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More Information As to How to Deal With Art Theft

Journal Entry: Fri Aug 29, 2014, 6:54 PM
The following links deal with some very interesting ways to deal with art theft - well worth looking at:



*Help, I've Been Infringed: this gives advice, steps, and options as to how you can deal with your art theft.

www.photoattorney.com/2009/05/…



*Why You Should Add Metadata to your photos:

www.photoattorney.com/2008/10/…



*Where do I put my copyright notice?


www.photoattorney.com/2009/02/…





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**Update: This seems to have disappeared! When I checked the link, a cute octopus illustration and foreign lettering show up. This one was particularly annoying as 
the guy replaced my signature with his own and was bragging about my work as if it was his.
He even renamed it 'Decay and Despair'. I'm not sure how this was taken down, but I'm very glad that it was.


hpikabu.ru/story/tlen_i_bezyisk….



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www.motifake.com/forestate-dar…   


**Update: This seems to have disappeared as well. Apparently  it was because of the  emails with screenshot of the poster and link to my photo  and a copy of it complaining of copyright infringement. I received a response to my email, from a site administrator, that it was deleted. I sent those emails to administrative addresses I found with 'who is'  www.whois.net/   for the website. I used some of the steps outlined in the first link listed above titled 'Help, I've Been Infringed'. I also had filed a copyright complaint on the site several days ago and heard nothing. That apparently was a wasted effort. I tried to explain to the guy that made the poster about how it was copyrighted and it was stolen and why he should take it down.  I was met with a rude and obnoxious attitude from him and his friends. They were all very rude to me and acted like I was a horrible person. One of the friends, who is a member of DA, told me I was just looking for attention and 'fodder' for my journal. The last thing the guy who made the poster said to me was 'lamo' and I responded 'For now'.  I really tried to explain to him and his friends why it was wrong and should be taken down. They either just didn't get it or care. It's really a shame that he had to be forced to take it down. It would have been so much better if he had at least considered what I was saying to him and behaved in a reasonable manner. He could have even researched it himself, if he didn't believe me. Instead he was rude and obnoxious, supported by his rude friends, and didn't care. I wonder if he will consider the copyrights of material he uses in the future or be in denial and just think I'm a witch.







***Well here's an update: All of the people I've talked to in Dubai have been very nice. They pulled the ad immediately. The person who designed this ad for them is in the UK! Worse than that he used it again for another promotion for the same business and I found it last night. After I sent a second email to the web page displaying it and the business using it I received an immediate response telling me about the designer. As a designer, he knows full well about copyrights and model releases. He was cc on my email to the business and I've just sent him one as well, demanding payment for use of my image and photo in both ads and if not, it will have to go through the courts in the UK. 


I guess I'm convinced more than ever that taking action and fighting art theft wherever you can is important. 



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:iconcopper9lives:
copper9lives Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Professional General Artist
Go, Peggy, go! Thank you SO much for sharing this important information!!!
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:iconmetal-bender:
Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014   Photographer
Ha - thanks Catherine! You're very welcome!
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naikki Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
I've sent you a note and I'm sending a big applause here also, for all that you are doing! :hug:
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014   Photographer
Thank you so much Nikki!:hug:
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999-8-666 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Congratulations :)
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:iconmetal-bender:
Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Thank you very much Joe!
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999-8-666 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014   Photographer
My pleasure ;)
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xtcgm Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
Congratulations of your successes.  I'm glad your battle is paying off.  Will DA do anythig about the member here?  They are notoriously unwilling to address art theft.
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Thank you very much Allen! Well, it's a bit uphill but I'm getting there. I don't know if that person is an art thief - he didn't make the poster. He is a vocal supporter of the guy who used my photo and saw nothing wrong with what the guy did. It seems that way.
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FabioKeiner Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
to me it seemed rather, that 'the vocal supporter' is another fake alias of the art thief himself :))
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
I don't think so, their way of expressing themselves seemed very different - I could be wrong.
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Trippy4U Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
:clap:
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:iconmetal-bender:
Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Thank you very much Richard!
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FabioKeiner Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
the whole case(s) is the more shameful for the thieves, as there are (for years and years) special sites/communities on the net, where you can get images for free, entire libraries and galleries (of renowned museums) without any copyright - or you could buy stock photos of the most diverse content (also here at dA) - so if, anybody feels the artistic urge to produce a poster/collage/reworked new version, there would be plenty of material to rely on without stealing pictures of others!
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as we debated some time ago about pollution and 'doomsday wheather' caused by global warming, which in its turn is caused by human reckless plundering of ressources... peggy, I think those (widespread) behaviour of stealing consciously intellectual property of other persons is one of the signs of the same mis-behaviour: plundering recklessly ressources you can get...
you answered then to my arguments (why people won't drive e-cars, e.g.) 'we americans are hard working people and many cannot afford to buy a more expansive car and we cannot go back to hard times when 'the west was won'...
exactly the same reasoning your image-thief at pikabu or vk may answer to you: I am a hard-working perso and got no money to buy a stock-photo and cannot go back to hard former (soviet times) when one had to make his art(work) all by himself.
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Oh, I know they let you have really good copyright free photos at no cost. There are lots of low cost stock available as well. There is no excuse. They see an image, they like it, they use it and don't care if it's copyrighted. Worse than that, I just found out my image and photo was used by a designer in the UK for ads for a business in Dubai. The Dubai business gave me his email address and pulled the ad. This designer definitely knows better than to use a copyrighted photo, especially without a model release. He used my image and photo for an ad couple of years ago too. He was paid for it. What a jerk. If he doesn't pay me it will have to go through the courts in the UK.

I guess there will always be thieves and immoral people. 

Well, it's not just that sort Fabio. I'm sure that designer gets good money from clients like the nightclub in Dubai. It's just greed and stupidity. Also, they probably think no one will find out as the internet is so vast.
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Nigel-Kell Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm glad you're getting some results, even if in a slightly mysterious way!
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:iconmetal-bender:
Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Thank you so much Nigel!
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FabioKeiner Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
if any copyright infringer or picture thief is also here at dA you should tell us his dA-nick, so we could check whether there are other thefts committed and if we in case of repeating his theft, we could nail him/her right here, too.
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I fear, if those poeple would have a clear notion what copyright and image theft means, they would not commit it so easily. - hence their rude and shameless reactions. the case is complicated furthermore, as some of the sites you indicated seem to be created explicitely with the aim of collecting noteworthy images from the web (which in itself is nothing bad - provided the collectors ask before for permission and state clearly who is the author of the picture. others are sites (like demotivaciones.es) where the users take a ('found') picture and provide a suting motto (also 'found':)) by themselves - so they may consider the entire posting as 'their' 'intellctual work' :))) - once again, if they asked before and wre given permission, it would be alright in my opinion.

ABSOLUTELY impropriate and criminal is the case where the thief deletes the copyright text and replaces it with his/her name/pseudonym - this clearly indicates that they do/did it consciously and with bad will.

there should be a growing consciousness about, that not only individual thieves, but entire webn-sites /art communities who tolerate or even support image/copyright theft should be accused, sued, and banned... in some european countries this was legislated and executed in some cases - but only on begalf and in favour of music companies!
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Well I don't know if he is an art thief - he wasn't the person who used my stolen photo for the poster. He was a very vocal supporter of that person and saw nothing wrong with what he did.

I'm not so sure after finding out that a professional designer in the UK did that to me. I would hope that nonprofessionals would be more careful if they knew better - obviously that designer knows full well about copyrights and model releases. Yeah, I find the whole notion of that sort of thing odd and wonder what's the purpose of the collecting. My stuff is all over the place on those sites and I've only been asked twice. Lots of my stuff is being used with poetry and such on inspirational sites and I've never been asked permission. They seem to think that because it's not for sale, that it's ok.

That's happened to me and it really makes me mad. It shows they know what they're doing is wrong.

Very true. The amount of ignorance I've been encountering is staggering. They really don't get it, don't care, and don't want to hear about it. All they know is that I'm messing up their fun and think I'm mean.  Well the good thing about that is it at least sets a precedence that can be used for argument in court cases as music is an art form.
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sesam-is-open Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
These are wonderful news and thank you for let us know.:hug:
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014   Photographer
Thank you so much Selina! I will for sure!:hug:
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sesam-is-open Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014
:tighthug::rose:
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Metal-Bender Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014   Photographer
:hug:
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