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So, having gotten all riled up about publishing, I wanted to do a recap, and see what ground we covered:

My first angry post was all about 'why' - why do it? What was the motivation? Why was I so bloody angry? And what was I doing about it?

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Part 2 was about identity - who are you? What should you know about yourself and the industry if you really want to get serious about it?
techgnotic.deviantart.com/ wrote as part of his amazing response: 'But I think there comes a time when the whole system becomes so exhausted from mindless repetition that a certain cynicism becomes the only form of true enlightenment and what we loved about our artistic obsessions gets forgotten.'
deevelliott.deviantart.com/ also had some strong thoughts, including 'you have to bite your lip when f**ked up the arse and treated like you don't matter, better still smile and say thank you very much.'
It was a very exciting thread that threw up some strong feelings - the revolution gained a little steam here!

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Part 3 was more on expectations, with a little genius coaching from the late great Wally Wood - one of the finest comic strip artists there has ever been.
Take outs - if you are lucky enough to work with the big boys, don't expect to get to draw your favorite. Character. Ever. And if you DO, don't expect it to be easy. Be prepared!

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Part 4 was my furious interlude - how do I feel now?
How has being a pro ACTUALLY effected me over the years?
What are the scars and the war stories?
Alan Moore's daughter Leah actually sent me a message saying how much she agreed, and how shocked she was that even somebody with my history in the biz should feel that way.
Lots of pros have had this journey:

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Part 5 was back to practical stuff:

Distribution
Avatars
How to behave as a creator

I got into a great discussion about avatars with mojoliazon.deviantart.com/ (The jury is still out. What do you think? See the conversation in the link!)

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Part 6 was all about experimentation, pushing the boundaries, being a unique voice, and the pros and cons of that.
Views on both sides were discussed in the thread that followed!

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Just Fucking Do It!
This was about boiling down the reality into one bold post.
You want to do it? Then just fucking do it!!!

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Thanks all for amazing feedback, thoughts, etc. I've really enjoyed browsing your galleries, and hearing about how you would change things given half the chance.

Feel free to share, and revisit the discussions! :-)


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icenectar Featured By Owner Edited Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I enjoyed reading them even though I didn't comment on all of them. I humbly hope, that in your perusals of galleries, you overlooked mine because I've really got nothing to show (what I do would be akin to comparing Spike Jones music to Rachmaninov and there is no comparison). I'm hoping to change that but of course what I scribble out will never be at the same level as you or any of your idols (I know I've got to work hard--I just get discouraged extremely easily).
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
You are NOT alone. Artists are, in their very nature, self-critical to a fault. But it helps make us better.

Don't give up! :-)
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icenectar Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! It's just hard to keep in mind that people like you have moments of insecurity. I mean you're much better than I could ever be. I know practice helps a lot but as I've said, I'm overly critical of my "work" (and I use that term loosely).
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MrTuke Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Hi Liam. I've been a bit full on busy as of recent, but I have been giving these Journal entries a massage with my eyeballs and will respond in kind to each part. I'll have to dig a bit deep for an input that fairly summarises my experiences and opinions whilst respecting the experiences of others.

Thank you for bringing these important issues into the limelight, Mr Sharp. Hope all is well and take care. -Tommy Tuke
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
MrTuke, old son! I look forward to your thoughts! :-)
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MrTuke Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Just posted my first entry. It's a whoppa by the way (and I'm still drafting it a bit). :)
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hde2009 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Professional Artist
If I'd known there was a risk you'd browse my gallery one day, Liam, I'd have made sure there was something half decent in there. :p
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ha! You'e being waaaay too harsh on yourself there! :-)
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hde2009 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Professional Artist
Ah, you're much too kind, sir.
(And thanks for the fave!)
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dwaynebiddixart Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I have really enjoyed reading this run of journals.

I have worked in small publishers, doing my own thing and got screwed. Worked at some medium sized companies and been screwed. My goals have been focused on Marvel for some time, but the closer I get, the more I wonder if that IS what I want. I have lost the passion for the characters. Though they are being done somewhat better now, the power they had has waned a lot. I get asked a lot, if I were to get there, what book would I want to draw? I have no answer. I have no desire there. 

But I have a fiancee and we are planning to get married once I can afford it. And as a full time freelance artist, that is hard to do. So I have been wondering if there IS a way to really make a decent living in comics outside of the Big 2?

I have a ton of ideas I would love to do on my own but so often I hear horror stories of not even breaking even. Is there a place or a way to make decent money outside of the corporate machine? 
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
'I have really enjoyed reading this run of journals.'

I'm delighted to hear it! :-)

'I have worked in small publishers, doing my own thing and got screwed. Worked at some medium sized companies and been screwed.'

It'll happen, but you grow through that, and you learn how to work professionally, to a deadline, with other people, etc. It's worth the time and effort!

'My goals have been focused on Marvel for some time, but the closer I get, the more I wonder if that IS what I want. I have lost the passion for the characters.'

Yeah, I found the same. I wanted to create work that came from my heart - that mattered to me. Wasn't just bluster, blood and thunder...

'Though they are being done somewhat better now, the power they had has waned a lot. I get asked a lot, if I were to get there, what book would I want to draw? I have no answer. I have no desire there.'

Again - I hear you. 


'But I have a fiancee and we are planning to get married once I can afford it. And as a full time freelance artist, that is hard to do. So I have been wondering if there IS a way to really make a decent living in comics outside of the Big 2?'

Right now - I'm not sure there is. It's hard to make work even for the big 2, unless you nail a quick, identifiable technique, or are just plain brilliant at it. That's the grim reality. You really need a back-up job, freelance work to support yourself while you chase your dream...

'I have a ton of ideas I would love to do on my own but so often I hear horror stories of not even breaking even. Is there a place or a way to make decent money outside of the corporate machine?'

That's the rub. I said in an earlier one of these posts - don't do this for money, do it for love. But keep at it.

Also - keep your eyes open on Wednesday. Some big news coming up. It may not help financially, short term, but it may help you grow and get discovered in a much wider way... :-) 
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dwaynebiddixart Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks so much for the feedback! And I look forward to seeing what Wednesday has!
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JeffGraham-Art Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This series of posts offered the kind of insight that EVERY artist should consider when even just thinking about getting into this business as more than a hobby.  There are a lot of folks that believe they are destined for the Big 2...maybe giving this thread a read will adjust their sight on something that is FAR more achievable - growth as an individual artist.  :)
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
I'm soooo glad they have been useful to you. And thank you for your second point particularly - it's really pertinent: "maybe giving this thread a read will adjust their sight on something that is FAR more achievable - growth as an individual artist."

I'll raise a glass to that!
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JeffGraham-Art Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks!

I believe it is just as admirable a quest to grow as an artist, as it would be to work on your fav character.

It shouldn't be about WHO you're working on; it should be about the work your DOING. ;)

Great series man! :)
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
And I agree with you 100%. I need to touch on this more, if that's cool with you? Will certainly be quoting you! :-)
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JeffGraham-Art Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha...use whatever you need.

I'm one of those guys that loves creating art, most specifically comic art, but I will probably never work in the Big 2, or even the Top 5-10.  But, I'm okay with that.  My whole goal is to better understand inking and being able to apply that to ANY piece of art and make the art appear better, lacking typical inking flaws, following the principles of design...being an all-around better artist. ;)
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DeevElliott Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
Yeah....

Going to read these all through again and then $##* out what I come up with... :-)
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LiamSharp Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
Cheers Dave! Always love hearing your unfiltered thoughts and experience-based feedback!!! :-)
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