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Giving a Critique by liiga Giving a Critique by liiga
This is the first part - out of measly two - on handling critiques. It's executed in my special home-brewn style, better known as "WHY, GOD, WHY?!" and hopefully will provide some useful insights along with a little chuckle.

Have fun!

Edit, 20.01.06.: Wow, a DD! A huge thanks to you, =Doubtful-Della and $Moonbeam13! :hug: Also, thanks a lot to everyone else who has commented, fav'ed or just viewed it. I really appreciate it!

Thanks to your handy suggestions, I've fixed a few typos and made other adjustments to the text. It's a real pity they took [link] info down (which I have now replaced with [link] link).
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Given 2006-01-20
Giving a Critique by =liiga is a well thought out and creatively executed tutorial with sound advice and great illustrations! Be sure to catch the second part Receiving a Critique ( Suggested by Doubtful-Della and Featured by Moonbeam13 )
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l33tn3rdz Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
an example of one of my styles is the Escher type stuff.
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morri85 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
Thank you for pointing it out to me. I thought already that I was stupid ^^'
I like how you did it, and I think the point"don't put your own personal taste first" is one of the points most overlooked, especially by teenagers . (I know a oekaki (Doodle board even)board where comments normally look like this:" the outlines aren't clean and this looks different to what it is supposed to look" kind a way. Disregarding whether the person there even wanted to know this.
I also don't like if there are people who criticise something , they aren't better at themselves, or just put comments in the room like ' You look like you don't know how to work with the given tools'
Without even mentioning what tools and how this could be changed if I wanted to know.
I am definitely not a good taker of critiques if I didn't ask for it.
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morri85 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
I may be totally stupid but where is this ?
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:iconliiga:
liiga Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
Click 'Download Image' in upper right.
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simonpark81 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
i cannot find anything to do with critiques here, what am i doing wrong please? i was brought here through
[link]
and was trying to learn exactly what critiques are and mean, but the links wont work for me or is it supposed to take me to something about creating the pepsi coke design? sorry, still trying to figure all this out..
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liiga Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011
Not sure where you found the pepsi coke design, but you can view this tutorial if you press the 'Download Image' button in upper right. :)
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Shroomkin Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
This has been chosen for my guide, dA's Guide to the Galaxy because it is superior in its category! You can find the guide in the links in my signature! Thank you! :D
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LauraDavies13 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2010
Fantastic :D thanks for taking the time and effort to create this! :D :D entertaining and informative :D
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Kikuneechan Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, beautiful! :clap:
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Airavel Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I love this, I did EVERYTHING it says to do..and yet the people are being immature and telling me to gtfo -.-
so I posted the link to your 'recieving a critique' tutorial (thanks for that btw)
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sevenofeleven Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2008
Great job with this.

A good balanced critique is an inventory of issues in an artwork. You are basically picking out the good stuff, so the artist does not have to fuss with that and the bad stuff which the artist has to fix.

So the balanced critique is not just showing the good stuff to keep the artist happy, you are basically saying this is good, do not fuss with that.
This allows the artist to focus on the problem areas and leave the good areas alone.

A negative review just lists the bad stuff and if the artist sees something thats not on the list, he or she is not sure if its a good thing or something the critiquer missed.

It would be helpful if the person giving the critique have some knowledge of the media that the artwork is made from. If the artist has a question on how to do something, its easier to give a useful answer.

This goes double if giving a critique of a digital 3d work.

Also the critiquer should hang around to answer questions, not just say something and walk away. If its a blind spot, it might take a bit of time to understand. I have had critiques in which I could not understand because the person that was giving them did not understand that I wanted more into and was not arguing with him.

Its important to be prepared to explain your critiques.
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lovestelly Featured By Owner May 6, 2008
Now if only everyone would read this upon joining dA. x3
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Luntary Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2008
Good work :aww:
it´s very interesting and useful, And i think that a lot people will read it. It´s a pity that it´snt in other languages.
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rowenabrennavart Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
I've been featured here [link]

Tell me if that's ok with you, if not I'll remove it right away ^-^ Thank you for doing this deviation!

Help to spread the word if you can! n_n Love,

Cris
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liiga Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2007
Woot, thanks for the feature! ^-^
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rowenabrennavart Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
you're welcome n_n
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blue-raccoon Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2007
uh,whats a critique?^^;
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:iconliiga:
liiga Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2007
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Axolotl-mafia Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Not only is this very helpful I think for others, It's really helpful for me personally for which I can hopefully apply my self and go that extra distance to find tutorial links etc for the artist needs them when they are asking for help with any specific project. :nod: I never really thought about doing that before, that was a great tip :3

It was very nice of you to make this, you deserved that Daily Deviation =D
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WhiteWingedDemon Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2007
very nice advice :3 i find nothing to critque XD *is shot for REALLY bad pun and bleeds on floor*
x_x thanks....
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2007  Professional Filmographer
I've encountered far too many people who use their observational talents to bash the work of other people, sometimes with the tagline "well I'm not gonna kiss your boots like SOME people" to justify their over-eager negativity. I won't defend a sycophant, but I hardly believe critique is all about making the other person cry. It's like being an art-bully (provoking people to incite negative reactions), instead of an honest art-friend (caring about the work and hoping to see it improve). These same people sometimes fancy themselves professional critiques and take pride in pointing out everyone else's faults, no matter whether they've great artistic skill or can't even draw a circle. Like climbing a hill of fallen bodies to proclaim yourself King of the Hill at the top.

I think those people could learn a lot from this tutorial, at least enough to know what defines "critique".
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smilie-terrorist Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2007
A great critique guide, with hilarious illustrations! I love the one about not "wow"ing the artist too much, the illustration for it just cracked me up XDDD
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Netbug009 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2007  Professional Writer
This is fantastic, and the little cartoon characters make it fun. Great work. ^^
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RaimeiThunderChild Featured By Owner May 5, 2007  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Bahahaa!!! :P I love the not-chibis. They're so... simply informative! :D I think this will help me a lot - I know I'm not the greatest critic.... >< so thanks!

:heart: Raimei
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HeLLKaTSTaRKiTTy Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2007
Both critiquing tutorials that you made were so very helpful! After reading them, I feel as though my critiquing has or will be improved some, it's also given me more confidence in giving help/critiques, and showed me a few things that I can work on and improve.

Very awesome and, although short, it's straight forward :D I like that about it!
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Cassandra28 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2006
As I was reading it I was thinking, "There ought to be a tutorial to tell people how to accept a critique gracefully". It made me smile to see the comment at the bottom about it being part two.
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emmak33 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
hehehe its funny :lol: congrats on the DD!
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Lifes-Light Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Very nice. x3 Great points on giving critique!
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SpamtheFox Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
This will be extreamly helpful for some people I know! Therefore I'll fav it for easy acess.
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troyamayan Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Far and above the best advice for crits I have ever heard. :luv:
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finalknightxx Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
great guide! i wish there were more tips and pointers:-)
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ThunderGoddesKino Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Student General Artist
Very awesome way on telling the basic points of how to properly critique someone....I should show this to my friend Katie.. << oops, did I say that outloud. *hides* :sprint:

Urm...yeah. Great tutorial though! ^_^ :heart: :+fav:
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
:lmao: Thanks!
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ThunderGoddesKino Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Student General Artist
lol You're welcome!! ^ ^ :giggle:
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Garrison-Kelly Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Professional Writer
If more people would listen to you and your deviation, I wouldn't have qualms about going to see publishing companies :). This is extremely useful and extremely educational. I'm going to fave it! ^_^
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Woot, thanks! I'm glad you like it! :D
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Garrison-Kelly Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Professional Writer
My pleasure :D
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s0lidsn4k3 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
This is awesome, but this, this, this, this and this is wrong....

No, just kidding. Awesome job, I am SO favoriting this, and if it were a print, I'd get it on my wishlist.
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
*grins* Thanks a lot! ;)
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silivrenwolf Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Professional Photographer
Oh man #6 made me laugh because someone did that to me. They went and posted their redline... hopefully people will read this and be educated! Thanks for posting and congrats on your DD! =D
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Hehe thanks! Yeah, I've had that happen to me, too. In fact, all of these come from personal experience. :doh:
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silivrenwolf Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Professional Photographer
lol I guess the best way to teach others is through personal experience :doh:
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Dark1llusion Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Very well done, I love it. Hopefully the DD will get it enough attention to educate alote of people. =P
One thing I think would be useful to add on the do-nots is the ever so annoying "Hey, that reminds me of...." comments. Because its kind of depressing to hear when people look at your stuff it makes em think about other peoples work, like its been done before. Grr

Well, keep up the great stuff!

-Tony
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Doubtful-Della Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006  Professional Photographer
I wouldn't mind if my art reminded someone of a better artist, or a famous artist, or even something in life.... it makes a connection between the person and your own art, and leaves a better impression.
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Thanks, Tony! Hehe yeah, it can be annoying, although it depends on how exactly the similarity is pointed out and to whom. For instance, if someone were told that their works have a captivating atmosphere like Brom's, something tells me they might not mind!
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HippieKing Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
:excited: This is very, very useful, I am trying to learn giving critique, i started attempting this about a month ago, and have been trying from there on. Until now I have never thought of asking if they want the crit first, but I really should take that into account. Critique really is very useful. I had one once on a scrap and with the persons help (wink, wink *TazGold ) I got much further, it looked much better and I had much more fun! The piece may not have come out the way I wished it had it was so much help.

Anyhows, this is very interesting, very helpful and very well-thought out. I can't actually critique this, or at least would find it difficult, because there is nothing wrong with your text, and very little i think could be improved with the design. I love the design, it's nice and simple but effective and clean, nice and sweet. I also love the fact you've made 7 different parts, not one huge big nasty block of text, that looks inviting to read!

The chibis are also very sweet, the representations fit the piece. It just looks attractive, it's not a big tome that might deter people but an attractive, fun, useful tutorial!

Thanks again, I would also appreciate it if I could note you one of my stereotypical critiques (if that makes sense) and then you note me back some suggestions on how I could improve? :aww: That would be awesome if you could, but only if you want to, or have the time.

Yet again, great work. Take care, keep safe, a very well deserved DD!
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Leni13 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006   Traditional Artist
hell right! it's truelly annoying to hear all those 'waaai! it's great!' X3
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demonshifter91 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
FORK!!! :fork: I like it ^.^
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liiga Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
W00t, fork! Thanks! :D
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