She was a sister ship to the Arizona, and built well before WWII. (Note the lack of radar, which was a feature of all Navy ships built during the war, even in smaller ships like escort vessels.)
USS Arizona was a Pennsylvania class battleship, not the Nevada class. Further more, Almost every US ships including destroyers and older battleships were fitted with Radar and ballistic computers after Pearl Harbor. By 1943-44, US not only had the most ships with radar and FCS but they best ones in the world.
I knew that some ships had been retrofitted with Radar, but did not realize that USS Nevada was one of them. I also thought of the action off Savo Island, a night action before many of the smaller sips had been so equipped, and one not favourable to the USA as a result.
It wouldn't of mattered rather they had radar at that time as Callaghan could of used one of his 5 ships with the new SG radar at the front and have it as his flagship but he didn't. It's not like they didn't get Radar, he just didn't choose to use them. If you have every ship mounted, you are like forcing him to use it. Which in my opinion is really funny because it's like purposely refusing to use something of advantage that you have to be forced to.
And even if he did, they couldn't get visual confirmation. What was being reported was ships beyond visual sight, but he was busy trying to confirm what the radar detected with visual sight due to poor information handling. Either way, the radar would make no difference.
The battleship was repaint after attack (1942 standard). Even white false-bow wave disappeared... Fire damage could destroy a paint, but not make STS or MS / HTS steel to be white (it should be dark grey). Here is painting sheme on both sides of superstructute (navigation bridge):
The reasons I ask so many questions are because I've been studying the attack on Pearl Harbor and the battleships there for years and yours is the first I've ever seen with the white on the bridge/superstructure. The fact that this white color only shows up in certain pictures and only when the ship is at a certain angle leads me to believe(and others I've consulted with) to believe it is just fire damage and it looks like that because of the way the sun is hitting it. I noticed a couple other inaccuracies in the drawing for the 1941 time period you are depicting that I could help you correct too, if you would like. Again your artistic skills are excellent and I thank you for sharing them with us.
All kind of help will be very greatly appreciated. However, I must note at the start, that this drawing is already VERY old. I'm prepareing a new one now. Last time I published a three-part technical and analytical article about Pennsylvania class battleships. You can see some of drawings in my gallery. I will have my personal website (new, modern version) soon, so there will be more of my works there.
Hey, we will all be very interested in looking at the new drawings and website. It's true that the drawing is old and it only goes to show how the internet is so large we don't always bump into each other. Either way we are all learning quite a bit right now, and that's great.
If my research of the battleships construction or drawings bring me some meaningful profits, I would take this subject seriously, but for now it is only an occasionally work. After all, the premiere of my website will be very soon and there will be a gallery of some yet unpublished drawings.
hey very good battleship but do you have of the battleship west virginia in her original design? because it my favorite battleship that had severly damage and officialy sanked at pearl harbor that took 6 torpedo hits and several bomb hits llike 3 hits possibly and in the movie tora tora tora the wee vee was the second battleship that recieved torpedo hits at the beginning of the raid like what happen in reality and i prefer her in her original design and should be a museum ship could have been.
West Virginia - 9 torpedo hits, 2 bombs 800 kg abd 5 fire bombs 60 kg. Old resources told about 6-7 torpedo hits but it was too little for the Colorado class battleship and was banished long ago by Bureau of Ships raports from floating drydock Pearl Harbor. I have a general drawing of USS West Virginia, but I must scan it, because I drow it on paper...
The WWI battlecruiser sinkings at Jutland displayed two different theories of BattleCruiser development. The British made them faster with bigger guns, but less armour, while to the Germans they were meant to fit into the battle line, with thicker, better armour than the British. One basic German advantage was slightly superior shells, due to better metallurgy, and a better explosive. Thus, the British BC's were more vulnerable to magazine damage. A German BC could take damage like a Battleship. The lead three German BC's all took over twenty major hits, and only one sank, 'Lutzow'. However, "Seydlitz' would also have sunk if it had had to travel as far to its base as the British fleet did to theirs.
i was watching trinity and beyond again yesterday (i recorded it on tivo) and it showed the nevda afer the baker blast and she was a wreck more or less
As you see, damages are minor to a combat systems and moderate to others.
Admiral Blandy gives his version of the Nevada in the Bikini test by saying that he had seen more damage to ships done by Kamikaze attacks during war.
Aboard USS "nevada" there was:
1. No flooding.
2. No fire.
3. No armour damage.
4. No combat damage (turrets, fire control, conning tower, CIC, propulsion etc.)
5. No radioactive polution inside the ship around armoured citadel.
6. All radar antennas destroyed or heavy damaged.
7. Moderate damage to shipping chimney.
8. Some minor damages on superstructure.
9. Burned paint and wood-teak deck.
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And even if he did, they couldn't get visual confirmation. What was being reported was ships beyond visual sight, but he was busy trying to confirm what the radar detected with visual sight due to poor information handling. Either way, the radar would make no difference.
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It looks more like fire damage to me. The drawing is great, I'm not saying it isn't I was just curious about your color choice. Thanks
Even white false-bow wave disappeared...
Fire damage could destroy a paint, but not make STS or MS / HTS steel to be white (it should be dark grey).
Here is painting sheme on both sides of superstructute (navigation bridge):
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All kind of help will be very greatly appreciated.
However, I must note at the start, that this drawing is already VERY old.
I'm prepareing a new one now.
Last time I published a three-part technical and analytical article about Pennsylvania class battleships. You can see some of drawings in my gallery.
I will have my personal website (new, modern version) soon, so there will be more of my works there.
Old resources told about 6-7 torpedo hits but it was too little for the Colorado class battleship and was banished long ago by Bureau of Ships raports from floating drydock Pearl Harbor.
I have a general drawing of USS West Virginia, but I must scan it, because I drow it on paper...
- Queen Marry
- Indefatigable
- Invincible (first of battlecruisers type!)
- Lutzof
One basic German advantage was slightly superior shells, due to better metallurgy, and a better explosive.
Thus, the British BC's were more vulnerable to magazine damage. A German BC could take damage like a Battleship. The lead three German BC's all took over twenty major hits, and only one sank, 'Lutzow'. However, "Seydlitz' would also have sunk if it had had to travel as far to its base as the British fleet did to theirs.
For first US BB I need plans...
As you see, damages are minor to a combat systems and moderate to others.
Admiral Blandy gives his version of the Nevada in the Bikini test by saying that he had seen more damage to ships done by Kamikaze attacks during war.
Aboard USS "nevada" there was:
1. No flooding.
2. No fire.
3. No armour damage.
4. No combat damage (turrets, fire control, conning tower, CIC, propulsion etc.)
5. No radioactive polution inside the ship around armoured citadel.
6. All radar antennas destroyed or heavy damaged.
7. Moderate damage to shipping chimney.
8. Some minor damages on superstructure.
9. Burned paint and wood-teak deck.