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This is a repost, original is here. Links may have been broken because she deleted her tumblr.
SEE MORE ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON HERE.
Frostbitch goes by many user handles: zhaur, frostbitch, saladsnack, more listed here.

It’s taken me a while to gather up the courage to post this but since others have come out with their stories about this person, I’m going to post mine too. Those looking to commission artists on tumblr, please avoid frostbitch, currently going by saladsnack.

She has gone by many other usernames which can be found here. There are several others who have already provided their testimonials about her scamming and abusing her friends. She, on the other hand, has only provided a wall of text.

Back in February frostbitch was offering to do $20/hr commissions. My budget was $180 plus a $20 tip. I don’t have any chatlogs from this since it’s too far back now, but I do have the paypal transactions:

There is also the email I sent to her the day after for the commission details. I recently shifted my URL from "anhonorabledemon" to my personal blog, if you’re wondering why the name is different. As you can see, after I sent the $180, they asked me several hours later for the tip. I normally don’t do this but I believed their story about going through a lot of hardships.

Here are the related posts, note the dates:

If they’re deleted, I took screencaps: 

I don’t remember what was said before this exchange but she asked me to send the details to her email. Which is strange because I already did back in February, and she told me to use a different email this time. I don’t know what was up with this, it’s not that hard so search my email or my commission, or y’know my payment to her.

Something that set up some red flags was around when I asked if she was all right since apparently someone issued a chargeback against her with commission stuff, so she opened up commissions again. Now that I think about it, if that happened how come she had $8000 to spare (x)? And $3000 bedsheets (x)? And it was the same excuse about not wanting to dip into her savings.

I gave her time and space because this was around the time period I remember her being hospitalized. I didn’t ask her about my commission again until June. And then August. I know I should have just taken the refund when I could even though judging from what others have said she wouldn’t have been able to.

It was also in August that she tried to ask me to do a commission for her. Around the time when I said I could do a sketch, she told me she "gets paid in a few days". I lost track about it afterwards but she never mentioned this commission again and honestly I didn’t want to since I heard, once again, more financial troubles. I didn’t want to push her my commission she owed me until September rolled in.

In September I mentioned the commission she owed me again. She forgot about a $200 commission. I gave her emails, monthly reminders, it can be checked in her paypal history. I know I was being too meek and too generous, but honestly I believed her stories because I could relate to them.

It was in October that I tried to push things more. I even made negotiations so she wouldn’t have to give back the full amount because I still believed the story about her meds/groceries/not wanting to dip into her savings (but that $15,000 vibrator was always in the back of my mind since y’know, that number is my entire annual income). I even changed who I wanted to be drawn just so it would better tailor to her interests. She told me about how her tablet was being weird and couldn’t get to it right away. There were several posts I saw on tumblr about this as well (check her archive for october). I already felt terrible enough that I’m pestering her about my commission even at the time her tablet was busted

But it’s been nine months since I saw any kind of progress and I know I should have said something way earlier, and that I put too much trust and faith into people. To be honest this is still a lot for me to take in since they personally have not caused any harm or abuse towards me, and have been kind, and the only thing was that they made me more anxious and (now) less trusting of others.

They’ve made a post response about being called out, and included their new email into it but I’m not going to bother trying to contact her anymore about my commission, I’m absolutely done and I know I’m never going to get a refund from her or paypal since it’s past the 45-90 day window and it wasn’t with my bank balance.

So please, do yourself a favour and avoid frostbitch at all costs until she decides to get her act together. Or idk, when they get back from jail.



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lil-angeltear Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015
I'm sorry to hear this :( I really hope you can get a refund one way or another ><
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Sabriel-chan Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Couldn't you take all your transaction records etc and issue a small claims court complaint? I mean, yes it's 200 dollars and things may cost a little more...But it would get her out of comission and have a tangible paper trail for others to follow so they do not make the same mistake. Keep pressuring her in the meantime. Tell her you're considering suing her for damages and time and see how she responds to that. Chances are she'll cave then (make the conditions that she refunds you) or if she doesn't, you'll know you're dealing with a con artist. If that's the case you can always get a few people together and sue her. More numbers, more credibility.

Anyhow, so sorry that you're dealing with this crap. It sucks when things end up being a scam.
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nocturnenebula Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
It's a little harder (and more expensive) to do this since it would require international laws (she's from Australia, I'm from the US), and I don't know anything about this. Also she's definitely a con artist, I'm one of the 20 she scammed.
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Sabriel-chan Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
>. < Sorry to hear that! Surely something can be done. Did you contact the websites she operates in and try to get her shut down that way too? Maybe if all 20 of you do that.
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nocturnenebula Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
She's pretty much doing that herself to be honest! And she's constantly trying to rebuild her username but really, she's not that hard to find.
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Xigganin Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just let me know if you need any help. :c
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nocturnenebula Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Eh, this is old but I heard she's still up to her old tricks and it got my blood boiling so I copypasta'd this journal. I'm just not gonna commission anyone unless I've bought from them before or know them IRL :^)
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Xigganin Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Probably the best way to go about it.
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LeanaMee101 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I would push her for the refund to be perfectly honest. And even if it ends in a fat "no", call Paypal and see if they could do anything about. They <might> be able to help you get a claim on it and you have the proof to help your case out. But seriously, she's buying $3000 bedsheets and a million dollar computer with a bunch of upgrades she obviously has no idea how to use properly if she's "having issues with her tablet". Seriously, any time I have issues with my tablet, it takes less than a day to fix because Google Is Life and there are usually a dozen other people who have had the same issue and can help offer a resolve. 

Fight for your money. If you don't attempt to put up a fight, she's just going to continue to do this same scam over and over again to other people. 
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nocturnenebula Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
It's too far back for me to be able to do anything to be honest. Tried to make a claim but the site broke every time I did, and also all of those things she claimed to buy were lies. The reason I'm not asking her for a refund is because she doesn't have the money to do so, she's on Centrelink (australia's welfare), and those she promised a refund still have not received it.
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LeanaMee101 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
:(

Sad that she's on their welfare and is pulling this shit. I'm sorry you had to deal with it.
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