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The Pageview Fraud, PLEASE READ!

Thu Feb 10, 2011, 3:11 PM




Hi there!

This is important for everyone to know. A few months back some people started to have insanely high pageviews and we wondered how that can be. Well, it's incredibly easy, those people are running a simple php script called a "bot" to manipulate the DeviantART pageview counter. Well, if people can polish their self esteem with it, fine. But now something else is going on with those pageview bots. Some very clever people now offer pageviews for points and real money and you know what? PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO THAT!!!

Deviants, are you really that blind? The page views you get are no actual page views, it's JUST A NUMBER without any real visitor coming to your page.

What is a bot?

A 'bot' is a simplified term for 'robot', it's a piece of software designed to complete tasks and / or simulate human activity. They are capable of performing these tasks at speeds that are simply impossible for people to do. There are many different types of bots and several types of common Internet bots that are called web crawlers or web spiders.

More details on What is a bot?


How it works:

You pay your points or send money to paypal and after a while the con merchant runs the script on your page. It costs him a few seconds and there you have your 1.000 or 10.000 or whatever page views in no time, depending what you payed for. Ok, now you have an increased number sitting on your pageview statistics, nothing more. No more visitors as usual have seen your art, nobody gave you favs or commented your art or watched you. It's just an ordinary number. So if you are really that desperate go on and spend your money for a number. It won't change anything for you but at least you got rid of your points or money.

But please be aware: The pageview merchants don't sell pageviews, they merely sell the ILLUSION OF PAGEVIEWS. I know what you really want is ATTENTION, RECOGNITION AND FEEDBACK. You will not find what you seek by paying someone for increasing your pageview counter.



To anyone who is offering or thinks about offering such a service like running a script for money: You think you are clever but what you do is fraud. I know you don't care but you distort the website statistics of whole DeviantART and destroy the meaning of it. As long as you are manipulating your own page or the page of others just for fun - fine. It may be annoying but it seems not to be against DA policy. But if you start selling automated use actions on this site to dewy eyed people - or in other words: making profit with the artlessness and foolishness of the people - that's abuse of the system. I know you think these pageview whores want it and you only give them what they want. But it's not true. People want ATTENTION! And that's not what you sell and you keep it  a secret what you really do.

To all others who still want more real pageviews come to me and I will help you to get REAL PAGEVIEWS! (=real visits of real people)  Just leave me a note. And if you STILL want to spend money for real attention please read alexiuss' journal, he gives away different kind of features for points. For example if you give him 5000 points he will post your painting in his gallery with a link to your own page! A feature that I have done occasionally myself but for free of course.

Please spread this journal and the associated News Article if you agree that this practice must be stopped!




Featured Artist of the Month

ChibiWorks was answering my call to ask for free pageviews so I selected her to be featured here in my journal and my profile page. Dana is doing very sweet little artisan craft thingies. But see for yourself and visit her page and leave some nice comments and favs! :D



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NefariousSovereign Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah im starting to think no ones an honest artist anymore....
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hck112 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I shall serve you for pageviews and artwork views for free. I take no shit point, watch or favor back.
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Rabban12 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2011   Photographer
I just had a page view merchant fave one of my deviations on my other account, I could not belive they actaully exist. They thrive only on the stupidity of people who think it means anything, and anyone with brains knows that page views do not equal skill in art or whatever, since most come form 12 yr old kids random faving pictures, adding random ppl to their watch or commenting pointless crap.
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ainq Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2011
what if i release the script i've been using? (i give lots of pageviews for free). would that decrease the importance of pageviews?
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surfender Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2011
how about taking pageviews off? all this proves that more pageviews doesn't equal good art. everybody thinks about his/her own pageviews. try to think about the artist you admire here on dA. would you not visit their page if it had less views? would you not like someones art just because it has 3 views and 1 fav? i'm not agaisnt favs and comments, but pageviews and llamas and all that other bullshit are just stupid. imagine if facebook had pageviews... that day wil be the end of the world.
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Cadillac-Blood Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now, no criticism here, but I saw someone selling pageviews a while back. At the time, I was curious about this phenomenon known as points for pageviews. It got my interest. Already, I had 63,000+ pageviews, and over 690 watchers (this took place about two months ago, and I currently have over 750 watchers) so I really didn't NEED the pageviews. But a user was doing this, and they had a disclaimer saying that it wasn't real people visiting. But because I was curious, and had 50 points from a commission I did, I decided to go for it and try it out. I donated the points and about an hour later, my pageviews went UP from 63,000+ to 69,000+ and I was astounded. In the long run, I was like, "the pageviews often play a factor in some people's recognition"... especially if you keep your stats hidden like I do. XD But It just astounded me how easily they did that. I won't do it again, but I will say that there's nothing wrong with it. Some people like enjoying the idea of being "deviantART-famous" in the way of pageviews. So, I say let them use their points for pageviews and make themselves feel even a little good. If it makes THEM happy, then let THEM do it. Don't wish to take away their happiness just because you dislike it, mm'kay? ^^
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ZeFlyingMuppet Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2011
some examples of VERY desperate people for pageviews: [link] and [link]
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surfender Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2011
you made me give them each one more pageview, lol
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ZeFlyingMuppet Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2011
oops im sorry xD
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Pharaoh-Ink Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011  Student Digital Artist
The pageviews are one thing- but have you seen the people who BUY favorites? It's the same principle- they pay someone points to go through their gallery and fave their work. Now that's just sad. XD Paying someone to like your art.
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Mew-Sumomo Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2011  Student General Artist
I wouldn't even buy REAL pageviews for real money.
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Violetessa Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2011
wow, da spar ich mir das geld lieber für "richtige" dinge ;D
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AlecsV Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
best option ever on deviantart:

Settings -> Personal -> Browsing -> UnTick See Pageviews


You also get a cool badge for doing this ;)
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WeisseEdelweiss Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I hear you. If people would do this, then this topic wouldn't exist.
If you don't like it, don't look.
I'd rather the cool badge if this offended me anyway. : )
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Professional General Artist
I know this option but I'd rather hide my own pageviews from others.
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AlecsV Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i think this option is also available, by hiding you're activity on the website
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Professional General Artist
Doesn't work. :no:
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Somebodylost Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011  Student Digital Artist
This really annoys me. The same with giving away favs. Well, I don't mind if someone to favs my work, but I want them to fav it because they liked it, not because they paid me or I paid them.
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scrattletrap Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm so glad I'm blind to pageviews.
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Drawing-Beast Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:no: these people are desperate
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GeraldII Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011
Great article and I agree with you. I would rather earn the views through people actually stopping by or through features. It is much more satisfying that way.
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basikoncept Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Professional
You can say that again. Kudos!
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GeraldII Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011
:highfive:
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jodipheonix Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011   General Artist
I've been hearing a lot lately about this whole " purchase pageviews for points " crap
really , I can understand there are pageview whores out there but it's totally what you said
it's better to have 1,000 or 10,000 ACTUAL PEOPLE viewing your page instead of just a number
ticked over by a bot that doesn't care , or see or feel anything about the art on the page.
rather ridiculous really.

and yep , I'd like more page views ... I'd even like more watchers!! but , I rather people
view my work , or watch me because they found me , seen me being promoted on someones
page that likes me and or my work .. I work too hard on my stuff ( good bad or indifferent )
for false pageviews I rather have it earned ( if that rant even made sense lol )
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CookiemagiK Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
making profit with the artlessness and foolishness of the people - that's abuse of the system
This happens all over the world, not just on dA :shrug: ...and the person has mentioned several times in comments and journals that he is not giving out actual pageviews and that it is all fake. So I think everyone who is paying him is already aware of that. If not, then they deserve it for not reading the rules.
People are obsessed with stats. There are a lot of online games where you can pay real money to upgrade your character. This is no different.
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Professional General Artist
It's true what you say. Anyway I believe all people deserve some help, many of them are still kids and sometimes even grateful for advice.
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MaryCapaldi Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
No, it would be silly to pay for pageviews like that. They don't mean anything! I watch someone because they're a good artist I want to follow, not because they have a big number on their page. If anything, I'm more inclined to watch less popular people because they tend to get much less feedback even though they deserve it just like anyone else.

I want actual people to see my work! Even though I've been unable to draw much for the past couple years, I still have other creative things that I put up to share with the deviantART community. It's no fun when people don't see your stuff, but paying for views doesn't do anything to fix that. I think anyone who actually does it doesn't understand what deviantART is really about.
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LoveIsLaw Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011
>.< That is so stupid. Seriously? I don't even care about views. (Okay, yes I do. XD) I'm grateful for what I have. I would NEVER pay for views. Real of fake. If they don't like my art, or well. I'll either practice more or wait for people that like what I do. *shrugs*
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Will3Style Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some ppl are just delusional if they honestly think 'faking' pageviews is going to do anything. I've worked hard for the views that I get, sort of lets me know how I'm doing as an artist and makes me strive to reach a bigger audience with my art.

Anyone caught doing this, should just have there pageviews removed to '0' and disabled all together......
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Maybe they will fool some people but first of all they fool themselves.
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Will3Style Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
very true. If that's the case for something so small..imagine how they live there life....has to be a real shame and waste of a life to do things like this.
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MissJamieBrown Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
it makes me angry. pageviews are not huge to me, but i like statistics, and I have worked to get my pageviews...

I want to know where is the gratification in getting false pageviews? yeah you may get a million views but how about faves? and comments? and most important - watchers? yeah those people that actually like your work...you know, the stuff that really matters? if you are going to keep track of anything it should be those. points for views in this manner is almost extortion of he site and its people. it does not benefit the site or deviant community in any way... it shouldnt be ok to use a bot for personal gain either. to say its ok is giving power to the pageview status ideal. i dont even like using get watchers because its almost an unearned pageview. if you make crap you make crap regardless of how many people see it. true success is in the feedback and self development.
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
What you say is exactly the point.
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basikoncept Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional
I honestly think those fake pageviews are useless. Personally, I'd leave those people who would "purchase" this illegal service for them to realize how stupid they are. Pageviews does not get you to the top, it doesn't give you commissioned works and it definitely won't put food on the table. Hard work, persistence, practice and skill on the other hand does.

Lastly, this may sound rude but they can have their "bragging rights" and pump up their ego with their bazillion pageviews but their work will still remain mediocre and good clients will never hire them.
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Sure thing.
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Poison-Stripes Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
*shakes head* Me, I've never gave a damn about pageviews and I never will. I just don't see what the whole deal is, though. I do think that it's completely ridiculous that someone would pay for fake ones. Oh sure, I want feedback and attention like any self-respecting artist does, but not at the cost of just to inflate my ego.
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celestepen1acww Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Pageviews don't mean a thing. Why are people doing this? It's empty satisfaction.
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Enough for some.
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celestepen1acww Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Which is the saddening thing...
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RejectAll-American Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
You know, is this really what people are sinking to?
This site is supposed to be about the art! Not how many numbers you can rack up in the corner of your profile. It's like these people who say "give me *insert points here* and I'll fave something!"
Really?
If you don't like something in my gallery, then I don't expect you to fave anything. You're right, people want attention, but selling pageviews just takes it to limits it shouldn't go to. If anything, they should be earned, not bought, and buying them only serves to inflate your ego slightly. It helps no one else, or makes anyone else think you're a better artist. And to be honest, if I ever found out that someone I watched was doing this, paying for shit like this, or promoting it, they'd be unwatched in a heartbeat because obviously their ego means more than than their art, or their fans. Pageviews have nothing to do with how good an artist you are. Sure, a lot of popular artists have millions of views, but there are just as many who are just as talented, if not more, who do not!
This sickens me. Really, it does. It's things like this that ruin the site, because it's turning it more and more into a popularity contest, not a place to make friends, post, and improve. :no:
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
I see that this really enrages you and I understand it. Also I agree with you totally. But don't let this shit getting you down. I wanted to clarify what is going on here and added a bit of sarcasm, too, but I don't expect that it will change anything at all.
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RejectAll-American Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Meh, more like makes me roll my eyes. Three years ago, this would have really surprised me. But now? I'm really not surprised. (No sarcasm to that). People now a days are so caught up in "keeping up with the Jones'" or being popular that they're willing to sink to this. First, it was tracing/re-coloring screenshots for attention *cough*Vampirella!*cough*, now it's buying fake views to make yourself feel like you're worth a shit.
Unfortunately, no, it probably won't change anything, but I would hope that DA would look at this and do some rule writing. :\
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Blood-and-Lace Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Student Artist
I don't understand why people care so much about pageviews. :( I should think the only thing that matters is the art.
I really could care less about pageviews, I'm just happy to show my art to the world and have people enjoy it. It really doesn't matter to me if I'm popular or not.
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
It's a delicate question. Maybe it has something to do with self esteem.
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hannahbelle1991 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Student General Artist
I sometimes wonder why people get so obsessed over a number that has nothing to do with how good an artist you are or aren't.
I'd take a comment or a +fav or a +watch any day over a few pageviews!
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Maybe because they have the wrong idea about it.
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SaraV-Art Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I bumped into someone that was doing this just yesterday, how did I find them? They faved one of my pics. It made me feel so special, I got a fav for FREE XD
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artorifreedom Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's rediculous, really...And I'm pretty sure that none of those who payed knew that the pageviews are totally fake. But even with this warning, I guess some ppl will continue paying, they now know that they're not real pageviews, but ppl who come in their pages don't, so the point is to make themselves look important to visitors.

Or they can just omprove their art...
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Lilyas Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Some of them actually did. They prefer to maintain the illusion rather to accept the truth. Everybody is entitled to do what they want.
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