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Welcome to yet another issue of CRPhotography's Photography Discussions! In this series, we aim to promote a specific discussion topic for the month. We want to hear your opinions, engage with you about them, and see you engage with each other as well! So here's a new topic of this series:

Selling your work:

  • Do you sell prints of your photography? If so, where? For how much?
  • Have you ever sold any of your photography to a business/company?
  • Another popular way of selling your work is calendars, have you ever tried that?
  • If you have not yet made any profit off your photography, why do you think that is?
  • Do you have the desire to ever sell your work?

P.S: During the 3rd week of August, projecteducate is hosting another Art in the Professions week. If you photography is your career, or you've made significant profit from it, please send us a note to pitch an article idea that shares some advice and insight to the community on how this can be done!

Last month we discussed a range of topics around photographing people!

thespook said:

Do you photograph people? If yes, why? If no, why not?
Yes. I practice street photography when I can, and I take photos of family.

Whatever level you're at, or what your favourite subject is, taking photos of family is a rewarding pursuit. For one thing, it's good practice, but you're also contributing more than simple snapshots to your family history. It's a win-win :) (Smile)

How do you find people willing to be photographed, or models to work with?
For street photography, most of the time there's no prior permission or interaction, but a few times I've asked if I could take someone's portrait. In those cases, I make it clear I'm out taking photos, hopefully strike up a conversation, and then as we part ways ask if I could take their portrait.

What do you find most challenging about photographing people?
With family if they notice I'm taking their picture they tend to shy away from the camera, or give me the cheesy grin. So for me the challenge is in using banter to get something else out of them, something more genuine.

With street the challenge is reacting fast enough to spontaneous opportunities. It's one thing to just pull up the camera and take a snapshot, but to take the shot I really want it usually means I have to make some sudden movements when I already feel like I'm drawing a lot of attention to myself.

Do you ever photograph people without them knowing it?
For both street and family, yeah, it's almost a requirement LOL

Do you think a model must be beautiful for you to take a beautiful photo?
No, and to think otherwise is to deny the creative control of the photographer, which is absurd.

TFG1001 said:

Do you photograph people? If yes, why? If no, why not?
    I do like photographing people, is the communication with the photographer and the model that settles the environment. Example, you're meeting a new model, someone who might be starting off, is nervous, as the photographer, you welcome them and make them feel at ease, give them a boost and make them feel welcome. This also eases the model's confidence for the photo-shoot. Even when meeting a model who's modelled for loads of brands and is popular, they have that confidence already, but the photographer has a vision, an idea of what they expect from the photo-shoot and has to take control to complete the task and so communication with the model, even gathering ideas is a plus, maybe picking up an idea that hasn't been thought of. To me, I do have trouble communicating having a learning disability, but I'd like to improve on this entirely.

How do you find people willing to be photographed, or models to work with?

Sometimes the model wants photographs for their projects, this being my example, and so wanted to pose in certain ways, and so my suggestions weren't accepted 50% of the time. The model and photographer both communicate if there are any issues or the model doesn't want to post in a certain way, and depending on the attitude, this can lead to problems on set. Im not too sure or confident on this topic but I believe communication is the top priority.

What do you find most challenging about photographing people?

Posing is the top challenge. Compared to my passion photographing action figures and still life, there is not a lot of options to get them to pose and you need the right timing for on location, compared to a model person who has a lot of facial expressions, body language, posing, styles and clothing, all these to be considered, its a lengthy process but it allows more ideas to come forward. But with all these options and ideas, getting it right is the key.

Do you ever photograph people without them knowing it?

I know a lot of photographers do, one being a photographer who used a flash to take photographs of people being natural in the street, but the concern is what if he photographed someone who suffers from epilepsy? and suffer from fits from flashes? Of course photographing someone would need permission, I'd always like to confirm they'd like their photo taken before I even consider raising my camera, but getting their natural reactions and faces can be a project for some.

Do you think a model must be beautiful for you to take a beautiful photo?

Definitely not! No model needs to be beautiful. Anyone can be a model if they choose to be! Everyone has something special. If we only focused on photographing beautiful people, then what is the point? Go to Google and even search Model, yes loads of them are pretty models, but there are models out who have shown their surgery scars, their disabilities, even a special baby girl with Down's syndrome has broken the world with her smile. No model is beautiful, we see them as beautiful. Makeup applied before the photo-shoot, but I'd prefer natural looks. It shows the truth and the real person, no the amount of make up used.

Do you photograph people? If yes, why? If no, why not?

Sometimes. Preferred candid shot though it can be quite difficult. Capturing people when they are in a relax natural state without the mask or facade they normally wear. Their laughter, smiles, interactions with one another seems more natural. For instance an elderly women pushing a load of stuff on a trolley, just simply to tell a story. What her life like? Her situation, her difficulties.
And sometimes just blurring out the people walking so as to reflects some life in an landscape. Like leaving an impression from that space. Usually attempts to show that with every passing moment, there's movement and it's not just static.

How do you find people willing to be photographed, or models to work with?

A simple conversation asking for their consent when taking a close shot. They usually are agreeable. If not, then just move on to the next thing. Never did with a model though, usually just tourists or somebody who loves being in front of the camera.

What do you find most challenging about photographing people?

Finding the right moment for them to make that gestures or expressions that comes naturally otherwise. Something that tells a simple story when viewed on the photo.

Do you ever photograph people without them knowing it?

Only with people I know, like they are playing in a gig and were performing, they are in their zones and that be a great time to take a photo. I do let them see it afterwards and they would comment about their own performance. Although sometimes through accidental photography. Such as taking in a shot of the landscape and someone happens to be in it and they ends up adding in to the charm.
The photo would be incomplete without them in it.

Do you think a model must be beautiful for you to take a beautiful photo?

Not necessarily. In my own view.The one that makes a photo beautiful is the photographer themselves. With a good photographer, even an ordinary looking person will look stunning.
Having said that, I've never taken a photo of a model before but if I were to, I would not go for just superficial beauty. For me personally, it's the charismatic nature of the model that she/he are able to bring out in real life that is beautiful. I guess it's pretty subjective on the idea of beauty but if the beauty within could be to shown in a photo then I'll consider that as a successful shot in depicting true beauty.

Let's talk about making profit off your photography!
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afungshui Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2016  Student General Artist
Really interesting piece. Starting to sell my work and make some money off of photography is the one major next step for me if I decide to pursue photography professionally. I've done some event coverage so hopefully my portfolio will be large enough to take that step soon.
Dzulkifli27 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2016
A friend once approached me in 1999 to ask for a favor in taking some photograph of his wife's art exhibition event. At that time, I didn't realized that he was actually commissioning me to cover for the event cos I'm only still a student. He just went on and told me to just take a couple of shot of the event and that's it. So I went there and saw another photographer who I assumed is their official photographer for the event and before I knew it, I started to take some photos but I wasn't thinking like a professional back then but more like an enthusiast.
It wasn't until much later that I found out that the official photographer had a some sort of malfunction with his camera and not even one of his film was developed. It all turns out blank, so all that left is only my film. My friend were understandably quite frantic and kept asking for my photos cos apparently they need the photos to be included in their annual publication magazine. I pass it to him soon as I could and got paid me a few hundreds dollars for it. Then it hits me that was my very first time being commission for a photo shoot albeit kinda of a strange one. 
TFG1001 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2016  Student General Artist
In College, we did a project to raise money for when an Earthquake happened across the world, and so we set up a fund website, and donated one of our photographs, each person in my class, donated a photograph and all funds went to help towards the fund. I am currently set to be paid to do a childrens' event with Santa in a grotto for Christmas for all the children visiting. I hope this will boost my portfolio I am building. 
PaMonk Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2016  Professional Artist
I never sold any photographs before I am still new and need more learning before ever selling any but
this is all very Interesting Thanks for sharing all this information.:D
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