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5) YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE ISN'T ENGLISH, YET YOU PUBLISH IN ENGLISH


A lot of times when a story on DA is especially awful, I'll click on the author's avatar and find out they are from Poland, the Phillippines, or Chile. That is - their story is written in english, but english isn't their native language.

If a writer has a good grasp of english, that's not a problem. However, that is rarely the case - far from having an understanding of english, it's clear they've used google-translator to convert the text.

That would be like me writing a story in my native english, then google-translating it into japanese, then posting it on an asian fiction site - for ACTUAL Japanese people to read. Does that sound like a good idea? Do you think a japanese reader would like to be subjected to the terrible, unreadable grammar this would produce?

Here's a recent example I found from a dA author (I've changed the character/s names):

"David has accepted Mrs. Harts offer and moved back to town with small Penny. He took my old apartment on downstairs. As soon as, I finish my work so I help David with their daughter. David is getting very hard over her death."

That's right. 'David is getting very hard over her death.' When I suggested to the author in his comments section that he might want to change that sentence, he changed it to, "David has got very hard over with her death," which still isn't an english sentence quite yet, but at least David sounds like slightly less of a necrophile now.

I'm not saying NEVER publish in English if it's your second or third language. But at least ask an english-speaking friend if it's understandable first. Unless of course you're comfortable with your submissions being embarrassingly terrible.  

4) YOU TELL A STORY LIKE YOU'RE WRITING A GROCERY LIST


If your story starts with something like this: 

(authors note: Leonardos POV)

...you're doing it wrong. You don't have to TELL me whose POV I'm reading in. It will be readily apparent as soon as I begin reading, or even before that, from the chapter title, or even before that, from the book title. And if it's NOT immediately apparent who the viewpoint character is, well that's a nice little mystery for the reader to finally solve as they're drawn into reading your story, isnt it?

Second, a story isn't just "this happened, and then this happened, and then this next thing happened." There's a little thing called 'cadence' and 'voice' that stories have used since there WERE stories. Cadence, or 'speaking-flow', is like the way you take the readers hand and guide them through the information you're delivering in the story. If there isnt a nice balance of punctuation and grammar, a story feels like a list of information, not a journey or adventure. It's just short, sharp sentences jabbing information into the readers head.

Ouch!

The 'voice' you write in should literally feel to the reader as if a new person has entered their life and is telling a REAL story that REALLY happened. You should probably think about using it. People do. For a good reason.

3) YOU NEVER EVEN READ - LET ALONE EDIT - YOUR STORY BEFORE PRESSING 'SUBMIT'


This one speaks for itself. COME ON GUYS! (and girls) At least re-read your story ONCE before you press submit. I bet you'll find at least ten mistakes. And trust me, readers don't wanna deal with working out what you're TRYING to say. You should have worked that out clearly for them.

I've seen authors on dA who have written a series of works, over years, and the last sentence in the last chapter of the story has a spelling or grammar mistake! Do you know how BAD that looks? It looks like even YOU don't care about your story. How do you expect anyone else to?

RE-READ and EDIT. PLEASE!!! (my eyes...argh myeuyes!@!)

2) THERE'S NO ACTUAL PLOT, JUST EMOTIONS


A story without a story. Well done. You did it man, you REALLY did it. Oh well, as long as some commenters leave some poorly-spelled comments about 'major feelz', I guess its all worthwhile, huh?

No.

It isn't.

1) YOU THINK AN 'X-READER' IS A LEGITIMATE STORY DEVICE


I realise this is not a popular view on dA, but honestly, I feel that X-Readers are an embarrassment to the definition of the word 'story.' When I was growing up, Choose Your Own Adventure books were popular. They were never really considered serious novels, but they were a fun diversion when you couldn't play real D&D. X-READERS are like Choose Your Own Adventures... minus the choice, style and fun. You are TOLD what to think and feel; and you have NO choice in the outcome.

For some reason X-Readers are also very homoereotic and emotional (see 2). The emotional range seems to be hugs/near kisses = warm feeling, and screaming/shivering = bad feeling. THAT'S the entire emotional range a typical X-Reader TELLS you to feel. As if I were a kitten or something.

I have not read a SINGLE X-Reader that made me respond with: "Hey, this is good! Well-written! Challenging!" And every 'love scene' I've read in one made me shiver in repulsion and disbelief. Yet they CLOG-UP DeviantArt by the millions, making my DeviantArt experience go something like this:

Author logs-on to dA - "Hmm, let's see what stories have been submitted while I was away."

BuckyXSteveRodgersxApplejack - terribly written garbage. Next...

LeonardoXQueenElsa - stupid premise and the writer has produced unreadable, emotional crap. Next...

SherlockXHetaliaXTeenTitans - offensively terrible and impossible to read. Next...

ZeldaXGanondorfXReader - Awesome! I get to have gay, PG-sex with Ganondorf? Just what I always NEVER wanted! Next...

(and this continues into eternity)
All of this is just my opinion, and based on MY particular tastes. I realise not all will agree
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Prongslette Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
*stares* I don't do any of those things except the fact that English isn't my native language, lmao, but my native language is even worse so *shot*
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Fianna2016 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
I don't do x readers,i keep my character in ONLY one pov,is it okay?
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Jokerfan79 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2018  Student General Artist
My fan-fiction started out like shit on its first draft until I was told by one of my viewers that there were tons of grammar mistakes and everything so I went through the whole first chapter and fixed it up I'm still improving too

by the way who here would like to check it out.
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JessBGarcia Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2018
My main language is not English (I thank Chrome for translating pages), but I wanted to comment because in Latin America the same mistakes are made. 

Mainly xReader are horrible and teenagers consider them works of art. I do not understand how some girls enjoy phrases like "Gandalf touched the penis of _____ insert his name here ..."
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MintedMinx Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2018
I have said this before; XReaders are touchy. The majority are horrible, but if you write a real plot that goes with it and use an excellent writing style, you can actually pull the reader in pretty well, even if they are playing a role and being manipulated against their will.

Hell, I have read XReaders that are for only one gender (so I basically had to pretend I was male), but it was written so nicely that I was able to pretend and enjoy the whole thing. 

Being honest, out of the mountain of XReaders I have read, there has only been close to three at most that were amazing. That should tell you how complex it is to actually write a good XReader. 
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MintedMinx Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2018
I would say all of this is true, but I have read a trickle of XReader that was actually good. Lemme repeat; trickle. The rest is plotless smut garbage, and this is coming from a person that LIKES reading smut.

Yes, I like reading it. But I like reading GOOD smut. The majority are just stories that make sex objects out of a character with no real interesting plot to pull the reader in. 

Those subjects are very touchy (No pun intended) and if it's not done perfect it's bad all the way around. There's no in between.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
agreed
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zigaudrey Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a FanFiction.net account with only 21 stories to this day. And I will class the criteria to this list:

5) All of my stories are French, as my goal is to improve and express throught text form. I also use a dictionary of synonymous and read books to ressource my vocabulary bag. I cannot write English stories because it is terrible! French, my native language, need to be improve!

4) Ha, automatic writing... Fan are mostly write everything they think and never improve it. I admet, some of my fan-fictions are written from my automatic writing because I love what writing, being greatly influenced in poetry, metaphor-speaking. But after, I edit it to make it better. Automatic writing is my favorite thing, especially in studying but shouldn't be abused. Better pratice the machination before perfoming the step. Example:
MySims-Le Poète que ne souhaite pas être poète Being an "Expression Fan-Fiction", it got little modification because voice is important. It could have been better if I wasn't greatly influenced by poetry, according to Brendaniel. I could see a newer version!
Mon Petit Poney-Bijou de la Rose The first 3 quarts are automatically written, I took time on how I should put the ending.

3) Same as above. I re-read my story, send it to my family so they can read, correct it and it will done. I help myself by the same tool mentionned on the 5).

2) Oh boy, Emotion is the human nature but emotion are badly used in Romance... It's all about covering violent act. Like Rape, BDSM, Stockholm syndrom and UGH... That's enought, they don't know how to use Romance properly! They really think that ABUSE=LOVE. Man, does they love being abused?
And they are not ashamed of themself! That's why I hate writing romance and have to pratice this genre before starting. Even if I don't have a romantic experience, I have a negative look on this relationship. Worst, they use Suicide as a emotionall effect! It's a serious case!
I wrote just one story based on emotion (sadness) but is not romance.
Le Chat Potté-Le Temps a défait sa Pelotte Yet, it doesn't have plot! But it's based on Family relation, between the Hero and the Master, near their end of life (death of longevity)
But yeah, Emotion shouldn't be prioritize and that's an habit to lose.

1) X-Reader fan-fictions are the worst. It's all about fulfilling the reader pleasure over a fictional toy! I couldn't see my relatable character the same way as before... I never EVER will write them. Characters cannot please them! X-Reader is a big no-no.

Writing Fan-Fictions is hard, because we are using an universe that doesn't belongs to us. We don't have the right experience to use it properly. As Anne Rice compare it with puppet. The Fan-Fiction communauty is badly reputated for this cause.
Thus, I am very critic on their works and took it seriously. The polar opposite. Unlike them, I read, write and analyse. Isn't knowledge power?
Why are they ignoring their literacy lessons at school? Aren't they helpful to them?

Thoses bad writing question me about their psychology...
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sounds like you take it seriosuly, are improving, and have a good outlook on the human condition - good luck to you!
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zigaudrey Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh dear! I didn't know that was fast! Thank for the feedback! :D
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no worries - thanks for the well-thought-out comment :D
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xxxDreamingflowerxxx Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I totally get what you’re coming from. Also one thing I’d like to add to the list and that has been done over and over. Old tropes like high school AU middle age au and OCs who are practically carbon copies of each other.

All of them are practically the same to the point where I wanna drown myself or with I never clicked on the story. 

I’ve never been a fan of self inserts, reader inserts or OC  cuz it feels like a desperate attempt of the author to add themselves in an already nice fleshed out world with good characters that end up getting a huge downgrade because the writer never heard of the word: research or character analysis. 

Of all all the fics I’ve read and scammed through there have only need like 2 or 3 where I did like the OC that we’re made up for the stories, sadly those stories hardly get updated.

Nd lets not start about those fics with rape and Male pregnancy... smh
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Roos-Skywalker Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I once wrote an X-reader but it was made for a specific person, my boyfriend namely and tailored to his personality and traits. Things he would do. I published it online with the same disclaimer because I felt I actually did a pretty good job.
Would you be willing to review it?
It contains no sexual themes and it actually is an original story.
I love criticism when it helps me improve by not only pointing out what I did wrong but also pointing me in the direction of how to fix it.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 22, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
tbh i have NO problem with what you described: you love your bf, and you wrote a story about him. My main peeve is with fictional characters who arent gay being made gay lol, but sure fire me a link to your story, i'd like a look
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bond674 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2017
I enjoy Crossover stories far more than i enjoy stories made in a singular fiction realm, and for some reason there are far better stories on that end than on the end where there's only one fictional realm.
Although occasionally i find this one story where the summary is downright unreadable, and the reviews are for some insane reason praising the story. (I also go in to check out the story, after all it might be a gem, but it usually isn't.)

A Random Norwegian guy.
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xxxDreamingflowerxxx Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I’ve read some good crossovers. But the majority I’ve read were executed very badly. 

if there’s something I’ve learnt about fanfic, it’s dont trust reviews. The guys who read it have no brains for good story telling. (They praise all that has smut in it) It’s mostly the stories with the least reviews that are better. 
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bond674 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2018
Yeah the people who write reviews most of the time are mostly idiots, and they don't just praise smut stories they praise stories with bad grammar.

(hey whoa it's been a while since last i was on Deviantart.)
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xxxDreamingflowerxxx Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
Me too xD
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tokyo-lover2 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
What are you complaining about? You should be thankful to people of all nationalities who are doing their best in order to write in English which is the only language you can understand.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
THEY don't understand English though, so it makes their work near-to-unreadable.
I see that as a problem, and a waste of space tbh 
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zoommerfish Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This should be 6 reasons

#6 being "everything leads to smut"



I love GOOD fanfiction because it gives interesting head canon and allows for progression of a favorite show or book etc. but the bad ones are what kills me because it takes digging through so much crap to find the good few, and often the good few usually have no continuation leaving us on indefinite hiatus.

Alien/Predator fanfiction is filled with this and almost always has someone fucking the alien or jsut being this "chosen one" that is respected for some bullshit OP reason.

Ben 10 has about 90% of its fanfiction dominated by 3 mediocre writers with their bland OCs and family drama "plots", (that sadly reflect the terrible writing of sequel shows like AF and UA).

transformers is alright but is a mixed bag due to all the different iterations being mixed up.

Zootopia is just chockful of plotless furry smut

HTTYD is either OC's, bad rehashings of the tv series and smut, (sometimes interspecies and sometimes not), or AU's

I won't even talk about Harry Potter
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MegaDerpWithChese Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad to see I didn't fail at my unfinished story, I'm constantly rereading it and I'm going to have to learn Japanese to make sure I got some dialogue bits right. Also, words cannot describe how disgusted I feel when I see an X-Reader, title alone.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good to hear from someone who takes writing as it should be taken - an art that you constantly get better at
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Meiren808 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017
That moment when you realize...you write on Wattpad and Quotev, English isn't really your first language, and you write really crappy x-readers (kinda-ish)....hahahah THIS IS SO TRUE IT PRACTICALLY HURTS!!! Congrats on nailing the exact truth. AT LEAST Iʻm somewhat good at English? You know what? This deserves a follow.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
even tho it offended you? wow you have thick skin my man! :P
Respect!
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Meiren808 Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017
The hard truth is always the best, fam.
ALWAYS.
(^∇^)
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lmao - this is my fave comment on this
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Meiren808 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017
*claps*
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Grace-the-Ace Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm writing an x-reader fanfic on wattpad. It's not hard to understand, it's just shitty XD
Not that I didn't know that already...
Overall, excellent list, since I had no self esteem to begin with I came out unbruised lol
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol well any writing is good practice 
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Grace-the-Ace Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
TRue
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SilverShadow1711 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I clicked on this thinking, "oh god, is my writing style going to hit upon each of these subjects? Is THAT why I get no reviews?!" But after reading it twice (it's more compelling than a great deal of modern fanfiction, kudos), I've come to the sad conclusion that nowadays, people only want badly written smut one-shots. When I was in middle school, my favorite fanfics were the ones with 20+ chapters, that told deep, compelling stories, and judging by the legions of reviewers they had, it seemed that everone else loved those types of fics as well.

Now? Reader/This Character, Reader/ That Character, Plotless Porn Riddled With Spelling Errors... I had posted two fics to AO3 (I would never post to dA...)- one which was a multi-chapter saga about a soldier losing herself to the horrors of war that, once completed, had a higher word count than two Harry Potter books combined... And the other was a quickie I wrote about a yandere butler making out with a decaying corpse head because it was so stupid it made me laugh. Guess which one has the most reviews?
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
uuhhhh.... NOT the serious one? I'm guessing.
Yeah, idk whats wrong with ppl tbh lol
That's why i got so angry i wrote this in the first place.
Thanks for reading (twice) and giving your views buddy  :)
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AevonNaga Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Personally, I never submit my fanfics online. Mainly because I'm never happy with what I write or because I'm a complete baby when it comes to reading other people's opinion on it. However, the times when I write something that I do like, I will make damn sure no grammar or spelling mistakes are in it. English is my second language and I'm really good at it but even the best writer makes mistakes on a keyboard. About the 'x-reader' thing...I assume that's a fanfic where it's written from the reader's POV (correct me if I'm wrong)? I see a lot of short fanfics on Tumblr and I do enjoy those if they're well written. A novel-length one however...no, not really. But I prever a reader's POV over a first person's POV because with first person, I get the feeling like the author is trying to show off or something (no offense to anybody, The Hunger Games, The Fault in Our Stars and Red Queen are amazing books). But, I try to get over that, just like any fanfiction writer should. Modji-33, I think you explained wonderfully how a bad fanfic comes to be and this, among other things, really helps me further with writing my own. :)
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GothicMonocle Featured By Owner May 13, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Look, my first language may not be English, but I believe I have a decent grasp on the language. I mean, unless you don't understand a word I am saying.

In that case my whole ten years of English classes were a waste of my entire life. Oh joy! "D

But, yes, the rest of the awful fan-fiction signs are actually on-point.  "Bad Grammer and spellinf (oops typos im srry)" and "ALL CAPS STORIES" are also a running theme with bad fan-fiction. And most of the times I tried reading "X Reader" fanfics -mostly as a 'try not to cringe challenge' with my sister- the results would either be;

a) Me cringing to death 
or
b) The utter boredom of nothing happening for 10 chapters or so.

So, yeah... These things are enough to suck out your brain and replace it with stupid.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner May 13, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol this whole comment is hilarious. 
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GothicMonocle Featured By Owner May 13, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I am glad you found it funny >w>
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tooralooryeaye Featured By Owner May 6, 2017   Writer
Things like these are so many reasons why fanfiction is kind of a meh thing here on dA. Beyond editing (a bare minimum of one pass-through, I agree!) there seems to be no precedent for writers to use a beta. In my experience, it's easier for a visual artist to spot their mistakes before finalizing a piece and posting it; but writing is way more subjective and it's much easier to miss things--inflection, grammar, even plotting and characterization. Writers have to paint with words and it's a challenge. 
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modji-33 Featured By Owner May 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
....and in both cases the skill level shows-through lol
Well said, and i agree
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Leavhon Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017
Three things:
  •  I am guilty of point 5 and, in part, of point 3, because although I'm able to understand written English without any problems, I'm not excellent in writing it by myself.
  • Also I have a certain dislike of the word "X-reader", but hey, it's a free world, ignore them and move on.
  • You've earned a new watcher.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol glad u had a read anyway, sorry if it was offensive at all, i wrote this when i was newish to writing here on DA.

And awesome thx for watching! idk if i'll be doing any more "im pissed-off about this" articles tho lol
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Leavhon Featured By Owner Edited Mar 31, 2017
It wasn't offensive, but I fear that my written works have over some defect, not only the mediocre granmar (T_T)

Edit: I almost forgot,
I have been here because of your Numidium, then I saw the title of this text and ... my curiosity did the rest.
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Vashwhyssrs Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm guilty of number 3. It's not that I don't re-read what I write, I do, but no matter how many times I do I still find mistakes. 
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thats fine though - because YOU DO IT! YOU CHECK! It's when u can tell they havent that is really annoying. thx for your opinion too
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kildeez Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2017
Interesting point.  I guess it goes to show how different the fanfic community is from "normal" reader communities.  Quality, characterization, and depth isn't as big a deal in the fanfic community as it would be anywhere else, and I think that's a major problem.
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TheSwordLegion Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2017  Professional Writer
I agree, there is a huge difference. When I realized that I was writing fanfiction that was literally large and detailed enough to become an original novel, I swapped. I will be publishing my first original book here soon after working on it for two years, and figuring out how to Epublish all on my own.

When you look at what's popular regarding original works, it's the complete opposite of fanfiction so long you don't go into more adult oriented themes.

Major motion pictures strive to attain a G rating, that way they have the largest potential to grab viewers, entire families, and "offensive" content won't scare certain people off. When it comes to fanfiction, however, it's like treading a drug that people reach for because the vanilla lifestyle most of us have is too boring, and they want more stimulation.

Good point.
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kildeez Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2017
In a way, that makes fanfiction more freeing I suppose: none of that  pesky "marketability" gets in the way of the story.  Double-edged sword, that.
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modji-33 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
im gonna reply to this longer after work, very interesting take
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