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Havershaw's worst nightmare by MightyOtaking Havershaw's worst nightmare by MightyOtaking
Walter Tiberius Havershaw's an amazing bad guy. Not only does he have an evil British accent, he's going to do a lot of cool stuff in the fortcoming game, and the one after that.

HOWEVER... would he be as scary if he'd been drawn by a modern anime studio in Japan? The image speaks for itself.
Modern anime is, again, utter, utter shit. Sorry, but it really does look like crap. I had a Paradise Kiss screenshot open beside me as I "drew" (spewed onto the screen) this, and made sure I got just as much (little) shading as there was on that Paradise Kiss image.

And here's the result. If I was forced to draw this badly, I would cut my own guts open and die there and then, I swear.
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AuroraArtz Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*cough*madokamagica*cough*
*cough*ancienmagusbride*cough*
*cough*osommatsusan*cough*
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db-onriz Featured By Owner Edited Apr 1, 2018
To be honest it would be more fair if you used the 2006-2008 Hnk movies/OVAs as a reference for the image of the right:
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Hellstinger64 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional Filmographer
Back the there was an era that made such a big impact. The classic japanese animation's art was unique. And for an artist who wanted to emulate those amazing art styles was a real and satisfied challenge. Nowdays, it's just recycle bad art. Simplistic drawings and no shade finishings. What's the challenge now? Drawing cutests girls only? The New blood in anime industry just know how to draw cute kawaii moe girls and no less. See when they attempt to draw guys. Heroic ones. They look like the right example from the right. 

That crappy era of anime just takes forever. 
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GaugespaceGraphix Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2017  Professional General Artist
A great exception to this rule was Yu-Gi-Oh! The Yugi Saga. fuck all the yugioh crap that's come out in the last 7 years or so. the original blew alot of today's anime shows away. and then there was Shaman king.
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LeahPlainAndTallish Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is horrifying LOL.
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Sc4recroW1687 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Take a show like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and compare it's animation to Naruto and you'll get virtually the same results, 80's-90's anime looked way better than what we're getting now. Just compare DragonBall Z Buu Saga animation to the best DragonBall Super animation, even the most awkwardly drawn scenes of the Buu saga in DragonBall Z look better than DragonBall Super. It's not just the shading that's off, all modern anime uses cheap washed out colors and doesn't make use of varying line thickness, these three things put together create poor animation. Even the fight coreography doesn't look as good in modern anime.
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matrix2507 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2015
i gotta agree its pretty lame (and to everyone who says its invalid because he purposely drew badly the right one, i went to see for myself on google and i STILL believe the one on the left is better)
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Sven2k Featured By Owner Edited Mar 30, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Totally agree man! There are sadly only a few exceptions here and there.
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RyugaSSJ3 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
You are sooo the reason why I stick to retro anime. It just looks too badass compared to modern. Blurgh. 
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Cobra-Blade Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If anime still looked as good as you draw, I would probably still be an anime fan today.
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iminlovewithyu Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
I kinda agree with what you are saying because in my opinion older anime from the 80s and 90s did have more effort into it and it did have wonderful shading and i love how they drew eyes. however i seen lots of modern anime with art just as good or at least good enough,but i hate that plain look in anime such as paradise kiss honestly it looks terrible in both the anime and manga,and so far i havent seen a 2013 anime with art that appealed to me.
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MeisterFuchs Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Absolutelly YES. SO TRUE!!! Greetings and respect from Chile!!
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UahMarzuaAoatali Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student General Artist
The reason why I heavily lost interest in anime.

Boys are kissin' each other and stuff, everything sparkles and rainbows, female characters that are adults look like children, the plotlines are redundant. Isn't it so kawaii?
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stormsirens2 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
damn economy
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TheCosmicExplosion Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Student General Artist
Ok I have never seen an anime with drawing that bad even in images from random ones ill never watch
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Araiii Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
I agree. Modern anime (for the most part at least) is just g.a.r.b.a.g.e. looking. It's so bad I actually don't use the word "anime" anymore when talking about shows like Hokuto No Ken.
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TheCosmicExplosion Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Student General Artist
What the fuck anime have you been watchin
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Araiii Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2015
My friend, I have been watching anime since 1989. But to really answer your question, it depends on my mood. Some days I'll watch what nonsense is streaming like the Attack on Titan and some days I'll have none of that and will exclusively watch a classic like KiKi's delivery service. And some days I'll watch something in between like Durarara (it's got some nonsense deus ex machina but that doesn't mean it cannot be enjoyed for what it is.)

I'm gonna be honest with ya, my post was pretty hyperbolic and came from a place of frustration. It was pretty unnecessary and for that I'm officially accepting responsibility and apologizing for it. Most anime aren't garbage but it would be facetious to say that there aren't a lot of stinkers out there.

Sorry for the delayed response. I have a huge backlog of comments. @_@
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TheCosmicExplosion Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015  Student General Artist
With the two years extra experience of watching anime, I understand more where you are coming from. There are a large amount of anime with horrendous animation, but series like Hunter X Hunter and as you mentioned Durarara!!, have great animation. 

I understand, we've all made comments that come from anger rather than logic, similarly I will apologise for questioning you on your comment. 
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Araiii Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Thanks good sir. We all grow in personality, some have crappier ones to start with than others.
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TheCosmicExplosion Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015  Student General Artist
Wait, what?
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Araiii Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Thanks good sir. We all grow in personality, some have crappier ones to start with than others.
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tysonhesse Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I don't... understand.
Wouldn't it have proved your point better if you had done the one on the right WELL?

All this proves is that you can draw a bad picture in 18 minutes.
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Discovererman Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
I think the point was that he could mimic the style with relative ease in 18 minutes. I see where you're coming from, though.

Sometimes, while thinking about how cool Digimon is, I'll draw the children and realize how damn lazy they were doodling those youngsters.
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tysonhesse Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Right, but that's what I don't get. If that was the point then he missed it.
The one he did in 18 minutes looks like hell. Not because of the style but because he drew it poorly.
It shows that it takes more than 18 minutes to make a drawing in that style work.
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aspieomnipintent Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
cartoon animation just gets lazier and lazier
"should we draw this car?"
"nooo lets do it in cgi"
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skimlines Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Professional Artist
whoa there. that's too much work.
You can just have the character slide out of the frame, followed by a sound effect of a car door opening and shutting.

That should be good 'nuff
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jaredjlee Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL!
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aspieomnipintent Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012
yes maybe i got to carried away but todays standard of cartoon animation doesn't stand up to that of 20 years ago
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TheLadyDracula Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think maybe you should take two anime from the same genre. Fist is definitely a boys' cartoon while Paradise Kiss is a girl's cartoon. And to be completely honest, I thought the left one was from Yugi-Oh. :/ Unless it was a movie, 80's anime didn't have that much shading or highlights.
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Araiii Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2011
That depends on what you watch. AKIRA and Ghost in the shell BLOWS AWAY most of what's out nowadays. But when it comes to budgeting I respect that. What's ParadiseKiss's excuse?
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tysonhesse Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Paradise Kiss's excuse is that is a TV show and not a movie.

Also, it has roughly 1/20th of the budget of Akira or GitS.

Hurr.
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Araiii Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012
Hello there fellow. Great retort! One problem though: yer a bit late there buddy.

Late response is late and it's not a relevant argument to make anymore.

You want to make the response valid? 2011 is back THAT way. Let me know when you get a time machine. I'll be waiting at Feb 2011. :)
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tysonhesse Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, did your statement get any less ill-informed as the years went on?
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Araiii Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
Again, I point you to 2011. It's right over "there." Feel free to ask Past-Me that question. I'll be happy to ask.

My current-self, on the other hand, is amused that someone actually responded to a one-year old statement. It's downright hysterical, actually.

Also, correction: a "year" has passed. Not two, or three, or four. But one. Thank you. I'll see you in March 2011 I suppose.
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TheLadyDracula Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've never watched it or looked into it, so I couldn't tell you. Doesn't change the fact that you are comparing two separate genres. That's like comparing Queen to the Wu Tang Clan, it just doesn't work that way. Alls I was trying to say is that it may be better if you used two anime from the same genre you may not get so much flak for it. :S
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Araiii Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2011
People have been using that excuse for ages. I can't be bothered with separating two supposedly different "genres" when they are simply demographics. I'm more concerned with the quality of the show's story telling versus it's quality of design and animation. And what I mean by design I mean how thought out it is. After watching anime for over 20 years it becomes rather evident what's a lazy design and what's a well thought out one.
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TheLadyDracula Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mayhaps if you said that in your artist's comments then people wouldn't be suggesting you compare two anime of the same genre. :/
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Araiii Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011
O_o? I just did though.
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TheLadyDracula Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Right, but not in the artist's comments. Or I missed it, or something. :lol:
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Wessoman Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
You know, normally I would agree with you, being an "oldfag" and everything -- but Paradise Kiss, really? I thought the art for that was pretty good overall. Especially considering that the character designs were done by Nobuteru Yuki, the same guy who did Escaflowne, Gunnm (Battle Angel Alita), Five Star Stories, etc. Are you really sure you want to diss a veteran character designer like him? Really? (BTW if you hadn't told me that you referenced a screenshot in Paradise Kiss, I never would've known from that shitty drawing you did, since it was obviously done on purpose to look like shit.)
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Insan-Kun Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2010
I suck at shading... any tips?
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Chocorroles Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009
I have to disagree on this...

First, you pic a shojo anime against an action shonen one, I think I don't need to explain but a good comparison would be with Afro Samurai, or use Candy Candy in the before.

Second, you don't even put effort on the 2005 drawing.

And at last, modern anime and old anime differences don't exist, style depends on the public and story, just look those examples of +2000 anime:

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Imposible to say wich one looks better.
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noncannonfireworks Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2009  Student Artist
HOKUUUUTTTOOO NOOOOO KEEEENNN!!!!!

i dont really care about anime but you should see how epicly the manga is drawn and written
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General-RADIX Featured By Owner May 21, 2009
I think the ease of using computers to animate led to all this off-model artwork in the anime industry. Also seems that the default female model for the worst studios is loli, but that's irrelevant.
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ladyrenozenth Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009
I do still like the 80's anime the most~ Plastic Little!

What I'm impressed with the most, is the amount of detail in the background of the 'modern style' version. Did that type of show really have that detailed a bg? Though I admit, it'd be easier to copypasta the bg from what you did in the 80's version.

Ne, have you seen the animation Shangri-La that's been airing recently? That show's animation is pretty good. The backgrounds are so~!
Also, the bgs on Guin Saga are nice, and the action is pretty easy to follow, compared to many recent examples. Music is decent in both of these shows, too...

Sorry if I'm ranting on things of no interest.
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Rakugaki-otoko Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree. They dont make it like they used to.
I suppose companies nowadays are focusing more on deadlines/budget instead of quality.
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levonn78 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I hope my stuff isn't look at as crap. I don't think I use a style like that though. My style is a hybrid of things...
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RyugaSSJ3 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Same here dude. Same here. Sorry,a little too late to reply,hehe.
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