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Stock Tut -- shoot-process-use

Sooooo, yes. A new tutorial. Finally :aww:

This tutorial is meant for STOCKERS and for MANIPULATORS as well as for anyone else who might be interested. It explains the "dos and don'ts" of stock photography for deviantArt stock and offers some practical advice for stock photographers while at the same time offering a way for manippers to find "good quality stock".

I hope this will help some people somehow - FEEDBACK = LOVE! :heart:

None of my tutorials may be used/reproduced in part or in full without my explicit written permission! All share options have been enabled so you can easilyshare this the proper way! Credit where credit is due and all that jazz...

MORE Tutorials: can be found in this collection

PS: All images in this guide have been shot by me with my Nikon 90D, but some or maybe even most of the advice can be used on compact cameras, too.

PPS: here's the polar bear stock I mention so excessively :giggle:
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annamae22's avatar
this is so helpful, thanks :)
BloodMoonEquinox's avatar
These are some great tips--I'm new to stocking (and manipulating too, as a matter of fact...) and even though I don't have a fancy camera, these are some good points to keep in mind! :aww: Thanks for the tutorial! :happybounce:
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
you're welcome! great to hear this is useful :love:
la-chatte-noire's avatar
I wish all the stockers could read this tutorial, especially those who upload obnoxious high contrast people stock.
Lupsiberg's avatar
Thanks a lot for sharing :bow: :iconasnowmanplz:
Pyro-Vampiress's avatar
Huh, I've never really thought about it. It was really interesting to look at though, even if I've never considered doing stock pictures.
ForeverStock's avatar
This is really helpful - Thanks! :)
Cacio044's avatar
Interesting and useful! A+ =D
Thewinator's avatar
Nice tutorial certainly.

However I have to disagree with you on some fronts.
For instance, 'grainy' pictures can often be fixed. Especially while they are still on a higher resolution. Sure it won't always be true to the original but a lot of grain can be fixed using noise reduction filters. (recommending this one here [link] )

Also, dpi is not the thing you should be paying attention to while actually looking for the stock, but the resolution in pixels. Because if it's dpi you're looking at, you need to know the size of the image in inches to actually determine what amount of pixel data there is to work with. Dpi can always be set afterwards before you print/save/distribute and does not really change the amount of image data.
On computers pixels are shown 1:1 so your image can be 72 dpi or 300dpi, if its 1000*1000px it's that size, period.

Just thought I should have pointed these things out to you. For the other things though, very good points for stockers to keep in mind. I often see these things done wrong and hopefully more people will pay attention to it now :D

Love for making :hug:
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
Thank you for your comment. However, I don't fully agree.

Grainy pictures may be fixable with great software if you just want to reduce noise on one of your photographs. But for manips, things look differently. The thruth of the matter is that most of the times the grain in stock pics I've seen on dA is so prominent that short of overpainting you can scrap the picture - especially if you're using it for maip where you will further manipulate the pixels and the grain will in most cases stand out more with each manip step.

Of course 1000x1000px is just that. But I was aiming for something that can be understood without having to get your brain all twisted thinking about how to get from a 5000x4000px 72dpi pic to one with the right resolution for print - those who are interested in that kind of stuff can surely do the math. However in my experience, most people just don't. They will blow up that image to be 300dpi at 5000x4000px and wonder why their print quality sucks.

The point of this tut was not to give a million tips and tricks on how to deal with pictures that are - let's say - unfavourable, but to give an overview for quick reference without much hassle.
Thewinator's avatar
It's true, grain will be worse for adjustments like raising contrast, saturation, brightness, vibrance etc. So using noise filters before them would help on the not-so-prominent ones.
True, there's rediculous noise on a lot of stocks I've seen. Just wanted to point out the possibility.

As for resolutions, for the stocker it really doesn't matter wether they mark the image as 72 or 300 dpi, so long they don't blow up the resolution with it. Like you said, it would be a problem when printing, so after finishing your work it should be taken into account.

I realise the purpouse of the tutorial and like I said you did a nice job on it. Just wanted to point out these little details.

Don't get so offended from a few tips, I only mean to help ;)
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
Trust me, if I had been pissed, I would've sounded differently. Maybe you should not take my response so personally, because I only want to explain to you that I am well aware of these issues and that I had not just left them out out of forgetfulness, but for a reason.

If people don't have the possibility to make their cameras put out 300dpi pics then 72 will have to do. I'm not saying they should go through the hassle of resizing their images before uploading just to save the manippers some time but if they do have the possibility to shoot big, they should do it - the more pixels we get to manip the better. I for one always appreciate 300dpi images for my own manips cos I'm tired of thinking "oh this is nice and big" when looking at it in full view on the screen, downloading it and then when ready to use it I have to see it's only 72 dpi and will be way too small for my manip no matter how I turn it. It's frustrating & time consuming (downloading and then having to search again for something similar), to say the least. Especially when you look in the exif and see it was shot with a camera well capable of shooting 300dpi (or at least 240)
Thewinator's avatar
I'm sorry but neither camera output quality or size is expressed in dpi, same goes for image files, same goes for previews. You said it yourself, "the more pixels we get to manip the better" the amount of pixels is not effected by dpi.

It doesn't matter at all what dpi a digital file is set to, it is always displayed at 72 dpi on computers. The only time dpi matters is when you print. And the stocker is not going to do that for you. So dpi is nothing to be thinking about at all as a stocker.

Changing dpi will not resize your image for a digital file. It will only make a printed output smaller/larger keeping the same pixel data if you even print it.


As for taking it personal, I merely thought you sounded offended, which I wasn't trying to do so. Just making sure.
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
goodness, I'm talking about printing here, not about output on my monitor. I always create print files of my manips and so do loads of others here. Neglecting this is neglecting a whole lot of people. Just because you focus on minotor output doesn't mean others will.
Thewinator's avatar
You are right about printing. When printing it's important.
My comment was about finding stocks. Because you described that that's what the tut is about.
    "This tutorial is meant for STOCKERS and for MANIPULATORS as well as for anyone else who might be interested. It explains the "dos and don'ts" of stock photography for deviantArt stock and offers some practical advice for stock photographers while at the same time offering a way for manippers to find "good quality stock"."
When searching for stocks dpi is not relevant.

That's all. I could prove it to you, but that would be more then giving feedback and don't have time or motivation for it. I'm sure you can find an article about it elsewhere.
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
If I search for stock to manip for printing, the res IS important. Printing and manips therefore belong together in my opinion, I thought that that would show in the rest of the tutorial. Obviously, I was mistaken, as some people need everything spelled out and will nag at everything that doesn't fit their personal view of the world.
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bluem00n's avatar
Wonderful tutorial :love:

Is there any way you could send me that reflection glass bear head? It is absolutely awesome :faint:
You're very right about large files for painters - even though manipping differs greatly from painting in stock uses, it is usually more tolerant towards 'mistakes' in a picture, which just makes us have a more varied array of usable stock.
kuschelirmel-stock's avatar
done - sent to your gmail adress :heart:
bluem00n's avatar
Thank you so much :love:
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