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you very much for the watch! :D
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SpamBusta| Digital Artist
So i found your page via your Patreon group, and I'm sad to see that its closing down :(. I figured I still wanted to reach out to you anyways, because the sole purpose of your group was for artists to help artists with Patreon... and I'm still willing to do so, and am hoping you are still of the same mind.

I havent made a Patreon account yet, but I am planning to sometime this month
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p-tiger|Professional General Artist
Yes, I still want to work with others.
(This is likely going to seem like a mini rant, I am sorry in advance).
I only closed it because:
#1) everyone (except for 1 or 3 people) were ignoring my announcements. As well as mine, and the request of my helper: to respond for brainstorming sessions, and such, were ignored. My co-foinder stopped responding to me, when he tried to put out a requests for others to donate since they were in the group. And, to that:  I said that, I did not want members to feel pushed to support each other monetarily, that there were other ways we could support each other. After that, he stopped responding to me.
At all.
#2) Also, added to that: yes, I was trying to make a network of artists who could/would work together, support each other... However, the main stipulation for me to network with someone (and if I wouldn't be willing to network with someone, they couldn't be in the group: since their being in it, indicated that I was endorsing them or saying: "I recommend supporting and/or working with this person, I would!" .... If I personally couldn't do that, I didn't want someone thinking that I would, because they were (I hope that all makes sense, I'm on my phone) in my group). All i asked, was that their works, under their professional name (if they had their bloody/violent and erotic 17+ stuff on another account, not under their professional name, I dont care), have to be only family friendly works.

Everyone who I turned away, because they still requested to join when they weren't doing anything that could be considered remotely family friendly (or they had male and female characters exposed (or exposing themselves) here and there in ways that left little or, nothing, to the imagination, those were sometimes scattered in galleries along with works of my little pony, powderpuff girls, pokemon and other kid friendly well known works)....
When I called them on it and refused them entrance, I was swarn at, told that I, and my rules, were stupid, and/or retarded and small minded. I got tired of being called names, having my intelegence questioned and demeaned, and all of that, along with no one responding to Kana (my helper) and I, even my confounder ignoring me..... Well, those are the reasons I closed it.

It was stressful, and my moms got cancer, I'm also not well, haven't been well since I was a young teen, and those two facts, are already stressful enough, never mind dreading logging onto my account here, to see who else hasn't responded, or who else wants to swear at me and call me stupid, and every name in the book(and making up some that weren't in the book).
The reason I want only family friendly creators in my network is because one of my collectors: (a book author who writes some racey romance novels in Amazon's digital marketplace) sits at the computer with her 5-8 year old kids, and they look at every work in my gallery. Her kids have demanded commissions from me, and I want her to know that my part of the net, is safe for them.

She knows that she doesn't need to worry when they say: "we wanna see Aunt Victoria's pictures!", and likewise, I want her and my other collectors to know that the artists/creators that I link to: are also going to be safe for them. And for other families thay they might tell about my works. If that person has their non-family friendly works under another name, and linked on their site, or linked in their gallery, that's one thing. I just don't want to link in any way, to someone's gallery/site, if they have that stuff mixed in with the family friendly stuff.
And I don't care about the parental filtering on DA, that was for networking on patron, and linking to galleries here, or elsewhere, or websites.

It was hard, to close it. That's why its still physically there. It was painful. I really had hoped to make it work, and a real disappointment.... I'm still upset that I couldn't make it work. I still have every wish to work with others, I just thought that was the best way, and I suppose I was wrong.
Sorry about the long response.

Toria
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SpamBusta| Digital Artist
All of that makes perfect sense and is completely valid. As a professional, the people you associate with are a reflection of what you're willing to accept. I mean thats why brand name companies issue out apologies and pull funding with other parties when said parties end up getting caught doing something they dont agree with.

When i get my Patreon set up, would it be ok to contact you about advice and support, and whatever else your group was initially about? I'd be willing to return the favor.

And its a shame to hear what happened to your group, and I hope you and your mom the best with your health.
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p-tiger|Professional General Artist
Yeah, its fine with me.
And thank you. I appreciate the well wishes, and your comments. In all honesty, though, I haven't done anything, myself, with Patreon. I've been there for almost a year and had no one offer support. My collectors/clients either are afraid to get involved with crowd funding, or they can't afford it. As long as its something I can do, I'll be glad to help however I can, though.
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ForeverMuffin|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!. by ForeverMuffin  
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Thank you so much for being a member of my group, Owlies-Inc. It really does means the world to me. :hug:
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