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Things I Wish Boomers Would Understand

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I’m publishing this on Labor Day, the day that was originally meant to be a day for workers to rest and allow the entire country to celebrate them, but has unfortunately become a day only for the wealthy to have off, and the people the holiday was created to celebrate have to serve the wealthy.

Things I Wish Boomers Would Understand

This is not meant to be hating on all Baby Boomers. I know plenty who worked hard to get where they are, and this is in no way saying they don’t deserve what they have. It was definitely easier for them to get what they have now, but at the end of the day, sure, they did work for it. But I am extremely tired of all the stereotypes about younger people (especially ages 20-30.) I know there has been plenty written on the subject, and I honestly don’t expect many Boomers to read this, but if you do, please read it with an open mind.


I would like to mention that I used to hold opinions similar to those being addressed in this essay. I used to think that working hard at your first job, getting good grades, getting a degree in something you were good at, etc., would give people the ability to succeed in life. I used to think it was possible for almost everyone to move out right after college, that your first job would be considered good experience for other employers, that it was possible to enter the workforce and climb the chain, etc. I may have posted comments on this website pertaining to as much, because I was ignorant about this for a very long time. I apologize for those opinions and whatever comments I made based on those opinions. I was wrong.

I’ll admit that I’m one of the lucky ones; I finally have a job related to the career field I studied for (granted I am much older than most of our parents were at my stage in life), I rent my own place at an affordable cost and it’s not trash, and I have a reliable car. But I can also see the vast difference in what my parents expected of me based on their experience with the job market, and I can see the struggles other people go through. I can also look at the numbers and see the cold hard truth of the matter at hand. My parents were married, had a house, and they were about to start a family at my age. I’m still dating, have a tiny apartment, a hamster, and I’m hoping my ovaries will last long enough for me to have a baby someday.


My autism also compounds the issue when it comes to job searching. Even though I’m able to live comfortably on my own, I actually have a very tiny income. The only reason I’m doing okay is because I’m pretty good at budgeting. All of my neurotypical friends are doing a good bit better than I am, with the exception of the ones who are hooked on drugs, started having babies before they had any career, or are making other poor life decisions. But even then, only one of my neurotypical friends is doing as well as her parents did at our age. More about life with autism here:

https://www.deviantart.com/monocerosarts/art/Life-with-Autism-Pt-1-816701623

https://www.deviantart.com/monocerosarts/art/Life-with-Autism-Pt-2-834644916


At the end of this post, I’m collecting a list of comments made by people who think struggling people need to just “pull themselves up by their bootstraps.” I’ve only just started keeping this list, so feel free to send me comments that people have made to you!




It’s time for you to accept that you were richer than we are.

Our current economy is one of rising costs and stagnating wage growth, and has been for decades. It has reached the point where it’s no longer sustainable, and our middle class is shrinking rapidly.


When my parents married at ages 22 and 23, they each made over $25/hr. They had a combined income of over $50/hr. Their first apartment cost them $450/month, utilities included. Today, over 30 years later, young people fight and struggle to find jobs that pay even just $15/hr, even those who graduate with the same degrees my parents had. And on top of that, apartments cost on average over $1,000/month. We have less than half the money our parents had, and our cost of living has more than doubled.


Boomers like to claim that millennials and the following generations want ridiculous amounts of pay for no work. They claim we’re bad at budgeting. They claim we’re lazy. They claim they had to work as hard as we do to have houses, apartments, food, cars, etc.


I’m sorry, but the numbers don’t add up to support that claim. Allow me to enlighten you.

Back in the day, minimum wage was the minimum amount required to live. Boomers and people in their 40s will try to tell you it was only ever meant to be entry pay for teenagers like it is now, but that’s just not true. That doesn’t make sense with what Boomers were able to do on minimum wage compared to how far minimum wage will stretch today.


When the cost of living and inflation are taken into account, what Boomers made on minimum wage ($2 - $5 then, compared to $7.25 today) would translate to about $35/hr today. Almost all of us now make less than $20/hr today, even when we are over a decade into our careers, and even when those careers are in STEM fields, construction, etc. Imagine what today’s young people could achieve if teenagers started their first jobs at $35/hr! Teenagers could pay for college (like Boomers were able to, funnily enough.) Considering what today’s young people are able to do with barely a fraction of the money that Boomers had, why didn’t Boomers achieve more?


Rent in the 1970s cost about $70 - $90/month for an average apartment, depending where you lived (https://www.ranker.com/list/rent-prices-in-1970-compared-to-today-by-state/melissa-sartore?page=2). Larger apartments cost a little over $100/month. Minimum wage was $2.10. Multiply $2.10 by 40, and it comes out to $84. That doesn’t sound like much to earn in one week to our modern sensibilities, but then you realize that boomers could pay their month’s rent with one week’s worth of pay on MINIMUM WAGE. Even when some was removed to cover income tax, Boomers could still live independently and comfortably on minimum wage. Imagine being able to have rent covered with one week’s worth of pay, and the remaining 3-4 weeks of pay would cover everything else, which in my experience comes out to a lot less than rent does, provided you don’t have a medical emergency (which, funnily enough, was also largely covered by taxes in Boomers’ days).


Minimum wage Boomers were rolling in dough. To think that there were Boomers who had trouble making ends meet when they still had no children and had this much money flowing in goes to show how terrible they were at budgeting. And again, this was the MINIMUM WAGE.

If this is what minimum wage got them, it’s no wonder they could move out of their parents’ houses immediately upon finishing school, get married, have three kids by age 30, their wives could stay home, and they could have a decent retirement savings by age 40 and be set to retire by age 60. I’m happy for you that things were so great back then, Boomers, but you need to admit that things aren’t like that anymore. It’s time for you to grow up and get out of your happy little money bubble.


I came across a kind older gentleman who acknowledged this problem instead of telling me I just needed to budget better, stop whining, etc. Here is what he said to me:

“In the 60’s 1967-8-9 we paid $100 per month for a huge 3-bedroom apartment with a dining room and balcony. I made $1.35 per hour. Today’s min wage is what $7.50? I am almost positive that apartment is a h**** of a lot more than $500 a month … in Grand Rapids, MI… utilities were included …”


$500/month for a 3-bedroom apartment with a dining room and a balcony? Yeah no, try quadrupling that price.


Today, minimum wage is $7.25. This man thought we get paid more than we actually do. He was close, though! It’s been $7.25 for over a decade. Average rent in 2021 was $1,600+ for a studio flat apartment (all one room, no bedroom). $7.25 multiplied by 40 comes out to $290. That’s nowhere near enough to cover rent.


In order to make the same amount of money Boomers did, our work week would come out to about 220 hours. A week only has 168 hours. Even if we didn’t sleep, eat, or poop, and we did nothing but work, it would be physically impossible for us to have what you had.


But sure, we just don’t know how to budget.

Even just ten years has taken away so much potential for today’s young people.

Even just in the early 2000s, the insanity of employers demanding 3 or more years of experience for entry-level jobs was not nearly as bad as it is now. It was almost unseen. You needed experience for higher-up jobs of course, but not entry-level. This phenomenon is new, and it needs to stop immediately before most young families end up on food stamps and employers complain further about not being able to find workers. Our ears hurt from your whining. Just hire and train us already!


Another thing that emerging workers in the 2000s didn’t have to deal with was the cost of living that today’s young people have to deal with. For example: rent has doubled in cost over the past decade. Ten years ago, average rent for a one-bedroom apartment was around $800/month, as opposed to today’s rent of about $1,600 for the same apartment (https://www.in2013dollars.com/Rent-of-primary-residence/price-inflation). Full time at $7.25 gets you about $870/month (once you removed about 25% for taxes). Even just ten years ago, people on minimum wage could just cover rent if every dollar they earned working full time went to rent. Of course, that didn’t leave them money for groceries, electricity, water, car insurance, gas, or healthcare, so even then it wasn’t a livable wage. People ten years ago still couldn’t live off of minimum wage in most cases, but it did go farther than it does today. People who are in their thirties today could have lived off of working two minimum wage jobs, one full time and one part time. They would have had to work about 50-60 hours. Yeah, it was still a heck of a lot more work than what their parents had to do, but it still could have been done if they were up to it. Chances are at least one of those jobs would have been above minimum wage. That’s why young people today hear stories from older friends and family members about how that cousin in their thirties had a nice apartment by working at the grocery store for a few hours each week in the evenings after getting off of their “real job.” Young people today are shamed because if your cousin who is only ten years older than you could do it, so can you! Actually, no, we can’t. Not without working 80-90 hours each week.


The rising cost of living could qualify as price-gouging.


Price gouging is defined as: an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited (dictionary.com.) It’s an illegal practice that pops up frequently after disasters such as floods and snowstorms. For example: after a flood, bottled water is in high demand, so sellers will naturally want to charge more for it, but because people need the water to survive, it’s illegal to charge above a certain amount for it. The same went for hand sanitizer and toilet paper during the beginnings of the COVID-19 frenzy.


The demand for goods such as food, car insurance, health insurance, apartments, and houses is high because people literally cannot live without them. It’s straight-up illegal to not have car insurance if you want to have a car, and the government will fine you for not having health insurance. We need food to stay alive (you’d think that would be obvious, but apparently it’s not). We need apartments and houses because we need places to live. It’s not legal or safe to sleep on benches in parks or under bridges, and in many places, it’s even illegal to sleep in your car. We cannot live without these things. So why is it legal for their prices to rise so much?

Our US healthcare system is a monopoly. We have no choice but to go to one or two different hospitals (assuming we have even one hospital in town), and they charge $20 for a pill of Tylenol that they paid maybe 15 cents for. Blankets can cost upwards of $50 and we don’t even get to take them home. It costs an extra $40 to hold your baby after giving birth.


I once had minor toe surgery, and they had to do a pregnancy test because I was between the ages of 12 and 50 and still had a uterus. It was a urine pregnancy test like you can get from the grocery store for less than $5. The hospital charged me $700 to do it. That's a $700 a man will never have to pay. And on top of that, I was a virgin! But they would not perform any operation on me without having first done a pregnancy test.


Hospitals don’t ask you if you want X,Y, or Z or tell you how much they’ll cost. They just do it and then charge you later. The hospital in my town dug a tunnel underneath the road to connect the hospital to the out-patient testing center across the street so that they can charge hospital rates for simple family physician procedures. It cost my father over $2,500 to get a simple blood test in those offices because they built that tunnel. How is this legal?


The way health insurance works is that you pay a company a lot of money each month. Then, if you need them to do their job that you pay them to do, you have to pay a bunch more money, and it’s possible your insurance company may drop you. People have personally told me stories of getting hospital bills that equal hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then when insurance steps in, the hospital gives them a “discount” that equals exactly what their deductible and out-of-pocket maximum is. So their insurance paid nothing, and their hospital charged them as much as they could get away with. I experienced something similar when I had my first surgery. It was a minor surgery on my pinkie toe to removed a bone spur. Before insurance, it cost about $22,000. Once insurance stepped in, the hospital dropped the price to around $2,000, and insurance paid about half. I was the piggy bank the hospital hoped to squeeze an extra $20,000 out of that they apparently didn’t need to charge in the first place. If anyone else was running this kind of scam, it would land them in jail.


There are numerous options out there that could be used individually or combined to create a whole new system. Most first-world nations use a variation of a national healthcare system, where at least basic, lifesaving healthcare is provided to all its citizens through taxes. Americans have been brainwashed to assume that countries that use such systems are socialist, that the healthcare provided is slow and poor quality, and that the taxes needed are astronomical. However, that’s just not true.

Most European countries use national healthcare systems, and their wait times are only one to two weeks longer than ours on average, and America’s healthcare system is actually slower in many cases. For example, when I needed to get an allergy test done, I had to wait over 4 months. An annual physical generally requires at least a month’s wait.

Our healthcare is not magically higher quality, either. A good example of this is the horrific fact that the U.S. has the highest infant and maternal death rate of any developed country in the world, and is even higher than many developing countries (https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state). More mothers and babies die here than anywhere else. This is the care that we sacrifice our retirements and financial security for?

Taxes needed to run a national healthcare system are also not astronomical, provided the country uses its tax money responsibly. European countries that use national healthcare actually have taxes that are roughly equal with American tax rates. In many countries, tax rates would actually be lower for much of the population. The UK uses a tax bracket system where the more you make, the more you are taxed. I personally think the doubling bracket at 50,000 pounds is too large a jump, especially if it’s a family, but I also don’t have a good grasp of what cost of living is like in the UK, and families probably get some kind of tax break if I had to guess. However, here in the US where the rich pay lower tax rates than the poor (according to the Paradise Papers), it’s no wonder old rich Boomers will defend our broken system to their dying breath.


If the idea of covering basic lifesaving care through taxes instead of funding sports, gender studies, and Planned Parenthood is too socialist for you, there is always the option of simply not allowing hospitals to charge $700 for pregnancy tests and $50 for blankets. Recognize price gouging for what it is and stop it.


I’m tired of hearing people defend this system. Medical treatment does not have to cost this much. Pregnancy tests do not cost $700.


The US is possibly the only civilized nation in the world that doesn’t offer healthcare to its citizens. Healthcare here is seen as a privilege, not a right. I understand that luxurious housing is a privilege, or fancy foods, or designer cars, but healthcare? Anyone can get a chronic illness of cancer, regardless of their economic status, but only a shrinking number of Americans have the right to receive treatment. The less-privileged are quite literally left to die. America is filled with stories of middle-class citizens who lose 20+ years of savings in 5 months to treat one spouse’s cancer. Hard-working Americans who did all the right things and have insurance are forced to refinance homes, sell cars, and give up their chance at a retirement just in the hopes of surviving cancer. Is this the nation I’m supposed to be proud of? Homeless patients are thrown out of hospitals when they can no longer pay (a practice referred to as “patient dumping”, and numerous instances can be found with a quick Google search of that term). Hospitals drop homeless people out on the streets paralyzed, mentally ill, covered in their own feces, medical tubes oozing bodily fluids, with nothing but open-backed paper hospital gowns to clothe their bodies. What civilized nation does this?


Apartment prices are most definitely price-gouging. I don’t see any other way to describe them. People need apartments to live, there is no reason for them to be this expensive. The average for a single bedroom apartment is upwards of $1,600/month. If you have, say, 200-300 apartments in one complex, the landlord rakes in a mind-boggling $480,000/month. Assuming each apartment has something like a $50 repair cost each month (that’s an average; in reality most apartments would have none and a few would have more expensive repairs), that subtracts about $15,000 from the landlord’s gross monthly income. That puts the landlord at $460,000/month. Average property insurance for landlords is currently $13,000/year (https://www.thebalancesmb.com/average-landlord-insurance-cost-4582526), which comes out to about $1,083/month. That puts landlord’s net income at about $458,917/month. These numbers are working under the assumption that the landlord offers only single-bedroom apartments in his complex, which we know in most cases is not accurate, because most apartment complexes offer one, two, and three-bedroom apartments. So in reality, landlords actually make even more money than I calculated here. Granted, I’ve never been a landlord, so there are undoubtedly small costs here and there that I haven’t factored in, but we’re talking over $450,000 a MONTH. We don’t want pools, exercise centers, or marble countertops. We just want a roof over our heads and walls that don’t leak. How many mansions each do landlords have that they need $450,000 each month to pay their bills?

Hard work pays off when hard work pays well.

One of Boomers’ favorite phrases is “hard work pays off!” It’s true to an extent. The chances of someone doing well if they don’t work hard are very, very slim. They could get lucky, but chances are a lazy person will end up in a bad place pretty quickly.


However, the truth of the matter is that working hard will not necessarily get you anywhere or anything in life, and it’s becoming more and more so. More and more young people are working their butts off all day long in terrible jobs trying desperately to climb up or to find a better job, but there are no entry-level positions in their career fields to be able to get a foot in the door, and they have no way to learn a new trade for various reasons, be it the financial cost of training, a lack of time because they’re caring for a family, or they may be physically disabled or just plain physically small and can’t work something like construction or manual labor.

When Boomers exited college, they were pretty much guaranteed at least an entry-level position in their field or a related field, or just having a degree got them an entry-level position somewhere. Boomers could hand in a blank resume with nothing but school and that supermarket or gas station job they had as a teenager, and they could get hired at the entry level. No, most did not become CEOs, but considering what minimum wage paid, if they were making more than minimum wage, even those entry-level jobs paid bank compared to what they pay now. No one here is claiming Boomers didn’t have to work to get where they are now. However, they did have job opportunities upon obtaining a degree that we do not have now.

In today’s job market, entry-level positions typically require 3+ years of experience in the field, which means almost no one entering the workforce will qualify for even an entry-level position, even if they have higher education specializing in that field. Those entry-level positions often pay something like $10/hr - $12/hr, depending on what the field is and where the job is located. The national living wage for a single person with no children at the time of me writing this is about $15/hr. A worker often won’t obtain a $15 hourly wage until they have moved up to the next level in their field, generally at 5 or more years of experience. This means that upon exiting college, today’s workers have usually over 8 years before they make a wage decent enough for them to move out of their parents’ houses, and even then they might just be scraping by. I know for a fact that the average Boomer didn’t have to deal with that. By 8 years after graduation (if we’re lucky and manage to get experience straight out of college), my generation won’t even be at where Boomers were on minimum wage.


This seems to be something which has developed more so in the past 10 years. People I talk to who are in their 30s could still find entry-level jobs 10 years ago that didn’t require 3+ years of experience, and a lot of them think younger people are lazy and just don’t want to work from the bottom up. Their entry-level jobs paid a little more than what they pay now to my knowledge, but the main difference is that they were able to get those jobs immediately and get the ball rolling on having a decent wage in the next 3 or 4 years.

To give an example: my sister works in and has a bachelor’s degree in business, communication, and administration. While job searching, she comes across numerous jobs available for $15/hr, but they all require over 10 years of experience. So a worker would need to have been established in their career for over a decade before they could earn a living wage in today’s job market. And all of this considering that Boomers made on minimum wage what would be over $30/hr today.


Does that sound like hard work paying off to you?

We aren’t anti-family.

It’s easy to think of millennials as carefree kids with no responsibilities and who still live with their parents. But those days are over. Millennials are roughly between the ages of 21-35. These are your current generation of parents. These are the people who need to birth the next generation. We have as much, or actually more, responsibilities than you do now. Your kids are mostly-independent teenagers or they have flown the nest. Your kids are millennials. We’re trying to have babies, raise toddlers, and send our kids through school while both of us have no choice but to go to work every day (including weekends) if we want to at least hit the poverty line.


Many people of younger generations have little to no hope of having a family, unless they’re willing to make their children live on the poverty line, which many of us are having to make the difficult decision to do. Our biological clocks won’t last any longer than yours did, but our skilled workers may never reach the pay your generation did even when you were at minimum wage. Our parents have one, two, perhaps even three homes, and we’re stuck paying rent on tiny one-room apartments and budgeting out whether or not we can afford spaghetti that week after working 40+ hours.


We’re entering our mid to late twenties, and we’re realizing we have maybe a decade left where it’s safe for our females to bare offspring. Our biological clocks don’t run any longer than yours do, we’ve already burned through half of the time they had on them, and most of us don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel that’ll arrive within the next 5 or 7 years to be able to have a baby. If the economy doesn’t crash, by the time we reach our mid to late 50s, we might be at the point you were at when you were in your mid 20s, but at that point it will be too late for us to have babies.

Many of us are thinking of turning to adoption in our old age, which is fantastic, but again, our income has to be about 125% of the national poverty line to qualify, and most of us actually live at or a bit below the poverty line, especially when we factor in children.


We actually do work very hard.

Older generations like to call younger generations lazy. That’s been happening since Adam and Eve had a baby. I’m not going to convince myself that me writing anything here will change that, but if I could reframe a single older person’s mind about us, it would be worth it.


Most of us actually work as hard or harder than you do, for much less payoff. Many of us are working two jobs, usually averaging 45-50 hours, sometimes totaling 60-70 hours a week, and we still barely make enough to make ends meet. We’re generally working retail and customer service where Karens verbally (and sometimes physically) attack us almost on the daily, we work in warehouses, in factories, in stocking, food service, etc. 10 and 12-hour shifts on our feet are normal to us. Most of us worked all through college, we finished college and graduated with a boatload of debt, and now once we’ve realized college was worthless because it didn’t give us experience, we’re working our retail/factory/warehouse jobs ON TOP of trying to learn a new trade. We leave our homes before dawn to clock in before the sun rises and don’t come home until close to midnight. Some of us work nightshifts. We don’t get weekends. We don’t get holidays. I had to work on Christmas Day this past year. We’re lucky if we get two days off each week, and the chances of those days being consecutive is almost impossible.


But sure, we’re the lazy ones.


No, we don’t expect to have what you have now.

We’re upset we don’t have what you had at our age.


Boomers, and even people in their mid to late 30s, are convinced that young people are entitled, whiny, and want to be handed awesome jobs for no reason. They think we’re upset because we don’t currently have what Boomers currently have. For the most part, that’s just not true. While I’m not going to sit here and pretend there aren’t spoiled brats out there who want to sit on social media and somehow get paid to do that, most of us completely understand that we have to work up from the bottom. We don’t expect to be CEOs or run a bank on our first jobs. We don’t expect to be able to buy a house with our first jobs out of college (although let’s be real: most Boomers could buy a house with their first post-college job). We have reached the point where we’re actually content to have LESS than what Boomers had at our age. Quite frankly, if the world were fair, we shouldn’t have to be content with less, but that’s the only way we’ll survive mentally.


What we do think we’re entitled to is the opportunity to start, and the right to not be shamed when we can’t start as quickly as you did. I’ve noticed that every single person who looks down on us was able to get a good start in life. That’s something that a huge, HUGE portion of us don’t have, and we’re being actively shamed for it. That’s just not fair, and you need to stop. Either help us, or stop complaining about us. Boomers created this system, so don’t complain when it doesn’t work and you need to give us an entry-level job.


Why aren’t we able to get a start in life? Take a look at the section titled: “Hard work pays off when hard work pays well.” We can’t get those entry-level positions required to start.


“This millennial generation can’t keep a job.”

Boomers and employers like to complain that millennials switch jobs too often. While this argument doesn’t make much sense seeing that Boomers held about as many jobs during their younger days as we do (https://www.qualityinfo.org/-/talking-tenure-a-look-at-generational-job-hopping), it also doesn’t take into account why a millennial might leave a job after only a few months.


While I’m not going to sit here and pretend that there aren’t young people with personality and drug problems who get into trouble, don’t show up, etc., and get fired from every job they work at, so does every generation, that doesn’t account for most of us, and most of us have pretty sensible work stories if you would take the time to listen to our point of view.


My career story is as follows: I got my first job as a teenager working at a local supermarket working part time for minimum wage. I took that job because I didn’t have a car, and my mom was willing to drive me there. I bought my first car with that job. It was boring, but nothing really bad ever happened. I did my job well and became one of their senior cashiers whom they asked to train new people. I worked there for about 5 years, after which I began work at a pet store, which paid a bit better, and I worked there for about 2 years and was promoted to a manager. I was passionate about that job, because I loved my coworkers and the animals. However, I was led to believe my manager wage would be about $2-$3 more than what I was actually paid. I worked as a manager there for a while at the painfully low wage in order to get experience, and also because I loved the job. I found out that my boss there had lied to me about asking our district manager for a higher wage for me. During that time, I researched what kinds of jobs pay well, and math, science, engineering/tech, and construction/manual labor were on top of the list. I didn’t have a degree in the first few, so I took a job in manual labor. I was harassed and bullied for the 5 months I worked there. Everything we did was timed, and because I am small and disabled, my score was consistently 0.02% of a second too slow for my boss’s standards. I watched employees get injured and continue to work while bleeding because they were so afraid of making a bad time. When my manager confronted me about my “slow” time, I told him it was because of my neurological disability (which I could show him a doctor’s diagnosis for), and he responded with “that’s insane. That’s no way to run a business!” Even after that disgusting display, I stayed with the job for almost 3 more months before they started cutting my hours to the point where I lost my health insurance. At that point, I applied to another pet store, one of the U.S.’s largest pet stores, where the starting wage for an animal care specialist was higher than the manager’s wage at the previous pet store I had worked at. While I adored working there and it was a my childhood dream to work there, at the end of the day, it was only more retail experience, and it was part time on top of that, so I still had no health care.


After about two months of working there, I came across a full time position in my career field. It started out as part-time during a probation period, after which I was told I would get a several dollar pay raise when I became full time. Even though it was a franchise and thus didn’t offer health care or benefits of any kind, I took the job, because it was the first job I’d seen in years that considered me for a position in my career field. I worked both that job and the pet store for about 3 months, and during that time, I picked up some very uncomfortable vibes from the career job. I talked to the pet store manager, and we agreed that I would work a few shifts each month in order to stay an employee there in case things went bad wrong at the career job. I started full time at the career job. It started out okay, but after about a month, it devolved. The owner had me working 55 hours a week with no overtime pay. The owner also wanted me to drive from one location to another in order to work two peoples’ jobs, which is something I didn’t sign up for when I took the job. It was not a commute from my home to my workplace, it was a drive from one workplace to another also owned by him. It was going to put several hundred miles on my car and cost me about $20 in gas every pay period. He wanted me to clock out for the almost hour-long drive and accept $5 to cover my car expenses, or I could stay clocked in and not be compensated for my car. $5 to compensate me for $20 of gas and hundreds of miles on my car, and I was not going to be paid for the time I was investing for him. I politely refused. He argued that he legally didn’t have to pay me, and I told him I legally didn’t have to work for him. But because he paid so low and couldn’t find someone to replace me, he didn’t fire me. Immediately after that, one of my coworkers told me that the owner threatened to fire him if he had to take any days off during the next 90 days. My coworker had health issues and had gone to the emergency room, and the doctor had sent a note saying that he shouldn’t work for two or three days. In response to him being in the ER, the business owner told my coworker: “you’re losing me money, and if you take off more days, you’re getting fired.” My poor coworker hobbled around on crutches against his doctor’s orders, making his health problems worse. I have been past my 90-day probation period for a while now, and I’m still waiting for the pay raise I was told I’d receive. I’m being paid less than I make at the pet store, and if I can’t get a better career job in a few months, I will probably go back to the pet store. It’s only retail and part time, but at least the pet store management is fair and kind.


Of course, I generally work several jobs at the same time, so the jobs mentioned here aren’t the full story. I’m a professional freelance illustrator, and I will take temp positions as I find them in order to make extra money to save. I've worked as a farm hand, in the shipping industry, in the tire manufacturing industry, etc. However, what’s written here is the story of my regular hourly jobs, not temporary or commission work. Boomers really didn’t work fewer jobs than my generation is. They got paid infinitely better than we do, but almost every young person goes through a period of their life where they hop from job to job a few times before they find something they settle in for 10 or more years. Millennials are no different from Boomers in that respect.


Stop putting expectations on us that you didn’t put on yourselves.




“We would never survive a war now with this millennial generation fighting for us.”

I guess you haven’t noticed, but our military is made up almost entirely of millennials.


I also seem to recall a certain war in Vietnam that Boomers got drafted into that most people in the U.S. didn’t support, and the war itself was kind of a huge flop in the end. The World Wars were different, because almost the entire nation agreed with the cause. People were signing up to fight and had to be turned away because they weren’t fit enough to fight. If there is a cause that people believe in, they’ll fight for it, no matter what generation they’re born into. As we saw with the Vietnam War, your generation is no different from ours in this respect.


On top of that, most of you guys weren’t drafted and didn’t go to war, so what place are you speaking from when you accuse us of not going to war?

No, our problem isn’t Starbucks/avocados/Netflix/[insert stereotype here]/poor budgeting skills.

Y’all couldn’t budget on $30/hr. Pull the log out of your own eye.


The last time I had something from Starbucks was over 5 years ago, and someone else bought it for me, and I don’t believe I’ve ever eaten an avocado. I don’t pay for Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, or any other streaming service. If those are the real issue, why can’t I afford a mortgage?


The whole “avocados and Starbucks” stereotype is Boomers claiming young people are struggling simply because we don’t know how to budget. I have already addressed how our minimum wage doesn’t cover squat compared to what their minimum wage covered, so their argument is quantifiably garbage. We are struggling because we aren’t being paid what they were paid, end of story.

However, to address the budgeting idea: millennials actually do a lot more budgeting than previous generations have done because we don’t have money and therefore have no choice. Millennials eat out less and buy fewer groceries than Boomers, for example (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/11/04/millennials-eating-habits-npd-group/1665923/). We’re actually eating less than older generations because we can’t afford to eat. When the cost of living and inflation are taken into account, what Boomers made on minimum wage ($2 - $6) would translate to about $35/hr today. Almost all of us now make less than $20/hr today, even when we are over a decade into our careers, and even when those careers are in STEM fields, construction, etc. Imagine what today’s young people could achieve if teenagers started their first jobs at $35/hr! Teenagers could pay for college (like Boomers were able to, funnily enough.) Considering what today’s young people are able to do with barely a fraction of the money that Boomers had, why didn’t Boomers achieve more? Minimum wage Boomers were rolling in dough.


To think that there were Boomers who had trouble making ends meet on what today would be over $35/hr when they still had no children and had this much money flowing in goes to show how absolutely and undeniably terrible they were at budgeting.


But sure, it’s today’s young people who don’t know how to budget.

Yes, we are willing to work crap jobs.

That’s why we’re stuck in retail/factories/warehouses. We took the crap jobs, and now we’re stuck here because that’s as high as we can get without three or more years of specialization which no one will allow us to earn.


Too many older generations like to claim that the reason young people can’t find work is because we only want high-paying jobs high up in organizations or very easy, comfortable jobs. I once had someone say to me: “do you seriously think that someone with no experience should be handed a high-stakes job using expensive equipment or doing delicate surgeries?” Um, no, no one does. That’s not at all what we’re saying. We want entry-level positions to learn, gain experience, and work our way up to where you are now.


People who are privileged, successful, or over the age of 35 (or very young teenagers entering college) often think that people between the ages of 20 and 30 just don’t want to take lower-paying entry-level jobs. That is completely false. We would 100% accept a position for lower pay or poorer working conditions if it meant we had potential to climb higher, but no one is offering those jobs without requiring 3+ years of experience. We can’t get jobs no one will accept us for.

MINIMUM WAGE: No, returning minimum wage to a living wage is not a government handout.

People like to claim that it’s somehow “living off the government” to return minimum wage to what it was originally intended to be. They act as if people wouldn’t still be working for that money. It’s a wage, folks, not a handout. You’d still have to work to get it.


Minimum wage used to slowly increase to compensate for inflation. In the 70s, for example, minimum wage increased by a few cents every couple years. It increased five times in one decade alone. It continued to do so until it reached $7.25 in 2009, and then it just stopped. It’s been $7.25 for over a decade at this point. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history/chart


I honestly don’t know what the solution to this problem is. The fear is that increasing minimum wage suddenly will cause companies to charge more for their goods and services and therefore raise the cost of living. But on the flip side, increasing slowly, by a dollar a year or so, might not be enough to even catch up to where we should be, let alone keep up with inflation.


It’s worth considering that a few states have increased their state minimum wages, some even to the national living wage of $15, and those states haven’t imploded yet: (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/state). Several of those states even have a lower cost of living than states that still hold to $7.25.

Big corp wants us to believe that raising minimum wage will end the world, but will it actually? The evidence implies that it won’t. Is it possible that big corporations have just gotten used to to their massive profit margins which go straight into the pockets of those way up top, while the jobs they provide at the mid to bottom levels don’t even give their workers enough to live off of? When slavery was declared unconstitutional in the US in 1862, southern cotton plantations and other businesses that relied on cheap labor had to either change their ways quickly or shut down. Businesses in the South faced hardship, and many had to shut down. But do you know what? The South survived. They had to ride out the wave in order for the nation to survive. They adapted, and they pulled through.


Raising minimum wage does not appear to be the cause of inflation, contrary to what Big Corp and Boomers say. It used to respond to inflation, but it wasn’t the cause. It no longer responds, and inflation continues. For example: rent has doubled in cost over the past decade. Ten years ago, average rent for a one-bedroom apartment was around $800/month, as opposed to today’s rent of about $1,600 for the same apartment. Full time at $7.25 got you about $870/month (once you removed about 25% for taxes). Even just ten years ago, people on minimum wage could just cover rent if every dollar they earned working full time went to rent. Of course, that didn’t leave them money for groceries, electricity, water, car insurance, gas, or healthcare. People ten years ago still couldn’t live off of minimum wage in most cases, but it did go farther than it does today.

Also, the cost of living actually does not rise in response to a steady increase of minimum wage to compensate for inflation. States that hiked it all the way up to $15/hr very suddenly do of course have higher costs of living (but one must ask which came first: the cost of living or the increase in wages?) Such states are those such as California and New York. However, when you look at states such as Ohio or Oregon, which have had slow, steady increases in minimum wage over the years, they haven’t seen a spike in the cost of living. Ohio minimum wage is $8.80, a whole $1.55 more than the federal minimum wage of $7.25. Average rent in Ohio is around $700-$900 at the time of me writing this (https://www.rentcafe.com/cheap-apartments-for-rent/us/oh/), and their minimum wage is over a whole dollar more than the federal minimum wage. Then compare that to a state such as South Carolina which has no minimum wage laws and people still get paid $7.25, and look at the average cost of rent in South Carolina, which is well over $1,100 (https://www.rentcafe.com/cheap-apartments-for-rent/us/sc/?OrderBy=Rent). It costs more to live in South Carolina than it does in Ohio, but people in Ohio get paid more than people in South Carolina. Minimum wage in Oregon is $12/hr, and yet their cost of living is about equal with that of South Carolina. A higher minimum wage is not the cause of a higher cost of living.


NOTE: When figuring out the cost of living in a state or area of a state, it’s important to look at the costs it would require for YOU to live, not what “cost of living calculators” say. Websites which calculate costs of living in different states are usually very politically motivated and try to compare red (Republican) vs blue (Democratic) states to make one kind look worse or better than the other, but they’re generally not even looking at things like the cost of rent, housing prices, car insurance rates, the general cost of groceries, etc. They often pick and choose which numbers to factor in and which to leave out in order to skew the statistics in whatever political direction they want. When trying to figure out if a place is expensive to live in, look at things like rent and housing prices, food, cars, etc. Look at the things you know you spend money on each month. South Carolina is a very red state and typically shows up as having a low cost of living in those calculators, but as you can see, that’s not accurate. SC’s average rent is almost as high as the national average, which includes states like California.


Also, if people could actually live off of the wages they earned, there would be far, far fewer people living off of government handouts. People would have to justify why they can’t live off of a living wage. The entire point of people going to work and there being a minimum wage is so that people can earn their own keep and the government doesn’t have to pay to feed and house people. Our current system works by corporations making bank, and the vast majority of that money going to a very few, very wealthy people high up in the system, and the people who are doing the actual labor that those organizations can’t survive without aren’t even making enough to live, and thus the government has to step in and pay for those people to buy food and housing. I don’t know about you, but that’s a pretty inefficient system if you ask me. Food stamps and government handouts are meant to be a trampoline to jump off of, not a bed for us to lie in because the rich are standing with their feet on our necks.


No, we don’t make money with TikTok, Only Fans, [insert social media platform here].

There’s a stereotype that young people make huge amounts of money using social media. I think they like to push that stereotype because it makes us look lazy. “They’re whining about not being able to find work when they could be making millions on TikTok!” A few very rare, very lucky people do make money with social media, I will not deny. However, we’re talking one in a billion kinds of luck to make that work, and quite frankly, a lot of those people also have a second job to make ends meet. Pewdipie is hardly a normal situation.


A lot of us don’t have social media at all. Most of us only use a couple platforms. I personally don’t have TikTok, but out of those who do, most have never made a buck off of it. If you’re going to talk about social media as a potential job for us, you need to acknowledge that almost nobody makes money with it.

It's expensive to be poor.

This is something that even a lot of young people don't think about. The less money you have, the higher your cost of living tends to be. Allow me to explain:


First, it's easy to look at rich people and think "wow, they spend so much money each month," but think again. They CHOOSE to spend that much money. They CHOOSE to have fancy cars, big houses (or houses at all in today's market), collector dishes, the newest iPhone, etc. But at the end of the day, they're not required to pay for any of that in order to get by.


A person who is very poor, however, is going to have to pay more just to get by. For example: the only car they could afford might have been an unreliable one that costs them $500 every few months. Because the car keeps eating the money they're able to save, they can't afford a better car that will cost them less money in the long run. I watched a friend get stuck in this situation. He didn't have the money to buy a new car, so he had to keep fixing the car he had, and over the course of a year, that piece of junk cost him almost $10,000 to keep it running.


A person with a low-income job is not likely to have health insurance or a 401K through their employer. In order to have any sort of health insurance, they're going to have to straight-up buy it rather than have it provided for a discount (or free) by their employer, as a middle or upper-class person would have. A low-income worker may not be able to afford health insurance at all, and thus will forgo going to the doctor or dentist until they have a major problem that requires expensive care that otherwise could have been avoided had they been able to have a yearly physical exam.


I've personally seen this phenomenon on a smaller day-to-day scale. I've worked in retail for too much of my life, and at one point I worked at pet stores. A customer would come in and buy a pet snake, but they could only afford the $200 starter snake tank today, rather than the $300 snake tank that the snake will eventually need to grow into because the snake gets two feet long as an adult. The customer ultimately ends up paying $500 rather than $300 because they didn't have the money when they needed it. They lost $200 because they were broke.





Yes, we know that there is a “labor shortage” in the workforce.

Simply telling us that there are jobs out there won’t make those employers accept us without experience. The jobs that employers are having trouble filling are those that are in the mid to high range of experience. Those positions would be filled now if employers didn’t demand 3+ years of experience for workers to even get their foot in the door. If they allowed more entry-level workers, those workers would advance up and fill the positions that are currently left unfilled. Employers shot themselves in the foot by rejecting too many potential employees, and now they don’t have enough employees, and their potential employees are stuck in retail and manual labor. Explain how this is the rejected employees’ fault.


Another issue is that companies make it extremely difficult to find their open positions, and in many cases it’s actually impossible to find them if you’re not already in the company. The statistic that 80% of jobs are not advertised is probably a bit exaggerated, but the fact remains that the best jobs out there are not advertised. You have to know someone or already be in the organization.


If organizations lack employees, maybe they should, I don’t know, reach out and hire some people?


Instead of telling us we’re lazy because employers can’t find people to fill their mid-range experience jobs, talk to the people who are responsible for preventing us from getting into their entry-level positions. Tell employers to stop making unrealistic demands of entry-level workers.

Employers requiring experience in order to hire anyone is beginning to cause problems not just for applicants.

COVID-19 brought this problem to the surface. Because so many people went on unemployment at the same time, the working class realized they would actually be losing money by going back to work. Going back to work and working for slave wages meant that they wouldn’t be able to pay rent, wouldn’t be able to feed their families, etc. Employers are now being forced to pay people something close to a respectable wage. Now when I go driving, I see gas stations hiring at $10/hr, whereas before, they used to pay minimum wage of $7.25. I 100% support giving power back to workers.


Also due to COVID-19, millions of experienced workers were laid off/fired. Now they’re not wanting to go back to work and be paid slave wages. Good for them! However, this creates a work vacuum, and in some cases, even though employers are offering $2 more than they used to (which isn’t much to you guys who get bonuses of over $1,000 regularly), even though employers are offering slightly higher wages, the only workers who are applying for the jobs are new workers who are trying to get out of retail. The old, experienced workers have moved on to better jobs after their previous employers treated them like dirt and fired them, or, in many cases, they have quite literally died off or retired because they were so old. Now employers are faced with the option of hiring unexperienced workers and training them like they did in the old days. And do you know what? They’re turning applicants down and whining about how “no one wants to work!” They’re complaining of a labor shortage when they’re turning applicants down left and right because they’re too lazy to train them.


The school bus system is a perfect example of this. There aren’t enough bus drivers to get all the kids to and from school on time. But instead of hiring some of the people who are applying and training them to drive buses, the school system is rejecting almost all of those applicants and forcing their remaining few bus drivers to hit ALL of the neighborhoods and get ALL of the kids to school. Kids have to wake up earlier to sit at the bus stops longer because they don’t know when the buses are coming to pick them up. Mothers are having to choose between quitting their jobs and letting their kids have after-school activities because the buses can’t get the kids where they need to be on time, and moms now have to drive their kids around town. Kids can either learn skills that will help them survive when they’re older, or parents can earn enough money to help them survive now. Families can no longer have both. Because of how few buses there are to pick kids up now, school buses are stopping everywhere and picking up loads and loads of kids. Instead of stopping a handful of times and booking it to school, buses now stop everywhere, all the time. I have been late to work more times this past year than I was ever late to work in previous years combined, and almost every time it’s because I got stuck behind a school bus.

It takes longer to get food at restaurants now because they’re under-staffed. Restaurants aren’t paying enough to draw in experienced workers, and they’re turning away unexperienced applicants because they’re too lazy to train them.


Factories across the nation are “hiring desperately,” and yet they get flooded with applications daily and throw almost all of them away because the applicants “don’t meet our qualifications.” My best friend applied to one of these desperate factories, and his application was ignored for weeks until he found someone who already worked in the company who could put in a good word for him. And on top of that, my friend actually had experience in that field! He just didn’t have enough experience for them to consider him automatically.


The list could go on and on. Society is starting to teeter and have trouble on so many fronts, all because employers are too lazy to train workers.

No, not all of us are able to obtain a STEM degree.

When it comes to college, it’s more and more becoming true that the only degrees that are worth obtaining are STEM (science, technology, engineering/education, and math). Anything else is essentially another High School diploma.


Boomers and other successful people will tell us to “just get those degrees,” as if it’s something anyone can do because we decide to do so. This is incredibly ignorant. I understand not everyone has memories of sitting at the kitchen table sobbing while your dad screams “what’s 7 times 3??” but a lot of us actually do have those memories, and no, most of us who have those memories don’t have STEM degrees now.


There are a number of reasons people might not be able to get a STEM degree:

  1. They might already have a degree and can’t afford the money or time to get another. They might have a family now and can’t devote the time necessary to get a second degree.

  2. They might not be able to financially afford to get a degree at all. Tuition prices are actually much higher than they were for Boomers, believe it or not.

  3. Some people are just not good at math. Everyone has different skills, and not everyone is skilled in math. A healthy society should value everyone’s skills if they are willing to use them in the workforce, not just the skills of those who are good at math.

  4. Some people have learning disorders which prevent them from understanding higher mathematics. There’s a type of learning disorder called dyscalculia which affects the brain’s ability to comprehend numbers. It varies in severity, with some people completely unable to count money, perform basic mathematics, etc. Other people have disabilities such as autism and ADHD which affect communication between students and teachers. Without understanding what the teacher is trying to teach you, you probably won’t learn it. Occasionally an autistic student will essentially teach themselves and learn the systems of math independently of the teacher, because autism does give us a unique ability to understand systems. But if we can’t figure out the system independently because we can’t understand the textbooks, we may not be able to learn what we need to to pass the class, and the teacher probably won’t be able to explain it in any different way for us to understand. People with autism and ADHD are either incredibly good at mathematics, or incredibly bad at it.

No, we can’t all work in construction or manual labor.

Now that Boomers are realizing that college isn’t working out for us like they told us it would, they’re telling us that we’re lazy because “any construction company will hire and teach you.” (This of course completely ignores the glaring question of what will we do when we get sick/injured, or just plain old?) However, it’s still actually not true; many still require experience to get in, or they’re already filled with immigrant workers. However, they are correct that it is generally easier to get a construction/manual labor job than it is to get a job in the career fields that we’re actually good at.


However, that being said, not all of us are able to do that. Half of us are female, and females tend to be physically smaller and weaker than males. We’re not going to perform as well as males in construction or manual labor, and thus we’ll either not get hired in the first place, we’ll get fired quickly for not bringing in the best numbers, or we’ll get injured on the job. For example, I can’t even hold a brick one-handed. I’m strong enough to lift a brick of course, but I can’t wrap my fingers around it, much less build anything with them. Bags of cement are also large enough to crush an average female’s tiny shoulders. The entire world is about 4 inches too tall for me. I have to drag ladders around at work where my male coworkers don’t have to, and thus it can take me almost twice as long to get tasks done simply because I have to first locate a ladder and then move the ladder before I can do the task. We’re not built to do manual labor.


Females are also more likely to be harassed in the male-dominated construction/manual labor workplace. My best friend works in a factory that is almost completely populated by males. One day he saw a female worker come in to do her job, and the entire atmosphere of the workplace changed because the other workers couldn’t stop staring at her boobs and butt. Several workers had to physically leave and go to another part of the building because they couldn’t work around a female wearing the same work uniform as them. Disgusting. What was that poor woman’s work life like if she got objectified day in and day out for simply being female?


Then there are those of us who are disabled. Individuals with scoliosis, paralysis, nerve damage, muscle dis-coordination, chronic illness, chronic pain, or almost any other physical disability are weeded out of manual labor jobs very quickly. People with disabilities are expected to work office jobs, but they can’t get office jobs because they don’t have 3+ years of experience.


And then there are those of us who are disabled AND female.

No, we can’t just “get disability insurance.”

Abled people like to think of disability insurance as a program that makes sure everyone is cared for, but in reality, it isn’t. I used to think that’s how it worked until I actually saw one of my friends try to apply for it. My friend is in her mid twenties, is female, uses a wheelchair because she suffers from chronic pain and frequent paralysis episodes, can’t drive because she has seizures and because of the paralysis episodes, she’s in the emergency room probably at least once a month, has tried to work but can’t keep jobs because she can’t work reliably because of her health problems, and doctors are one by one giving up on her because they can’t keep up with each new problem that arises. She also has been dealing with doctors retiring because she has to go to the extreme advanced specialists because new young doctors aren’t specialized enough yet to know what’s wrong with her body. She has been applying for disability insurance for 5 years and they keep rejecting her. If she’s not a qualifying candidate, who is?

The disability insurance system is created to be so convoluted, confusing, and backwards, so that anyone with a disability will not have the energy (or, if they have a mental disability), the ability at all to navigate it. I am extremely fortunate that I am currently able-bodied enough to work, because with my autism, there is absolutely no way I would be able to figure out how to get disability insurance. Imagine if I wasn’t able to work and didn’t have friends or a support system to turn to for help. Is it any wonder that most homeless people on the streets have a mental or physical disability of some sort? Our system has utterly failed them. Is this the country I’m supposed to be proud of?

And also, even if you do qualify health-wise for disability (and seriously, how bad off do you have to be??) you usually aren’t allowed to be employed, and they generally give you something like $500 each month. Again, keep in mind that rent for a studio flat costs around $1,600. Have fun living off of $500 and paying for all of your live-in care and medical bills. If you are allowed to be employed and you are physically able to work a job, many states make it legal for employers to pay disabled workers less than minimum wage. Considering that it’s impossible to live off of minimum wage in the first place, this literally means it is legal to force disabled citizens work for slave wages. In some states, that information is required to be posted in workers’ break rooms so they know they can’t argue if they’re being paid unequal wages due to their disability.

You need to stop shaming people for working unskilled jobs.

I don’t know any other way to say this. You just need to stop. Our society needs those jobs in order to function. YOU need those jobs in order to have the privileged lifestyle you enjoy. Therefore, you need to respect the people who perform them.

That’s what our Labor Day holiday was supposed to be about. Instead, now it’s a day where salaried office workers in suits and ties with 401Ks and health benefits get paid to have the day off, and everyone else still has to serve them. The people the holiday was meant to celebrate are prohibited from celebrating it.


I came across a conversation where someone in their 40s was making fun of a young person who stacked boxes to pay for their rent and food. They were scolding the young person, saying how it was their choice to accept that job, that they’ll never get anywhere in life stacking boxes, etc., etc. It was disgusting. The young person kept explaining that it wasn’t their choice to stack boxes, but they had to accept work where work was available, and it paid better than retail. The young person had a college degree, but couldn’t find work in their field because they didn’t enter the workforce with 3+ years of experience. They were looking for work, but currently, they were stacking boxes.


If a person is doing honest work and not earning money through dubious means, then their work is valid and should never be shamed. You don’t know the reason they are working that job. They might be just entering the workforce for the first time as a youngster, they might be in rehab, they might be trapped there because they can’t get 3+ years of experience in the skill they’re actually good at and very knowledgable in, etc. You have no right to assume anything nor to shame anyone based on your assumptions.

The least you can do is be polite to the cashier when they make a human mistake, or when the computer system (that they did not choose nor design) is acting up or unable to perform the action you and the cashier need it to do, or when the customer service representative is following protocol that you don’t like, or when the store is out of the item you wanted to buy. Also, we know that inflation is a new concept to you people, but do you seriously think that the people who work in retail stores have any control over the prices of the items there? No! They don’t! The suits and ties in corporate control everything, down to the words and phrases the workers are allowed to use with you. You have NO RIGHT to accuse them of ANYTHING. If you have an issue with their policy, take it out on corporate, NOT the workers. Tell the workers you understand it’s not their fault and that you won’t bring them up at all.


Unless you have personally offered someone a job and they have personally rejected it, you have no right to judge them for being stuck where they are.

No, “contacting companies” doesn’t work anymore.

Boomers had the luxury of being able to walk in and ask about employment. They whine about how hard it was to go door to door, but do they know what we would give to be able to do that today? That only places that really works now is in retail, hence why so many young people are trapped in retail. Almost all other organizations have extremely effective gatekeeping specifically to keep people from walking in and asking about employment. If there’s even a way for you to get in without swiping a badge, most of the time they tell you “sorry, we’re not hiring right now.” If you’re lucky, they send you online, where they may or may not be willing to listen to anything you have to say. Their website might not have a way for you to apply, and the only way to contact them is their “contact” page, and you’re pretty much guaranteed that they won’t get back to you, no matter how many times you try to contact them.


No, “handing in a resume” doesn’t work anymore.

This is connected to the “contacting companies” problem. Most employers just ignore you if you contact them. If you turn in a resume, you still get ignored. Employers just don’t write or call back anymore.


Another thing that Boomers don’t seem to understand is that many companies filter resumes using computers. The computers are programmed to look for specific keywords which they don’t reveal to the public. Resumes which have low quantities or none of the desired keywords are automatically thrown out and never reach the employers. This is an incredibly foolish thing for employers to do, because it rejects potentially thousands of good employees on the basis of those candidates not knowing what the magic words are. Then employers have the gaul to turn around and say they can’t find employees. They complain of a labor shortage when they are literally rejecting people right and left because we don’t know the secret password.

“Well, your generation shouldn’t have gone to college if it wouldn’t get you what you needed.”

I’m sorry, but I was a child who trusted my elders. YOU told us that we needed to go to college to be successful. Hindsight 20/20 I can see I should have thrown your advice out the window, but I was a child who was brainwashed to listen to my elders. You gave us bad advice, and now we have to start over after having finished college. Our biological clocks don’t last any longer than yours did, so yes, we’re having fewer children because we can’t afford them at the same age you could.

There are many reasons we prefer text and email over phone calls and face-to-face conversations, and they’re not all “the internet’s fault.”


I personally hate phone calls, but I don’t have an issue if it’s honestly the best option. But in most cases, it’s actually not the best option, and I’ll explain why.


First, there’s the issue of arranging a time when both parties are available. In order to talk on the phone or in person, both parties have to have free time at the same time to do it. That can actually be very hard to do, especially when young people are stuck working rotating schedules that have us unavailable when you’re working your neat and tidy 9 to 5. If you’ve ever played phone tag with a doctor for several weeks, you understand the struggle!


Second, phone calls and in-person conversations don’t keep a record of what was said, unless the call is recorded or there’s a third person in the room for in-person conversations, and then the third person might not always be reliable. Text and emails create a written record. I once lost about $0.50/hour because a job offer was given to me by phone rather than text or email. My new manager sent me a text asking me to call her, where she offered me the job over the phone and cited a specific number for my wages. But when I went in physically to accept the job, I was offered something 50 cents less than what we’d agreed on over the phone. Without a written record, I had no way to prove it. If my manager and I had spoken via text or email rather than by phone, I would be getting paid more now.

Interest rates on housing may be lower than they were in your day, but housing prices themselves are sky-high.

The header says it all. To put it in more detail: Boomers like to whine about their 12% interest rates vs our 3%-10% interest rates and make it out that they paid as much as we do for housing. That’s definitely not true. Their interest rates were a bit higher than ours are now, but the prices of houses (depending on if you want to live in the hood or somewhere safe) are far, far higher than they were for our parents and grandparents. A tiny, two-bedroom house goes for over $250,000 now. In the early 2000s, my parents bought a 3-bedroom house in a nice neighborhood and paid $190,000 for it. They thought it was a high price at the time but bit the bullet and went with it. Today, houses smaller than theirs in the same neighborhood are selling for over $330,000. Housing costs have more than doubled in two decades alone.


I have definitely heard stories of middle-class boomers who paid off their nice (not a mansion, but nice) house in 2-3 years using one spouse’s salary. The wife would work to pay off the house so by the time she started having babies, the house would be completely theirs. Those with only one working spouse of course took longer to pay off their houses, but the fact remains that one person could pay off a house in about 2-3 years. But now, not even millennials’ parents were able to do that, much less millennials who are working for slave wages and our houses cost twice what our parents paid for them. Today, someone could devote their entire salary to paying off their house, and it could take them upwards of 20-30 years to do it. We have absolutely no hope of owning our houses before our biological clocks run out and it’s too late for us to bear children. Sure, Boomers’ interest rates were higher, but their housing costs were significantly lower, and their salaries went farther than ours do. They also had more of a chance of starting careers earlier than we do.

The U.S. is no longer a wealthy nation.

The US gives the impression of being a wealthy nation because our incomes are quite high compared to much of the world, and because the people who run the nation are extremely wealthy, and because we have large corporations, but in reality, the nation is sinking into trillions of dollars of debt, inflation is skyrocketing again, and our buying power with our seemingly high incomes is far less than most of the civilized world. For example: I’ve worked hard to save up a fair amount of money. I could buy two houses in Finland with that money, or a single house in a lot of other European countries. That makes me sound like I’m wealthy, doesn’t it? But here in America, I don’t even reach the poverty line. I can’t even afford a standard apartment flat here.

A lot of you have a misunderstanding of what “privilege” means.

Privileged people often mistake the word “privilege” for meaning “not needing to work.” That’s not what it means. It means you don’t have to deal with as many obstacles as less-privileged people do. You still have to work of course, but you might not have to work as hard, or it was easier for you to get the job you have, or you just get paid more to do the same work, etc. Privilege can take many forms.


A good example is my best friend and his younger sibling. My friend is undiagnosed, but we’re both very sure he’s on the autism spectrum. His younger sibling is neurotypical and extremely extroverted. The sibling was one of the two favorite kids in the family growing up, and it filled them with confidence from a young age. Everyone loves the sibling. The sibling knows everyone. Nothing ever seems to go wrong for them. I’ve watched them make decisions that I’ve seen destroy peoples’ lives, and yet nothing ever comes of them. They quit one job before they had another lined up? Oh that’s all right, their friend owns a carpentry business and will take them on as a well-paid, full-time intern. Hey, earn some career experience at the same time! Needs a place to crash? No worries, their other friend has a space they can use. Before recent years, they had made decisions that were much worse than these, but I don’t need to talk about them here to respect their privacy. Sure, a date or two dumped them during their dating life, but that’s normal. Pretty much everyone experiences that. I don’t want to give their exact age to protect their privacy, but they’re younger than 23, and they own their own business now (which is currently doing very well), and they’re about to get married and start a family. Does that sound like your life? If so, you’ve got some serious privilege. Nothing you should be ashamed of, but you should at least acknowledge it and use it to help those who aren’t as privileged.


Meanwhile my best friend is older than his brother, but because his autism prevents him from knowing how to “play the game,” every door he has ever tried to walk through has been slammed in his face. I’ve watched him make the same decisions his younger brother made, and yet he’ll end up shoved aside, all alone, and barely scraping by. I don’t think he would want me to give too many details, but I will say it’s very unfair. Everywhere he turns it’s just walls and locked doors, and if he does manage to start squeezing through a crack in one of those doors, life will slam it shut again on his neck. Meanwhile his younger sibling stands there trying to choose which open door they should walk through.


Does his younger sibling work? Yes. But life comes a lot easier to them than it does for my friend. That’s what privilege is.



Yes, the 1% could end homelessness.

It’s estimated that it would require about 30-40 billion dollars to provide enough housing vouchers to get all homeless Americans off the streets for 1 year. While of course there will be those who choose to go back to their old lives, most, if given the chance to break the cycle and get help, would choose to take that offer.


The Koch family’s annual revenue is $115 billion. If they donated just 25% of that for one year, it would equal $28 billion. They could easily team up with Bill Gates (who receives over $110 billion annually), or the Kardashians (of whom Kim alone receives $28 million annually, not even considering the rest of the family), etc. If these people would team up and be generous just once, just once, they could break the cycle of homelessness. But no, the wealthy only look after themselves.


The wrong people have money.





"The problem isn't Boomers or the system, the problem is your attitude."


Yes, because my attitude is what raised housing costs, prevented minimum wage from compensating for inflation, and allows hospitals to charge $700 for a pregnancy test.





I know that most successful people or Boomers are going to read this and say “you’re just complaining and being whiny.” Whatever you need to tell yourself. Until you have come up with a solution that actually works, you’re the one doing the complaining. We are stating facts. We are allowed to state facts and be upset by those facts. Until you have something new to bring to the table, you have no right to complain about us bringing up facts that make you uncomfortable.

I can’t help but notice how older generations like to say that “it’s not fair” is a whiny, childish, and immature response to unfair situations. That’s a convenient way for your generations to have peace and quiet by forcing the rest of us to sit down shut up while we deal with the problems you caused. Your attitude of “it’s not my problem” is every bit as childish and short-sighted as “it’s not fair.” NO MORE. We have the numbers. We have the evidence. We can see the poverty our children live in. And no, IT’S NOT FAIR.

While all of these problems are your generation’s fault, we understand that most of you no longer have agency to do anything about these problems. Those of you who run businesses, own apartment complexes, are selling houses, etc., or are hiring managers can do a significant amount to help, but not all of you are in those positions. We understand that. But we would greatly appreciate it if at the very least, you could acknowledge that our situation is pretty bad and isn’t something you had to deal with. We would appreciate it if you stopped blaming us for things we had no agency to cause and now have no way to fix until you actually pay us.

If you were curious, here are comments made by privileged people when asked what they think about minimum wage, young people entering the workforce, the cost of rent, etc.

“Anyone demanding living wage probably doesn’t deserve one.”

  • I just…what?? I mean okay, sure, the majority of the population doesn’t deserve to live. That’s cool.

“Agree pay is not accurate however also agree many people do not work as hard or as well for their job and just expect money. At all job grade levels these days.”

  • I like the “these days” comment in this one. Classic boomer. Bruh, I hate to break it to you, but people have been lazy since the dawn of time. It’s just that these days, we get paid less for working harder than you did.

“No matter what is said you will have an excuse so go cry in the corner while the rest of us succeed.”

  • I will always have a reason, yes, because the numbers back me up. I may be one of the lucky ones, but I at least can acknowledge that there’s a knife in this body. And no, the rest of you aren’t succeeding, actually. Only a few privileged ones are. Be thankful you are one of them, and use what you have been given to help those who weren’t as fortunate.

“Make yourself worth more. You don’t ‘deserve’ anything.”

  • What a novel idea! Why, I’ll just go out today and manifest three years of work experience! Thank you for your inspiring advice!

“wrong career ,,,it’s NEVER up to the government to make you succeed. Do it on your own or live off the government, in poverty.”

  • Not sure where this person learned to type, but okay, cool, I’ll make sure everyone is a math genius and can study engineering. Also, I’ll make sure that they graduate high school with three years of work experience in their career field so that they can earn a wage high enough to get them through college and/or get them a roof over their head.

“Just go get three years of experience and make something of yourself.”

  • Whatever you say, champ. EDIT: After conversing with this person further, it turns out they are an engineering student whose parents are paying all of their university fees. I can smell the privilege from here.

“You're lying through your teeth. Either you live in an ultra liberal state like Cali, or you're skilless”

  • This comment was made in response to me describing my current job situation, my education, etc. I let him know I live in a red state, possibly one of the most conservative states in the entire US, and no I’m not “skilless,” as I had literally just finished explaining to him. This person clearly doesn’t understand the severity of this issue.

"So you telling me wherever he worked there was no other job? Jobs everywhere are always hiring. Everyone has a option and choice. Stop smoking crack”

  • This comment is describing how people supposedly have a choice to get better jobs and just choose to stay in minimum wage because they’re lazy. I pointed out that all those jobs he speaks of here where “everyone is always hiring” are really just more minimum wage jobs. Also, I don’t do drugs. How polite of him. He responded with: “snif. All this privlages smell so good. Stfu.”

“Not all jobs start you at minimum wage. Work as a cook at taco bell was paid only 6hr, went over to sonic as a cook started at 11hr. worked at auto body shop that only paid 10hr. Went to different body shop; same exact job doing the same thing I did as the previous, made 20 hr. So don't give me that bullcrap. It depends on where you go and how cheep the employer wants to be. You would know that if you ever had a real job instead of making commission on drawings”

- This person shows how rude, ignorant and judgmental he is by implying that art is not a real job. People actually make thousands on art if they know how to market themselves. He also assumes I get all of my money through commissions, which of course is not true. However, it does provide some nice cushioning on top of my other work. Anyway, he also seems to think that wanting to work somewhere means you can work at that place, just like that. Unfortunately, that’s not how the world works. Businesses that pay more than minimum wage generally require experience before they’ll hire you. Essentially, the reason he got the job at Sonic that paid more than Taco Bell was because he had previous experience at Taco Bell. The same goes for the auto body shops he mentioned. People have to be willing and able to live with their parents and eat ramen noodles to get the experience to be paid $11hr and then maybe they can graduate from ramen to spaghetti.

“Lotta warehouse jobs around me starting at 15 an hour. Some places with several hundred dollar hiring bonuses as well”

  • Again, here is the “just work heavy manual labor” excuse. As I explained in this article in the section about manual labor, this option is not open to everyone.

“Don’t work for minimum wage. Simple. You can make 15/hr with just a high school diploma and a little experience in a conventional job (excluding starting your own business, day trading, all that bullsh*t) Need more? Go get certifications, licenses, CDL, associate degrees, make yourself a valuable employee. Tired of seeing everyone bitch that there’s no jobs, no middle class, etc. you’re just unwilling to bust your ass for what you want. Find a job out in the sun and I bet you won’t be making minimum wage. minimum wage jobs are for high school teenagers.”

  • Don’t work for minimum wage? Wow, what a concept! Thank you for your insight! Also, I don’t think he realizes that certifications, licenses, CDL, and college degrees cost money, sometimes thousands. Depending on the situation you’re in, you might not have thousands lying around to take a gamble. And at the end, he finishes with the mindset that minimum wage is just for high school teenagers, even though people used to be able to live off of minimum wage, and its original intention was to be a living wage.

“You’re misidentifying the problem. First assumption is privilege. I started at the bottom, grew up in a trailer, had name brand nothing, and had to struggle. paid my way through school while working, still had nothing, struggled to pay bills, but kept at it and moved up. Millennials abs Gen-z expect to start at the top, they aren’t loyal and never stay at a company more than 6 months to 2 years, and then curl up in the fetal position because their starting pay isn’t 100k. Going to school is less important than being a humble hard worker. Especially since most of you get liberal arts degrees not connected to a job skill. Ultimately what you’re finding out is the real world isn’t full of participation trophies and caring your feelings. It’s hard out there. Work hard, be loyal, you break through. Complaining isn’t a strategy.”

-Do you realize the pay you all earned at minimum wage would equal about $30/hr today? You don’t even realize your own privilege. Almost every one of us worked our way through college as well, but our $7.25 doesn’t take the smallest bite out of the behemoth that is today’s tuition. Housing costs have more than doubled in the past decade alone. We have survived two economic crisis during our short working lives, and we haven’t even gotten our first real jobs. The fact that you struggled to pay bills on what today would be $30/hr goes to show how bad you are at budgeting. Don’t whine to me about what it means to be at the bottom when you could get a starting job that allowed you to work your way up and your wages allowed you to live. We can’t get started because no one will let us start getting experience. Someone has to be willing to hire an inexperienced worker in order for them to start at the bottom, and no one will. I’m sick of you old people whining at us for working our butts off every single day of the week while you sit in your air-conditioned office, ready to head home at 5:00, and had your free dental visit this morning covered by insurance. You couldn’t even pay your bills on $30/hr, and you expect us to pay ours on $12/hr? How far removed from reality can you be?

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ZigNaj's avatar

Read some of this (and skimmed some I'll admit). There are a lot of good points.


I have read many interesting things written on the subject (as well as seen other people arguing about it online). I think there is probably no blame-free party here.


Interesting points I've seen or come up with myself:

* Colleges are charging way too much. This is partly enabled by the Federal Government's aid and student loans. (Student debt from said loans is a massive problem too.) I've also seen the claim that foreign students who can afford to pay full price brings tuition up. If someone can pay more, the price goes up.

* There is a serious problem of useless degrees. Shame on the universities for offering them as well as people for taking the courses. And shame on anyone who advises "any college degree is good."

* Many people shouldn't go to college.

* Grade inflation may also be a problem; "C" was supposed to be an average grade. Now it's much harder to tell what students are good because they're all clustered around As and Bs. (This may contribute to the uselessness of resumes and transcripts in hiring.)

* The healthcare system is messed up because there are too few choices. Government healthcare systems are even worse (because they are monopolistic). The Canadian healthcare system uses rationing, and people with severe diseases like cancer can get put on months-long waitlists for diagnosis! (By that point, your curable tumor may be incurable.) Several years ago (2013?), someone from Sweden went to the USA and one of his party broke a leg. They went to a "pay-out-of-pocket" place and were surprised at how cheaply they got off.

- Cash-only doctors are worth looking at. I can't remember now where I first saw that, but sometimes you end up paying a lot less. Here are some pros and cons: https://www.moneycrashers.com/cash-only-doctors-no-insurance/

- A bit more on various health care systems: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/medicare_for_all_and_the_free_market.html

* I have heard that what are now called "minimum wage jobs" were supposed to be entry-level jobs for high schoolers so they could get some experience. I have also seen fast food places, faced with higher minimum wages, simply using order kiosks or playing with hours. I also see raising the minimum wage as more of a band-aid on a bigger problem: if the job market were not so distorted, it probably wouldn't be necessary.

- (On the subject of kids working, in one town in Utah I saw plenty of high-schooler amusement park operators. Their community seemed much healthier.)

* I've read about many unfilled skilled work jobs, but conditions and "need experience" barriers could be a big part of that problem.

- I don't believe in paying people not to work, but you're right that it exposed a serious problem.

* Illegal immigration is actually a large problem: it's a great source of unscrupulous cheap labor. Can't hire citizens at a good price? Hire someone else. (Illegal immigration is highly unfair to legal immigrants, who hate it!)

* Big Business <3 Big Government. Wall street is nicely cozied up with regulators (I've seen it said that there's a "revolving door" between the two).

* Regulations have gotten a lot stricter, sometimes insanely so, for permits and construction and other things. All that cost has to go somewhere. (Empire State Building, for instance, was put up in 9 months. Now you probably can't even get the permits that fast! I've heard of permits taking years. Not all regulations are bad, but some are.)

- Actually, big business likes more regulations. They price smaller competition out of the market because the bigger company can more easily afford to pay for the required permits and inspections and whatnot.

* Can confirm the headaches of needing a good word from someone rather than only a resume, and the effectiveness of knowing people.

* The government has been trying to eliminate all private charity and aid. It wants everyone to depend on it. This contributes to the mess as it sucks up money that could be saved for a rainy day or given to someone in need. It also contributes to a mentality shift of "just me and the government" rather than networking with friends and family and building community.

* Moving away to your own house as soon as you finish school is actually kind of a new development. Centuries ago, you'd have families living and working much closer together. Nobody was living rent-free, of course, but it helped lower costs and keep strong ties.


Guy from Australia on cost increases as well as "real wages."

Makes many good points about purchasing power increasing over time and having more luxuries than ever before (such as air conditioning and plumbing), but also wage stagnation and inflation, and the trend of women in the workforce actually increasing the price of housing. (If your buyers have 2 incomes, prices go up!)

https://malcolmsmiscellany.blogspot.com/2020/08/the-case-for-capitalism.html

He seems pretty realistic. Here's his "life was better in the 50s and 60s" pieces:

https://malcolmsmiscellany.blogspot.com/2019/10/life-was-better-in-1950s-and-60s-1-of-3.html


TL;DR is basically that we have monopolistic companies and governments working on maximizing their growth and profits, and an increasingly atomized society. We need more anti-trust activity and to try to avoid the corporations that sell convenience but ultimately bankrupt us. And also to focus more on building lasting ties in person (he says while typing online :P).

Oh, and it would help if the bureaucracy weren't eating an insane amount of money.

https://notthebee.com/article/americans-spent-more-money-on-taxes-last-year-than-on-food-healthcare-and-clothing-combined

(Not the Bee is slightly humorous in their presentation but true stories.)


Edit: A few more thoughts below in 2 replies by me.

ZigNaj's avatar

A couple other thoughts:

* Hundreds of years ago, many hospitals were non-profits run by religious communities. So they were affordable (free to those who couldn't pay).

* Public schools often don't teach kids to be proficient at, well, any school subject. (You can read news articles about high schoolers who can't read.) This is not helping set kids up for success. Its very system is "Prussian Model," originally conceived to make kids good little citizens loyal to the government.

* Everything, given long enough, tends to fail or turn into a bureaucracy or a monopoly. I'm highly suspicious of the latter two, and failures should not be propped up.

* Labor unions: proposed by some as a solution, unfortunately most are just a monopoly of their own. They extract union dues from their workers and tend to donate to big government to maximize their profits. There have been some spectacular corruption scandals lately, such as at the UAW.

- I think some kind of labor union might work well, but most extant ones don't.


A couple other thoughts:

* Credit card and other usury seriously contributes to staying deep in debt. (Dave Ramsey has some good things on money management; I took a class of his.) Usury is evil.


* While this is a lesser factor, there was a post WWII economic boom that contributed to the time many Boomers were young being incredibly successful and wealthy. The USA was basically the last industrial nation standing so goods were in demand from everywhere. Naturally as other countries rebuilt, the demand fell off.


* The 2008 financial crisis showed up many bad practices by government and lending. It also contributed to our current mess.

ZigNaj's avatar

It is also possible to sound "whiny" even when you're right. Unfortunately, it's easier (not to mention highly tempting) to ignore someone who sounds that way rather than separate the valid points from the annoying tone. I think we do have a problem with modern people being more needlessly anxious and whiny, but that does not make the actual problems false.


(The Coddling of the American Mind is a great book on somewhat-related social pathologies. Social media contributes to anxiety. And decision fatigue.)

RainAndLava's avatar

This is an absolutely amazing article you just made. Everything about this is excellent. You knocked it right out of the park.

MonocerosArts's avatar

Thank you! It took a lot of research and talking to toxic people, but it was worth it in the end to be able to put it all down in one place.


Also, thanks for sticking up for me with that jerk on here. It does say something when the only argument anyone could brought up against this in the week it's been up so far is "go touch some grass." Lol

Vtoony's avatar

Thanks for posting this, this really was helpful.

MonocerosArts's avatar

You're welcome! It was very satisfying to write, even if it did take a lot of research and talking to toxic people.

I-am-Ayla-Cat's avatar

Admittedly I don't have the time to read this, but I do want to share something. As a uni student in Australia, I have access to youth allowance. As I am classed as dependant, this is approximately $300AUD per fortnight. I thought this was decent when I got it - $200 went to food and rent, and about $40 went into the cost of my new supplies for uni each fortnight (I am paying off the cost of a better computer). My mother on the other hand found this appalling. The youth allowance for individuals classed as dependant has gone DOWN in 18 years, while the cost off rent and food has gone UP significantly during this time.

MonocerosArts's avatar

Your rent costs $200??? Heavens to murgatroid, do you have any idea what American youth would give for that? I’m not trying to make you feel bad, it’s just if your mother thinks it’s bad over there, what would she think it’s like over here where our rent is $1,600?

I-am-Ayla-Cat's avatar

I rent through the australian government, rent is approx 25% of the income weekly, however due to my parents losing about 3x what i earn each fortnight I pay them the $200. My point was that despite rent being considerably cheap for me (and I thought it was decent considering I'm studying for an area the government currently doesn't want people going into), I'm getting paid the same as what people were paid over 18 years ago, and apparently I'm supposed to be getting double that due to the way prices have changed here.


Also, just a note: I'm calculated as a dependant, which means the assumption is made that there are other people with larger incomes supporting me, which is why I am happy with it. It would be an entirely different situation if I had been forced to relocate as the independent Youth Allowance rate is only $400AUD (for my course), while the rent costs for the areas I would have to be in to attend on campus is at least twice that per person.

My area is classed as rural/regional (despite having a major highway running straight through the centre), and the house I'm in is not designed for living in (electricians refuse to service us as the Department of Housing won't authorise what needs to be done in order for services to actually work).

MonocerosArts's avatar

Okay, I think I understand better! Your situation sounds similar to mine. I'm currently getting paid similar to what my parents were paid in the 1980s, and I make it work because I've found an unusual living situation and a great roommate and we split rent. But at the end of the day, there's no reason our wages shouldn't have risen along with normal expenses!

Randypitch99's avatar

Go touch some grass!

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MonocerosArts's avatar

Authors write, bro. That’s what we do.

Randypitch99's avatar

You're not an author. You're just a bastard of a child who has never touched grass in his entire life and writes a entire damn essay on a website infested with fetish art and pornography.

MonocerosArts's avatar

Why do you hang around on a website infested with fetish art and pornography and spend your time insulting the authors of what isn't fetish art and pornography? Seems you're only after one thing here.


Go touch some grass, not yourself.

RainAndLava's avatar

Can you like, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Fatfetishman's avatar

#LOL SocialismSucks. Ask people here from Venezuela. Ask people here from Cuba. Ask people here from China. Ask people here from Soviet Russia. If nobody celebrated labor day then why is anything closed on labor day? Why are lakes & ocean beaches packed on labor day? Shouldn't all those people be at work?

MonocerosArts's avatar

I don’t believe socialism is the answer. You’ll notice it’s nowhere in here. However, our current system isn’t working, either, and will ultimately end us in the same place. There will always be privileged rich people to enjoy holidays such as Labor Day. The US is no longer a democracy, it’s socialism for the wealthy. They trade money back and forth and sap more money from the middle and lower class each day. They keep getting richer, and the little people keep getting poorer. Even our social security tax, money taken from the middle and lower classes, is funneled to the privileged Boomers because they’re retired. It’s the most socialist thing I’ve ever seen, and no one is talking about it.

DameonStarflame's avatar

The funny thing about the "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" saying is that it's become twisted from it's original intent. Have you tried to pull yourself up by your bootstraps? It's impossible. You can't make yourself hover by pulling on your bootstraps. The saying originally meant that something was impossible to do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it once went "You can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps" before being chopped down like so many other phrases in the past.

Chordata-Flyer's avatar

That makes sense. The same way "Blood is thicker than water" came from "The blood of the convenient is ticker than the water of the womb." and has been twisted to mean the exact opposite of it's original meaning.

MonocerosArts's avatar

That’s true; I never thought of that!

bignastyshrek's avatar

This just showed up in my recommendations, and though I don't know who you are, you're right on a lot of this. Thank you.

MonocerosArts's avatar

Thanks! It took a long time to research. A lot of this information isn’t well-known. People know that wages don’t go as far as they used to, but no one bothers to calculate out exactly how bad things are.

bignastyshrek's avatar

I had no idea that minimum wage in the 50s was equivalent to 20 USD today.

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