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Image Tutorial - Apophysis JF by MichaelFaber Image Tutorial - Apophysis JF by MichaelFaber
This tutorial guides though importing images into =JoelFaber's latest apophysis hack in full colour.

Let me know if you have any other questions :)

Thanks to Joel for proofing it for me!



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This is the script I refer to in the tutorial:

Flame.Gradient[0][0] := 255;
Flame.Gradient[0][1] := 0;
Flame.Gradient[0][2] := 0;

Flame.Gradient[1][0] := 0;
Flame.Gradient[1][1] := 255;
Flame.Gradient[1][2] := 0;

Flame.Gradient[2][0] := 0;
Flame.Gradient[2][1] := 0;
Flame.Gradient[2][2] := 255;
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:icondruariel:
DruAriel Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010
Hello Mr Faber. I wonder if you could repost this tutorial image as there is no other source for this info and your picture is no longer visible?
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Lupsiberg Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much for sharing :bow: :)
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StarTrekOmega Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I've got GIMP 2.6. could you help me with the tut on how to do it in that version please?
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baba49 Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just remembered the great Apophysis 2.04-JF2b and made a new fractal [link] using the image variation. I was very glad to have your tutorial as I had forgotten how to embed the image. Thank you very much :bow:
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darkzero901 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2009
Where can I get Aphophysis Image?
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2009
There has not been development on the Image hack for a long time. It looks like `JoelFaber's hosting by his old school has closed the page. I do not have the hack anymore. Try going to #Aposhack and see if anyone has it.
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darkzero901 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
Hey, what's the best way to get high quality fractals in apo?

I do 3200X2400 so it can resize to my 1280X1024 desktop on a quality of 10000 I tried both oversampling 4 and 1 but see little difference. Filter radius is standard; don't know what it does.

Thanks!
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
Oversample works best set to 2. Anything greater is overkill and unneeded. However, since you are scaling it down yourself, you could get away with Oversample = 1.

Oversample is how much larger the image is actually rendered. If you render at 3200 x 2400 and use oversample = 2, the program is rendering it at 6400 x 4800.

Filter radius is a setting for the Gaussian blur that is applied to the oversampled render. It is essentially the same as a photoshop Gaussian blur filter, which also has a setting for radius. This filter is applied to the 6400 x 4800 completed render to blur it. After this filter is applied, the system scales it down.

This combination of rendering larger, blurring, then scaling is to get rid of jagged edges. This is what you are doing in your graphics program by scaling it smaller.

The over sampling does not reduce grain or make the image look smoother (other than getting rid of jagged edges).

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The Quality setting affects how long Apophysis processes the date for. The higher the Quality, the higher more processing it does. This does effect the smoothness of the render.

Typical Quality settings are between 500-4000. Typically if you do not using any of the Blur variations, you do not need as much Quality (500 - 2000). Images with Blur in them can be rendered higher (2000 - 4000). However, 4000 is still very high.

If you are rendering at 10,000 and still have grain, there is something else wrong. For starters, some tutorials out there tell you to decrease the Zoom setting on the adjust window. I suggest keeping Zoom set to 0, as it does scale the Quality considerably. Please use the Master Scale instead.

The next thing to take note of is how much of the fractal is being cropped out of the window. If you crop out a lot of the image, then most of the data that apophysis processes is thrown out as it is outside the bounds of the image.

Something else you can look into is if there is a really bright spot somewhere. If there is something very bright, a lot of apophysis' processing goes into that one area, leaving the rest grainy.

Hope that helps.
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Isis44 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2009
This is a great explanation of settings for high quality fractal rendering. Many thanks for putting it in layman's terms.
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darkzero901 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2009
Thank you very much.
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darkzero901 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2009
Nevermind I got the program. I am having trouble getting anything to show up. I follow all your steps, and they all make sense... but for some reasons Apophysis shows nothing, either random white pixels or a single pixel in the black backround. I am importing the images in a .jpg format (100 quality).
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artisun1 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
I am brand new to Apophysis. I've been playing w/ the "getting started" tutorial & am ready to move on.
I am in awe of your work!
I can't find your version w/ image capabilities & what ever else I will need to explore.
Thanks so much
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
The version of apophysis that has image capabilities was made by `JoelFaber. I am not sure if it is available online any more. I suggest using the latest official version here [link]
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artisun1 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
Apophysis208_3Dhack.exe Mirror
& Apophysis208_3Dhack_src.7z
or 2.08 beta which I have.
Which will I need?
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
if you have the latest 2.08, then you're good :)

You can get lots of help from people in #Aposhack
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DinkydauSet Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for this!
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zweeZwyy Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007
This looks like the quantum leap into unlimited potentiality.

Searched & searched for the Joel Faber Apo version you refer to, but can't find it. It's not 205b2z+c is it? If so that link is dead.

Obviously others have it working, maybe it works on 3D Hack or 2.07?

I'll do the tut & probably answer my own question.

Thanks for this, the most exciting thing I've found for yonks.
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:iconmichaelfaber:
MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007
you can get all the download info from joel's old journal here: [link]
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filedebop Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's a big help, thanks for sharing.
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Morrikan Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2006
Great tutorial! now i have to go download gimp -.-
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Cheyanne88 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
hon I don't use gimp what would I need to do in PSP or PSCS2??
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2006
PSCS2: The histogram data can be found in the 'histogram' tab in the same little window as the 'navigator'. to split the image into the red blue and green channels, go to the 'channels' tab in the same window as the 'layers'. hit the little button at the top right, and select 'split channels' from the menu.
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Cheyanne88 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you so much eventually I'll get it right :D
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xSoulxFirex Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2006
How are you able to edit the gradiant with code?
In the script?
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:iconmichaelfaber:
MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2006
the code changes the gradient. copy it, and paste it into the script engine in apophysis, and press the play button. the first three positions in the gradient will change to red, greeen and blue respectively.
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LeonieZurakowsky Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2006   Digital Artist
incredible!!!! :D
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samsende Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2006
thank you for this, i enjoyed following it and found it easy and fun. thanks :)
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Croidin Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2006   Digital Artist
Hey Michael,

I still have to upload a couple of my latest attempts to my gallery here, but erh... i wanted to let you one thing i figured out myself ;)

As i could not really get the colors showing as well as you had the colors showing on your tut-image, i tried the following:
I thought, in your tut, you meant for the means (after doing the maths :lmao:) to be added positive, so on another attempt i tried adding them in the negative (e.g. red -0.3862, green -0.3310 and blue -0.2828 (for a yellowish kind of result)... and voilá... i got better colors :D

I'm not sure if i read your tut incorrect, but even after reading it again, i still thought you meant for them to be added as positives... maybe you could change the tut, and have it say they need to be negatives too, like the initial entries as -1 each? ;)

The 4th variation (if you want to add something to it) needs to be +1... but not the image ones.
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2006
the weights can actually only be positive. there are no negative weights. the symmetry on the three image transforms should be set to -1. make sure you use the script provided that changes the first three gradient locations. then set the colour on all three transforms. the symmetry on the other transforms should be +1 if you want the colour of your image to be preserved.
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Croidin Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2006   Digital Artist
oh, okay... i think i was putting the weights in place of the symmetries ;P

it does work, the way i did it... but yes... up to a little bit :crazy:

Thanks for your reply, Michael.

Joeri.
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unafraidsage Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2006
Thanks alot for this tut. I will be trying this out later!
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esintu Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this is awesome.. I couldn't find the same feature in PS and I'll download Gimp shortly.. I'll definitely have to create time to play with the image variation.. :roll:
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2006
i just got ps. it has everthing and more. what version do you have?
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:iconesintu:
esintu Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the latest.. cs2 i believe.. i'm sure it has the functions, i just couldn't find them.. perhaps the names are different :shrug:
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2006
there should be a little window with 'layers', 'channels' and 'paths' tabs. go to the channels tab and click the little button on the far right. select 'split channels' from the list. you will now have one separate image for each channel.

the histogram is in another window with the 'navigator' and 'info'.
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esintu Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ugh! ok, i really appreciate that, thanks! :hug:
gimp is quite riddiculous with all those separate windows and all, I'll really enjoy creating channeled images (that I can't quite make nice fractals out of yet :D) in Photoshop.. :w00t:
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2006
ps is cool. i just got it :)
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Zueuk Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hmmm. looks like the user must do lots of routine work :disbelief: this is not good - got to teach the program to do all this ;)
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006
:nod: That would be awesome
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:iconcroidin:
Croidin Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006   Digital Artist
Great looking tut, Michael :thumbsup:

Now i only have got to find some extra hours in my day, so i can give it a good try ;P :rofl:
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cgImagery Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006   Interface Designer
u kno. as much as i lov u for doin these things
throwing out ur secrets isn't always good =P
nice tut too though :#1:
:worship:
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006
secrets are cheap. it's the ideas that are hard to come by
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cgImagery Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006   Interface Designer
but that's my point. i like the idea of ppl givin out their ideas. sometimes it helps you learn. but w/ppl like u and zueuk and ur brother and others. it's like u say it and ppl just do what u do. idk i'm just like that
but still keep up the great work :worship:
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cmptrwhz Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006  Hobbyist Digital Artist
excellent tut.
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nemopaice Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006  Hobbyist
Very nice tutorial. I guess I learn something every day. I didn't now about the -1 to get rid of color blending. This is going to be VERY helpful on any future renders of mine. Thanks :)
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Phoenix-22 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006
Looks pretty good, very informative and easy to follow.

I'm surprised you used Gimp though, you of all people I would imagine have Photoshop.
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MichaelFaber Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006
:) Just came in today
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Phoenix-22 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2006
:dance:
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cyberxaos Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006
What an informative and clear tutorial! Thanks :thumbsup:
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silwenka Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
I was wondering if it is possible ..to make such thing.. import image and tweak it..
wonderful work.. I am amazed!
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