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Sorry, lame title.

Erm yeah, so this is probably new to most of you. :P I first started doing fractals about... two years ago. I don't do them very often and TBH I forgot all about them until recently.

Well, I just made this and I thought it looked awesome (it looks better than most of my other ones, LOL - case in point [click] - so I thought I'd upload it and see the reaction.

I use Apophysis 7x 2010 and the postwork (background, some simple adjustments the way I'd adjust my photography or something, etc.) is done in Photoshop.

Yes, you're allowed to reuse this pretty much any way you want. :P Just make sure to notify me first.

Let me know what you think? :) All comments/critiques highly appreciated. :)
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MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
By the way, how difficult is it to create fractals? Does it have more to do with designing or mathematics?
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letrainfalldown Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student General Artist
It really depends on what software you use, but the one I use, Apophysis, has more to do with experimentation and designing. Basically, when you make a new fractal, you can either start from a blank slate and add your own functions/effects from scratch or you can use the batch that Apophysis makes for you when you start up the program. I go through the batch and see one that looks promising (fairly big with crisp detail - a lot are really fuzzy).
To edit it, you drag triangles (change size, angle, or positioning on grid) to change the size and shape of various aspects of the image - like the outer rings, or the width of the entire rings, etc. You can also add or delete triangles or change the function/shape that each triangle is assigned to. You can also change the colors and such.

It's not difficult at all unless you want to go beyond experimentation to create precise fractals from scratch - that takes more thinking, although it's still not all that mathematical, I believe.

It's fun; you should try it sometime. :)
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MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
I've been thinking for a long time about trying it but somehow I never got to it. I find fractals fascinating, both visually but also conceptually. Anyway, thanks a lot for the information. I think I'm going to try it out soon if I find the time.
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letrainfalldown Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student General Artist
You should try it. It is interesting... I was drawn to them before as well because they're just so... pretty by themselves, without any definite form (well, a lot of them do but those are the super-advanced ones).
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MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
Powerful work! This actually reminds me a bit of a Salvia Divinorum trip I experienced. It's quite "god-like".

I think I have a better title as well. What about "Neutron Star" or "Magnetar"? The structure is strongly reminiscent of magnetic field lines of stars as visualized in pictures to explain the phenomenon.
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letrainfalldown Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student General Artist
What's Salvia Divinorum?

But thank you! :D
Hmm, I'll think about those names. I don't actually know much about those kinds of stars/star patterns.
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MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Professional General Artist
It's one of the strongest psychedelic drugs there is on this planet. I don't know if you've ever done any drugs but Salvia is absolutely beyond this world. The trip lasts only a few minutes but from my experience it might as well have been an eternity. The environment just vanished and my memory, ego and everything I knew including the knowledge of who and what I am was just gone. I was being dragged through an infinite amount of dimensions for an eternity and it was pure chaos. It was the most nightmarish experience of my life but also the most profound. When I came down from the trip it took me another 10 minutes to regain my trust that this reality is real; I just experienced something so profound that coming back into this reality just seemed fake. I used Salvia another 4 times after that but none of the trips were pleasant.

Anyway, your artwork reminds me of the second trip I had on Salvia. You have to understand though that in my trips I don't actually see anything but in a way I do. On Salvia you make associations which are actually not possible and you experience things you simply can't bring into words. Although drugs just alter your mind and don't actually bring you to God or anything like that, I'm convinced that it gives a deeper insight into reality. If you consider that your body is a biological robot which functions on certain chemicals, then by adding certain chemicals you alter the functionality of the machine which gives you a different perspective on reality as it were. I'm obsessive about astronomy, cosmology, physics (particularly quantum mechanics) and reality itself and Salvia gave me some insight into the universe. Anyway, in the second trip there was a divine being with me. I didn't see anything and yet in a way I had a sense of what it looked like. It was female and it was a sort of fractal interwoven with the universe. I was stuck in a loop of dimensions (again, some kind of infinite fractal) and the divine being told me (not with sound and yet it did communicate with me) that if I wanted to escape from the infinite loop I had to "clean up" the dimension. I did but right behind me the dimension grew back so I panicked. A friend recorded the trip and all I was actually doing was walking in circles for a few minutes.

I apologize if you're not interesting in hearing this. I'm telling you these experiences not to advertise Salvia but to explain how in a way I connected with the divine/abstract and your artwork reminds me of that. Have you seen the movie The Fountain? That movie is also quite like your artwork and my experience. If you haven't seen it, I strongly recommend it. I'm not a big fan of drama movies but The Fountain is just amazing.

As for the star, read the intro and look at the picture of this Wikipedia article: [link]
Neutron stars are absolutely crazy. They're an end stage of a regular star when it implodes but doesn't have enough mass to collapse completely into a stellar black hole. A neutron star is only around 12 to 20 km across but has the mass of a regular star so it's ultra dense. The gravity is so extreme that when you drop a coin on its surface the energy released equals an atom bomb.
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letrainfalldown Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student General Artist
What you're saying about Salvia actually kind of makes sense.
I myself am not a drug user, but I know people who are and I respect their decisions. :P

I'll try to remember to see The Fountain someday. What's it about?

And neutron stars seem awesome... lots of compact energy... I just realized that I think I learned about this back in like middle school or something...
Looking back at the fractal, I kind of do see how it resembles a neutron star. XD
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MartinSilvertant Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
The Fountain consists of 3 stories which intertwine. One story is about a doctor researching cancer in the hope to cure his beloved wife from cancer. The second story is of the same man in the 18th century or so where he's looking for the tree of life at a secret Aztec temple. The third story is the same man on a metaphysical level where he's in a bubble with a tree. The tree stands for the life of his wife in the first story, and the wife in the first story is writing a book, which is actually the second story. At the end all three stories come together. It sounds a bit odd now but it's a masterpiece really.
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letrainfalldown Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student General Artist
That sounds really interesting! I'll have to go see that sometime.
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