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Hey there guys!

As most of you prabably already know, MGC holds it's last contest this December. Actually this really makes me sad. ... And it made me think.
I know the TV show "Gargoyles" for 11 years now and I'm in touch with the fandom since 2002. And it all has become an important part of my life and me.
Now MGC vanishes.
AMGC is long gone.
2009 was the last Gathering of the Gargoyles.
The DVD-production stopped after Season 2 Vol. 1.
Alhough published as collections neither Clan-Buliding nor Bad Guys did get all issues published as planned - what actually makes me doubt we'll ever see more comics come out.

All this really makes me sad. It almost feels like ..."Gargoyles" is slowly but surely coming to an end and disappears. To me this is a really depressing and somewhat scaring thought. I never ever thought it could be gone one day (I wonder why, but it really never crossed my mind). To me it seemed like all these wonderfull fan-driven projects like the contests, conventions and forums would just go on existing - at least for as long as our generation of fans would exist. Just like it is with Star Wars or Spiderman or such. Now it seems like I was wrong -.-

I guess I just wanted - needed - to talk about these thoughts a little. Or maybe I hoped someone would reply and honestly tell me that "Gargoyles" is still alive and will be for a long time. I don't know.
What are your thoughts and feelings about it? Please share them!
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DjMak Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Same here. I became a fan of gargoyles when I was littler like in 1998 or 1999. I don't know about the year but whatever. I regained it when I discovered my long lost favorite character and I discovered it when I both joined DA and looking through artworks. I know someday, in the long run new fans will be doubling or tripling. Again I don't know the statistic results.
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Mephistodin Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2010
Numbers are still growing, I'm a good example, I just recently started liking gargoyles in 2009. It won't die. We can stop Gargoyles from receiving the full axe. It's head will hang by a few tendons tho people, I kid you not. Maybe some day Disney will hand over the license to Gargoyles completely. Maybe one day someone will take huge folder of gargoyle fanart and commissions and smack some of those shareholders with it.
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KebechetPurification Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2010   Writer
Reading this post makes me very sad, considering I've been a fan for a while. Here and there, I'll come across other fans, or people who have watched the show in the past. Fanbase isn't dead, just shrinking. Greg's still around, answering questions regarding the series on his site. I'm hoping that with Disney's purchase of Marvel, the comics might revive. Until then, there's still a lot of interested folks who'd rather watch this show next to the cartoons on today. Some of them will even get up at 4 in the morning to do it.
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Shaliken Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2010   Traditional Artist
I know this is repeating what others have said, but as long as we fans are still around, gargoyles will never disappear into disreguard :nod:

I myself have nearly all the shows on VHS thanks to a deal I made with a family friend. Hopefully I'll be able to transfer them onto DVDs eventually, but for now and always they are a treasure :)

Cheer up, hon. They can't stop us from keeping the fandom alive, yes? ;)

Think about it, and know that you aren't alone.:hug:

~Sun and Moon

~Shaliken
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vampiremongol Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
like goliath said WE LIVE AGAIN by drawing them and talking about them too, they are caracters that will live on for a thousand year!
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phoenixdragon Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
I've been a fan of Gargoyle's since 1996.
Sadly, I have never gotten to go to a convention, I didn't even know about it until about 5 years ago. Money stopped that. Money also prevented me from taking major part in the fandom.

As much as I love the show, I think the stopping of production of the DVD'S was a complete waste of money and time period. The point in makin Season 1 and then Season 2 V.1 AND NOT COMPLETING THEM!...Waste. I guess, in my mind, all I can say/think is..finish what you started!

As for the comics, the "new" ones, I hope to own whatever there is someday.

Anything I had Garg collected, gone..lost to storage (because of my mother), or stolen. I had the Disney Adventures magazines with the comics in them (not all of them, but still). I had, 4 figures that my brother found on clearance at K*B Toys, 2 incomplete figures that I found at goodwill, a few burger king toys I found at some other thrift store. I had a Gargoyles ballcap that glew in the dark! YEAH, I miss my stuff!!! I had the interactive VHS "movie"...the only thing i actually -looked- for, everything else I got by chance. That was about the extent of my collection, but still..it was mine :(

I can understand the economy, and cost of things but..I guess, I don't understand it either. Maybe the Garg Fandom isn't as huge as the Star Wars fandom is.

I'll miss it all too. Really, I will. And, if I ever get a decent sized place to live, with a room I can just stuff all my collectibles in X3, and MONEY..to the point where I can spend here and there a bit and not have to worry about things, I plan on getting a bigger Garg collection!

Until then, I'll just gawk and squee at fanart!
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supinternets Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2009
I was having the very same conversation last night. I remember getting on the internet back in 1998 and being so excited that there were so many other fans out there that I could share my love of the gargoyles universe with. It seems like all of it is ending now and it makes me so sad. I wish there was something I could do to re energize the fan base again.
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ghostlymarionette Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2009
it kinda makes me wanna cry.I never had to
share anything with other fans only with gold.
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Lunarlight-Prism Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2009
The show still runs, I'm about to go watch it, but maybe it's an economy thing. Hopefully some projects are just on hold till the economy gets better.

Maybe Disney or who ever is currently holding the rights, needs to know it's not a lost cause. Send letters, show art, statues, or what ever. The fans can keep it alive, and with work, we can re-spark the movement.

I've seen many shows and stories I love, just end due to lack of understanding. The creative world is ruled by the uncreative, who think the same old story or flashy attention grabbers are all that matter. No one wants to take the risk any more. Big companies are too interested in what got them there. Risk, hard work, ups and downs.
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jelenasseid Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009
Garoyles for ever!!!
Du weist doch so lange es fans gibt verschwindet Gargoyles nicht vieleicht kann ich dich mit einer tatsache erfreuen die mir zu Halloween passirt ist:
Ich habe 2 jahre lang meine Garghaut im Schrank gelassen zu gunsten einer anderen Uniform. Doch zu hallowen diese jahr streifte ich es über und als ich meine Nichte und meine Schwester heim brachte, stand ein kleiner Junge neben uns am Bahnhof und meinte zu seiner Mutter "schau mal ein Gargoyle".
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Epantiras Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi there Neomae!
Yes, the news of the end of Gatherings shocked me... the end of MGC was a "natural" consequence I believe. I could go on and say "all good things come to an end" yet it still hurts.
I must admit that I am one of those "hard-core fans" who have moved on to other interests and fandoms, but I'm still a gargoyles fan in the heart and I will always acknowledge the things I've learnt and the people I have met thanks to this fandom (and I guess you're one of those people!).
I've heard about mini-gatherings too, but I thought it was just a rumor.
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dufasdan Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2009
I love the Gargoyles cartoon as well. The fandom related to the show is long but seems to be slowing.

I remember when He-Man had the same type of fandom. It tends to go on for a decade or two but then vanishes.

Similar type of hype went with the Dinosaucers cartoon as well as G.I. Joe and Transformers.

My guess is that in the future they will either bring the cartoon back after a long hiatus (like with He-Man and Transformers) or make a live action movie or two off of it (like with G.I. Joe and Transformers).

I am hoping for a comeback in the future on T.V. and the movies. ^\/^.
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garella27 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2009
Oh... I´m really sad...I love gargoyles and I dont want it to die..but the comics still exists and the fans and this will never change because the fans will remember them and also the fans of deviantart =D!! Im one of them^^ :hug:

PD: sorry for my but english...^^;
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Harley79 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2009
I've been drawing Gargoyles since before I even knew about any gatherings or sights, or what-have-ya', and that's never gonna stop. It's simply the finest toon ever made, and will forever demand my utmost attention and respect

And I know I'm not alone
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LifeSong-SoulLove Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
As long as I live, Gargoyles will never die!!!
I WILL NOT ALLOW IT!!!
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Stray-Sketches Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know exactly how you feel.

I watched "Gargoyles" since I was little and fell in love with the show to the point of obsession.
I never attended a Gathering nor was able to participate in the contests, but I always knew Gargoyles was dying out (ever since it stopped showing at normal times and only aired at 4am)

That's why I was thrilled to hear about Clan Building. I have both volumes safely kept in thier original packages to keep them from being damaged.

But yeah, more and more I see fan-based items of the show (10yrs of fandom!!) sadly dying. I also cried when I found out about the Gathering.


BUT, I've survived this long believing Gargoyles would die, and even if it does I sure as heck won't stop loving it.
No matter what, the important thing is to keep your own fandom going.
I still watch the episodes, re-re-read the comics, frequent Station 8, write fanfics and read The Gargoyles Saga.

Dead or not, I'm going to make it live, even if it's just by video-recorded reruns :D

"Long glide the clan"~Greg Weisman
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LexGoyle Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Well, as for me I am surely a fan of the show however I do felt it should have been left alone after it stopped airing. Perhaps it's me not liking the thought of the clan separating in any way or a gay Lexington ending up with something that just looks more like a furry with wings than a gargoyle. However the Gathering was a nice thing to have, though I never did get to make it to one because finances never allowed for it :( The most I could hope for is a blu-ray release of the series... but obviously, we'd all settle for them finishing the DVD release. It's kinda sad that Disney just.. focuses so much on what makes the most money vs just releasing a tv series in its entirety for those of us fond of the show. Let alone one popular enough to have had a yearly convention for as long as it did. I do fail to see why even that is so complicated. The cost for the artwork.. have a contest for the community or just use some stock images. Taking the footage from archives and digitizing them (if they haven't been done already) and slapping them into a dvd with a basic menu gets the job done just fine. I personally don't need the bells and whistles; just the unedited episodes.

But yea it's a shame even the MGC contest is going out. I honestly don't get it still. The end of an era? Perhaps. Maybe someday.. we'll get the last of the show on DVD at the very least and there will always be fans to enjoy them with.
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Songficcer Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
To quote ~BOBZY, as long as there are those who still do art and write stories, Gargoyles will never die!
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animeangie Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
I know I'll probably sound like a parrot, but I too was shocked and saddened by the slow down of the fandom (makes me irk even more since my scanner went ka-put).I too never attended a Gathering (due to both age and living in Canada) and have wished to. In my life, Gargoyles (and Pokemon respectively) will always be a part of it. I won't ever give up being a fan of it.

I think as long as the fans themselves keep the love of Gargoyles alive in their hearts, it'll never truely go away. :nod: (God that sounded so corny! XD) And who knows, maybe it'll be reborn again someday (after all, there is a trend of turning old cartoons into movies as of late).

Okay, I'm done repeating my thoughts now. ^-^;
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STAN4US Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
I am sorry for you fellow fans of the Gargoyles as well for the franchise itself. I wish I could attend the Gathering conventions if I was old enough and had the money. I always wanted to role play Gargoyles if I could find a place to welcome me and my ideas for characters and stories. And I wish I could still draw as I used to do when I was younger and had more freedom with time before school and life. Nonetheless, I will always love and remember Greg's and Disney's Gargoyles forever for the rest of my life living on as a I am alive. I maybe too late for the Gathering and for MGC, but as you fellow fans said, DA is still keeping it alive and well. Even some other websites, too. I myself is currently finding the chance and the skill to write my first fan fictions which are based on Gargoyles and still seeking to someday role play them. Maybe I might even try to draw once again.

It is sad, like you are, we missed out on the opportunities that did existed before, but you are not alone. You have all of eachother and have others like me out there that finally getting into the fan community after a long time or even newly discovering the franchise for the very first time.I just hope the rest of us wil lnot give up because others have do so. I should have not nor you have and I never will. We love the Gargoyles that much thus far not to let it forgotten now. So, I hope I can do whatever I can for as long as I can for all you fans out there as for myself towards the Gargoyles universe.
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ArtbyMaryC Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I was lucky enough to make the 2009 my first Gathering and was shocked to hear soon after signing up that it would be the last.

I heard some of the dealers and big fandom artist talking about having a friendly mini-gathering at the Califur con next year as many of them will be attending that. That's something to look forward to :)
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BrooklynBH Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know, it seems it's gooing to really dissapear, and it's sad, but, like everything in life, nothing is forever, and we have to move on, I know it will still apear someone making fanart, but, it's been a while since I had seen people doing some fanart, so, it will dissapear, not 100%, but it will.

at least, its been a while since the show stopped, I mean, from 1996 to 2006 there has been nothing made for gargoyles that greg has done, and suddendly the DVD appeared, and also comics, so, it made a lot for what anyone could expect.

It's a shame that there's no distributor for Mexico, so, I just bought the two DVDs, but no chance to get at least one comic
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sure we can find someone who can help you out with the comics. I bought mine on Amazon or in local comic stores which imported them from the USA. We could ask someone from the USA to buy the comic for you and send it to you. You could pay via Paypal?
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BrooklynBH Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that's the thing, I'm totally broke since 2 months ago, so, I can't afford anything, if I ask a frind, I can get access to paypal, but right now, I can't really, until I can get another job maybe, but in this days it's getting harder to get one :/
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ForeverACharmedOne Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
:( It won't die. Not as long as there are fans. And of course Greg.

...Plus all fans could convert their children if they have them/will one day have them. XD
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hehe, that sounds almost like a conspiracy XD

I hope Greg will keep supporting the fandom and not give up on it.
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ForeverACharmedOne Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
Hey, would a Gargoyles conspiracy be a bad thing? XD

I'm sure he'll never give up. :salute:
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BOBSZY Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
It is sad, but it'll remain alive so long as the fans do art, write fanfics, and pettition Disney for S2V2 and TGC for DVD.

Going to do the last MGC?
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Songficcer Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well said!
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BOBSZY Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
;)
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, I definetely will!

You know, in my eyes you are one of the people keeping Gargoyles alive here at DA. I mean, you do these awsome fanfictions and get these amazing commissions. You bring artists together and make them part of you project. I really enjoy that. Thank you very much for that! Please don't stop!
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BOBSZY Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
Super!

I haven't quit yet. :)

I'm also going to be apart of this last MGC, with the help of......you can probably guess who. =D

Here are my latest commissions in case you haven't seen them yet.

Just posted yesterday: [link]

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randomman28 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
Well what I don't get is why the "web comic" angle hasn't been tried, that way there's no need to mass produce and if someone does want a book it can be bought at the site for a little bit more then normal. I wouldn't care on the price I'd buy ten no matter what.
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A webcomic would work fine with me, too. But I think it's a matter of rights and money. Disney still owns the rights on Gargoyles and probably won't give them away without profit - I think they'd rather let it die. And then the artists and writers couldn't do it for free, either, I guess. I think you can't spent that much money in something that won't earn you money in return at all.
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randomman28 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009
Maybe but couldn't Disney get away with charging what ever they wanted on ad space?
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not too familiar with that. Do you think ad space could bring them enough money to cover all costs and even bring some profit?
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Deviantroid Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Student Digital Artist
No...! I will miss them. I always wanted to get the collection of Gargoyles Comics...
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not to late to buy the SLG collections Clan-Builing 1 and 2 and Bad Guys and you can download the Marvell Comic issues 1 to 11. =)

I was really waiting for Timedancer. When Greg said Timedancer would be one of the last spinoffs to be released I thought the chances of it being actually produced were slim but I never stopped hoping we'd still get it.
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Deviantroid Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Yeah. ^_^ The new character Katana is really cool. ^_^ She looks more "birdy" in a cute way than she is as a gargoyle.
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coda-leia Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I felt exactly the same. Gargoyles is a part of me, a part of my being and it really helped me growing up and in lots of ways.
I never thought that it the e-fandom would vanish that way. And I feel really sad because I found there some people who thought and felt like me, like Gargoyles was just more than a TV cartoon.
I was so eager to meet other fans around the world, and share this peculiar thing.

I know that I won't stop drawing gargoyles (TV ones and my own) and I still will play it on RPG but I feel like I'm back before internet, when I was drawing on my own, and not being able to share it with others. MGC and gathering were the expression of fans acting together and sharing.
I felt like being a part of a huge thing.

And I don't know what to do to experience this again.
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel exactly the same way. And I, too, won't stop drawing and loving Gargoyles. I guess I never could.

Somehow I can't imagine going on without the fandom and being on my own with it again.
But as it seems, there still are fans like you and me and I guess that is at least a good base - and maybe we will find a way to continue and bring this experience back for us.
At the moment all my hopes focus on the GargoylesClub here at DA. Now that it's the only way fan(artist)s can connect, maybe it will get more attention again - from both memebers and admin.

Thank you very much for sharing your feelings. Hearing that there is someone out there feeling that much the same way really means a lot to me!
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coda-leia Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Yes the GargoylesClub. I joined but I never posted my art in there. That should be a good start.

I know that some of gargoyles fans in Canada and US were eager to plan another gathering, less official, we have to stay tuned !

I'm so sad not having being able to attend a Gathering. I dreamed about it for so long ! I intended to go last summer but I financially couldn't. I was deeply motivated to go next summer. After that when I heard that 2009 Gathering would be the last, my heart broke.
One year. That's all I asked v__v

And it's so difficult to find people who could share this with us here (at least here in France, I met only 3 or 4 fans T__T People suck here v___v)
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Whimsy-Floof Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I was thinking the exact same thing. =(
It really is depressing to think about.
Which leads me to wonder what Greg Weisman must be feeling. =(
This is his baby after all, and Disney's shooting it down at every pass.
Not to mention the fans slowly losing interest in it.

It makes me sad because I never got the chance to attend a Gathering. =(
And now I'll never get the chance to.
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel that way, too. I dreamed about attending a Gathering ever since I heard about it but now that dream will never come true -.-

Greg fights really hard for his baby and I'm really impressed about what he and the fans were able to achieve. It's really hard for me to believe that all this is coming to an end now :cry:
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Whimsy-Floof Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
My only comfort is that a small bit of my artwork had made it to a Gathering in the form of that awesome group picture project. =)
That was a very happy moment for me. And I know it's one I'll never forget. ^_^
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm so happy I could help give you this nice memory! I love to think back at this project, too. Connecting with all these great artists was such an amazing experience! I'd not hesitate if I got the chance to be part of semething like this again one day.
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Whimsy-Floof Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Nor would I.
If such an opportunity should present itself again, you can bet I'll jump right in to join it. =)
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PanHesekielShiroi Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
As long as there are people remembering it, it will not cease to exist.
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Neomae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But the fandom seems to cease to exist. As coda-leia said: it's just like being back before the internet-age - alone with it.
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PanHesekielShiroi Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
But there are still people like you who will remain "fans". And I'm sure those people will try to keep in touch with each other. Maybe the fandom gets smaller but it won't cease to exist. It might get harder to find people with the same interests, but that doesn't mean it's impossible or there aren't such people anymore.
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