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Edit #5
Well, I'll be damned
Staff reply here: comments.deviantart.com/1/7310…

And we WON! We did it!
and my comment here: comments.deviantart.com/1/7310… stating why this is still up

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Edit #4: Iran is geobanned too see here Imagine!
Bravo deviantart, bravo, I applaud you
:clap:

Please share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination and I want as many people to see it as possible. 
I know people will have various opinions about this. Voice them as you please, but politics shouldn't meddle with art. This isn't fair. This isn't right. You can't deny me service because some politician says so.

Edit: feb 17th: There's a change.org petition now too! Please help us sign it. We made a difference, we made dA staff respond, let's take it one step more please! We can make a difference!
www.change.org/p/the-people-fo…

staff response:
comments.deviantart.com/1/7310…


Edit #2: for all of you saying dA is abiding the regulations, please read this:
Untitled by Mythiril

evidence!
comments.deviantart.com/1/7310…
the sanctions are a bullshit excuse

Edit 3: For all of you going US regulations, no they aren't: please see here


i have another link for you www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/dat…

It shows without a doubt that it has nothing to do with US sanctions



especially this part:

The Israeli Trading with the Enemy Ordinance - 1939 (the “Ordinance”) prohibits any Israeli person from trading goods with enemy countries or with the residents of enemy countries. The Israeli Ministry of Finance, which is responsible for implementing the Ordinance, has currently determined enemy countries to be Iran, Lebanon and Syria (“Israeli Sanctioned Countries”). The Ordinance was enacted in 1939 and does not expressly address online services. We therefore cannot state with certainty how the provisions of the Ordinance apply to the type of services that we provide.

Lebanon is the only Israeli Sanctioned Country that is not also a U.S. Sanctioned Country. We have ceased providing services to users with a GEOIP address in a U.S. Sanctioned Country. The number of users and premium subscribers that we have in Lebanon is not material to our business, however, if we stop providing services in Lebanon, it may decrease the number of our current and future subscribers from other countries, particularly in the Middle East, who may cease using our services in protest to us blocking accounts in Israeli Sanctioned Countries.
In addition, if it is determined by a competent court that sanctions under the Ordinance cover the type of services that we provide, we, our officers and employees may be subject to criminal and/or civil actions. We believe that our initiation of voluntary discussions with the Israeli Ministry of Finance may reduce such exposure, but any liability to which we are subject to could adversely affect our personnel, brand and reputation.




ANYWAY, the story:

So, deviantART greets you with its regular:

The World's Largest Art Gallery In Your Hand. DeviantArt is the largest online social community for artists and art enthusiasts, allowing people to connect through the creation and sharing of art. We entertain, inspire, and empower the artist in all of us.

Except nope, you only empower a selected few, but ban others under the claim of 'obeying laws' all of a sudden.

So, whenever I try login to deviantArt, this is what i see:



Untitled by Mythiril




all good so far, yeah?

Untitled by Mythiril

Nope bitch, I am forbidden from accessing the site.

Why, you might ask? Why would someone who has a reputation of being helpful and kind to people, someone who hosted projects and helped around be banned from site? What on earth did you do Julian?

Simply, I live in a country that isn't approved by America.

I live in Syria, yeah, that shithole where civil war and ISIS are happening.

Proof I'm geobanned?
sure thing

Untitled by Mythiril


^ notice the date? march 2017 -solidmars- is my old username here if you're unfamiliar with it -also my phone/laptop were already logged in so i didn't notice the issue , but i noticed on my pc cuz i bought a new machine at that time

and this is the reply:

Untitled by Mythiril

Glorious, isn't it?

"We have to comply with regulations"

Oh yeah? after 8 years of having sanctions imposed on us? Now you want to comply?
Bigger sites, such as Patreon, Artstation, tumblr, facebook, youtube, google, instagram, etc etc has no issues what so ever.
Even fucking patreon is fine!

The hypocrisy knows no limit here, it seems.

Nine years of war couldn’t break us. We still live, breathe and survive day by day. I’m not a soldier, mind you, nor a hero. I didn’t fight in battles, I didn’t lose like others have lost. I’m a normal individual who’s unfortunate enough to be living under war, but also lucky enough not to be driven out of home nor get killed by a stray bullet.

I know lots of you think of war as game, or a battlefield for glory. It’s not.

It doesn’t matter who you are, you’re only worth a bullet.

My name is Julian, I’m a Syrian artist. The war in Syria started when I was 17 years old and it’s been ongoing since with no end in sight. Life is rough, we struggle to meet ends meet these days. A lot of things changed, infrastructure is half gone, basic everyday needs like electricity is near gone as well, but we’re alive ya know?

Everyone keeps telling me I should be living the best years of my life right now, except, I fail to see that. War has robbed me from what was supposed to be the years where I mature and grow in peace, gain the experience that comes with going to university and meeting people from all over the country, but I feel robbed of that too.

I did grow up, different. I matured forcefully while balancing a thin line between life and death, fear, and the collapse of what I once called normal life. I’ve seen people die, I lost friends, family, I went days waking up in bunkers and dreading the thought of going outside, more days went without electricity nor water because the infrastructure was blown to bit, and some other days only a few meters separated me from death.

But here I am, a university graduate, proud of the bachelor degree I hold. I made it despite all the odds and danger, I survived. But war eventually took a toll. There’s only so much a person can take before the world comes crashing down, and then there was despair. I didn’t know how to handle it, everyone was in the same hell as me, but then I picked up my pen.

I coped through art. For years, it has been my everything. I grew up as an artist too when I joined the DeviantArt community. I met artists from all over the world and shared their experience and called the site my home. Yes, you know DeviantArt? That big international platform for everyone from all over the world? 

For 8 years, I posted my work on deviantart, before the war was even a thing, shared the good and the bad, received support, encouragement, love, met some of my best friends there. A lot of people had so much impact on my life and helped me survive.

That is gone now too.

As of march 1st, 2017, DeviantArt banned Syria from accessing its services entirely. All geoIPs in the country have been blocked from entering the site, under the justification of USA sanctions over Syria.But that was an easy thing to pass around, just needed a VPN to pass the login authentication and you're good and it was alright, I continued to function on site normally. But as of February 12th 2018, dA has changed the authentication and now unless I am tunneling through a VPN the entire time, I am geobanned from site for good because I live in a warzone.

Not so international anymore ha?

Yes, I can go somewhere else, but this isn't right!


I am not the only one affected, there are others. I am speaking out. I refuse to be the scapegoat of this mad politics and mad war.

Fuck you big time DeviantArt.
Fuck your discrimination

This is ART damn you, not some politics playground



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Where I talk how I got GEOBANNED from site because I live in Syria. Please share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination. I refuse to be silenced by some shitty politics.

well dA forced a mature content over this, what do you know? here's a backup version for viewing off site:
backup

backup Please share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination and I want as many people to see it as possible.  I know people will have various opinions about this. Voice them as you please, but politics shouldn't meddle with art. This isn't fair. This isn't right. You can't deny me service because some politician says so.
lease share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination and I want as many people to see it as possible.  I know people will have various opinions about this. Voice them as you please, but politics shouldn't meddle with art. This isn't fair. This isn't right. You can't deny me service because some politician says so.
Edit: feb 17th: There's a change.org petition now too! Please help us sign it. We made a difference, we made
backup Please share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination and I want as many people to see it as possible.  I know people will have various opinions about this. Voice them as you please, but politics shouldn't meddle with art. This isn't fair. This isn't right. You can't deny me service because some politician says so.
lease share this, every bit of support counts. I am probably getting my account perma banned after this journal, but I am voicing this discrimination and I want as many people to see it as possible.  I know people will have various opinions about this. Voice them as you please, but politics shouldn't meddle with art. This isn't fair. This isn't right. You can't deny me service because some politician says so.
Edit: feb 17th: There's a change.org petition now too! Please help us sign it. We made a difference, we made


almost 9pm annnd mature content was removed, okay then. keeping these in case anyway :meow:

it was like this in the morning:
28309694 1698534866879735 2021532135 O by Mythiril  
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:icontnynfox:
Tnynfox Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2018  Student General Artist
Deviantart has been deeply cowardly in both starting and (mostly) ending its part in the sanctions. This scares me how cowardly they are. At least we did it.
Meanwhile Deviantart allows the Tunisian ISIS supporter BaghdadiAdnani to stay here and post propaganda, while Twitter allows official North Korea propaganda accounts.
Previously Apple reversed their ban on Iranian apps.

With new US sanctions on Iran, let's hope to reverse any cowardice that happens.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah
i agree with that
it's hilarious how cowardly they are. 
luckily we did win this one, but they didn't change their ways
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:icontnynfox:
Tnynfox Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2018  Student General Artist
Sanctions Compliance Cringe Compilation! Code.Google, Adobe, Nvidia all do the Geoblock fetish and much more! Cue the utter absence of Patreon in any part of the Sanctions Compliance at all! Let's hope we run out of material for that cringe compilation.

Although a cowardly management is a pretty serious problem - what if someone pressured Deviantart to censor content they merely found offensive, or a user they had a personal grudge against? At the same time Deviantart allows borderline porn and Daesh supporters that don't get front page attention. But they're working - a porn profile I reported once was gone next morning. Maybe we'll get better management that isn't as cowardly.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
dA changed the reporting system. Now you require mass reporting like facebook or twitter to get their automated bot to do anything, meaning if someone runs a script that repeatedly reports someone even if it's false, you'll get your content censored. 

and yeah geoblocking fetish. You'd think they learned after the shitstorm this journal caused, but nope. They went ahead and geoblocked cuba 
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:iconbrandoch-daha:
Brandoch-Daha Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
DA should stand up for people. These types of sites (and my old, now defunct music site, ACID Planet) do nothing except bring the people of the world together. They should take a stand and insist on doing the right thing in all things. I meet more interesting people from all countries and walks of life here on these sites, which only creates a global community. 
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
well, i won after i caused a pr nightmare, so there's that :shrug: 
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:iconbrandoch-daha:
Brandoch-Daha Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, well, good for you, for sure. The rest of us forget how lucky we are to have lived untouched by the mess that some of the world is in. And it was decent of them to listen, too, I suppose, because it's easy to turn a blind eye.
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ArtCendrum Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While, according to my own and personal opinion and judgment, you've been a little too unkind to the staff for my taste (not that I can't understand the issues you had and the anger they caused), I do believe you should keep this up in memoriam (while of course giving credit to the staff for solving the problem, because you're treating it as a battle against them which I think is unfair. It doesn't seem to me as though the staff has "lost".)
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
you're late to the party :shrug: 
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:iconartcendrum:
ArtCendrum Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Am I? I seem to have read you kept this up because the site wasn't up yet
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
very late to the party. 
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:iconartcendrum:
ArtCendrum Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I mean, I saw the upload dates, but you hadn't stated your stance about keeping it up anywhere else that I could see, so I just thought you forgot about it
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Get2daChoppa Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Like, so late to the party that even the janitor has been long gone.
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:iconartcendrum:
ArtCendrum Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That comment is more than a month old. Late to the party, ain't ya.
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:iconsenshistock:
SenshiStock Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
WOW I am just hearing about this now! I am so happy DA was able to make it so you and others can come back. 
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you
and yes, i am glad i won
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:iconxx-nellathefox-xx:
Xx-NellaTheFox-xX Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2018  Student Digital Artist
man that sucks >:/
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah but we won, so there's that
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:iconxx-nellathefox-xx:
Xx-NellaTheFox-xX Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I know we won and i am glad O(≧∇≦)O
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:iconmichawolf13:
Michawolf13 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
:heart:
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
:heart: 
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:iconkharmascribbles:
KharmaScribbles Featured By Owner Edited Mar 6, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
A long time ago, Pandora stopped streaming music to Canadians, no matter if you had a premium account or number of years using the service.. All of a sudden one day, pooof, no more music for me.

Music is my life.  I listen basically 24/7.  I'm just trying to say here, that music is super important to me personally.  I could care less about movies or TV, to me, music is my everything. 

I wrote an email to the administrators and they explained in more detail as to why, licensing restrictions etc.  And explained that perhaps in the future they could offer their service to Canada.. but in no way were they able to allow me to continue listening to music on Pandora dot com.

What did I do?

Accepted it and moved on to a service that would stream to Canadians.

Move on. Find a proxy, another service, or move residence. [shrugs]
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
a long time ago, human beings learned how to read

what did i do?
i learned how to read. 

read. look at the comments, look at the journal. We won, they apologized, revoked the ban and openly admitted that they went overboard. 
comments.deviantart.com/1/7310…
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:iconkittydolaneddsworld:
KittyDolanEddsworld Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
So, why the heck is it banned again (even tho I live in the US)?EDD INTENSIFIES 
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
eh? 
please reread the journal 
everything in it 
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:iconpaws-and-art:
Paws-and-Art Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2018  Student Filmographer
will you be ok?
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jojo22 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Such great news.  Thanks to you and dA staff for working through this to make a change for those artists.  Let's hope the sanctions are lifted on all of these countries, as this economic tool is such a double edged sword, and non-discriminatory in the harm it causes.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you, glad to see it resolved :huggle:
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:iconvenelebat:
Venelebat Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Um I would like to mention that this has happened to me on occasion for no reason and I am American.  Not saying It hasn't happened to you for a reason.  I don't know why it happens.  But if it's happening to me at random once in a while, maybe it's about a little more than Syria.  Please don't take offense ^^
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
oh no.
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:iconvenelebat:
Venelebat Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I was able to get back in after a while (obviously I'm here lol) but I just assumed it was a glitch and moved on.  It might happen more often if I were to login every day but I keep my account logged in constantly.  I've maybe been kicked out once or twice while logged in though.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
smart!
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:iconvenelebat:
Venelebat Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh.  Thanks ^u^
Nice icon btw. :)
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:iconvenelebat:
Venelebat Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Um... are you ok?
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:icontotalcrits:
TotalCrits Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2018  Student Digital Artist
I really hope you're not being serious with these replies, but please... read the Journal. You'll see that this is more than just a simple "error".
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
ikr :lol:
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:iconingodzhandz:
InGodzHandz Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
This is horrible!
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
it's fine, we won :)
victory journal: Si vis Pacem
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:iconingodzhandz:
InGodzHandz Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
YAY!!!
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:iconfreddy-deathbear:
FREDDY-DEATHBEAR Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Salutations to you, good person.

No other words could be said, but I admire your bravery and courage. Discrimination in this site shouldn't be here - as well as any other rulings that correlate like so - since, well, this IS an art site.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you, and we have officially won today :)
victory journal if you'd like: Si vis Pacem
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:icontrollinandrollin:
trollinandrollin Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2018
All this over a pipe line... Wish all the best for Syria.
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:iconmythiril:
Mythiril Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you
i know, it's shitty on any level, but at least we won
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