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DISCLAIMER: First of all, I know there are some people who get grumpy when they see a Confederate flag, but I hope this won't happen here. Some people see it as a symbol of racism and bigotry, while others, like myself, understand that it is simply a piece of history. A flag representing a nation that is gone, nothing more, not unlike the flag of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, absorbed into Italy at about the same time as the Confederate flag was flying. This being the case, I don't want this image to be a place to make either racist comments or anti-Southern comments.

Now, as for the picture itself. It's just a spot of image manipulation I did purely for my own amusement. I took an Italian WWII propaganda poster and turned it into a fictional Confederate propaganda poster. I enjoy fiddling with alternate history ideas, and one fun one is to speculate how history would have gone had the Confederacy survived. Assuming WWII happened, how would it differ? That idea was sort of the inspiration for this.
The original poster was put out in late 1942 or early 1943 by Mussolini's government in response to Italy's ejection from Libya at the hands of the British. Even as his empire was crumbling, he had hopes of restoring it at a later date, and the original Italian caption was "Ritorneremo!" which means, in English, "We will return!" It seemed an appropriate phrase to keep since we always say here in the American South, "The South will rise again!" Of course that's utter nonsense, but still fun to throw around!

Anyway, I used Paint.NET and Ultimate Paint to create the image, and it took me the better part of an afternoon. If anyone wants to use it, go right ahead. I really have no artistic claim here, but I would appreciate a little credit if it is used, and please notify me so I can be in on/aware of what it is being used for!
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desca97's avatar
desca97|Hobbyist General Artist
fount?
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oldman1946's avatar
Well done and well said
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SaintAndrewsCross's avatar
Love your work, beautiful piece of art!
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Mornauto's avatar
Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you; I've been enjoying your recent postings as well!
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SteveEarlJones's avatar
You used the historically accurate Confederate national flag. Props dude, really w00t!  
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Mornauto's avatar
Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks! That's one reason I picked an Italian poster as the starting point. The similar red bar on the end and white in the middle made for a fairly smooth transformation.
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ACommissionReviewer's avatar
You realize something can both be a piece of history AND a symbol of racism right? One doesn't negate the other. 
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EnforcerWolf's avatar
As a person with Southern as well as Northern roots, I find this piece of art to be quite fascinating. Nice manip job.
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Mornauto's avatar
Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks very much.  I too have family on both sides of the old Mason-Dixon line, and I enjoy exploring the heritage of both.
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AlekVulken94's avatar
AlekVulken94|Hobbyist Digital Artist
I find that uniform actually agreeable to the proposed Southern Army.
Butternut and/or dark gray slacks.

Well done.
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Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Thanks! I can't really take too much credit; other than the flag and the text, I left everything the way it was on the original Italian poster. I do agree though, that color would fit a modernized Confederate army well.
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godofwarlover's avatar
What side? Axis or Allies?
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Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
I guess I hadn't really specified for this picture.  I tend to think the Confederacy, if it managed to hold together that long, would probably have such close ties to Britain or the US or both that it would support them in a WWII type of scenario.  The most plausible projection I've ever seen, (again resting on the assumption that the CSA maintains its territorial integrity) is that it would become almost a British protectorate due to its economic situation.  The guy who made the Confederate mods for Hearts of Iron 2 and Hearts of Iron 3 espoused that view, and I thought his mods and the alternate history that went with them were quite good.
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godofwarlover's avatar
Well, I was just asking because in some alternate history stories the CSA becomes a version of Nazi Germany
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Mornauto's avatar
Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Ah yes, I've seen that route too.  I tend to think the closest historical analogy for them would be South Africa - there was some sympathy to the Nazi cause on account of racial politics, but ultimately they stayed loyal to the British empire.
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MikeBennett1980|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The purpose of history is to learn from the mistakes of the past, so we can do better in the future. Censorship of anything is a slippery slope.


Nice work!
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Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Agreed, and thank you!
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MikeBennett1980|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My pleasure! :)
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gumballdudley's avatar
I love the bloody banned confederate flag at least it has a red stripe to make it another flag
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MRWHITE81's avatar

this is cool

this reminds me of the timeline 191/ southern victory series by harry turtledove

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ChocolateQuill's avatar
I think it is definitely a symbol of history, but that the bigotry and stupidity surrounding it today has made it horrible for me to endure. And, even though it was a symbol of history, that doesn't mean it should be proudly displayed in casual situation. 

This is really interesting o^o
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Mornauto|Hobbyist Photographer
Unfortunately, I think you're probably right.  The actual historical meaning of things is often less important that the way people choose to remember them and use them as symbols.  There's nothing inherently wrong with the Confederate flag any more than any other national flag, but of course it gets used by modern bigots, which gives it a meaning that it never had historically.  That's one reason I prefer this version of the national flag; the racists usually use the simple battle flag, and this is a bit different.  I guess the whole situation is sort of like the problem with the swastika.  For centuries, it held meaning as a symbol of benevolence in various Asian cultures, but that all changed when the Nazis randomly adopted it as their symbol.  Now no one can use it because it's been stygmatized.
Anyway, I could go on, but the moral of the story is that it's all very silly and the problems arise from ignorance.  Glad you find it thought provoking, and I welcome your input!
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ChocolateQuill's avatar
I think the issue between the North and South is something that should be examined--but I'm curious to see what you think of it being used as a 'national symbol' of the south, today?

I personally have a problem with this, for several reasons but I want to hear your opinion first o3o
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