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Boycott Venom Movie

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***DISCLAIMER: I have nothing against you if you choose to watch this movie. This isn't an attack towards you, this is a statement aimed towards Sony.***

Reasons why I will boycott this movie:

1. It's Sony. They are trying to take away anything from Marvel they can with Spider-Man now. If the Venom movie becomes a success, that means they will get one step closer of taking away Spider-Man from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or any Spider-Man related character they haven't used yet. In fact, this could even mean we are risking them to take away J. Jonah Jameson from us, as well as Gwen Stacy and/or Mary Jane.

2. Avi Arad and Amy Pascal are the ones who got this movie to get into production. Avi Arad is infamous for ruining Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 with a lot of production intervention, and he is irrationally obsessed with Venom. Amy Pascal is the crazy idiot responsible for the 2016 Ghostbusters movie, and the upcoming Barbie movie with a strong SJW agenda.

3. Tom Rothman is in charge of the movie division of Sony, and has been ever since 2015. Before that up until 2012, he was the one in charge of the movie division of Fox. Yes, he is the guy responsible for all the bad decisions with the X-Men movies from X-Men 3 and forward. He's responsible for sowing Deadpool's mouth shut (literally, it was his own personal demand for that to happen), and he was the one NOT allowing a Deadpool movie to happen (and couldn't happen until that asshole left). He also never allowed Sentinels to be in the X-Men movies because he doesn't think people like to see giant robots. Wherever Tom Rothman goes, movies are being ruined.

4. Again, it's SONY. They thought it was a good idea to make an Aunt May spin-off movie at one point. And they are going to have Venom be the start of their own Spider-Man universe WITHOUT Spider-Man, separated from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And once again, it's part of their evil plan to slowly try to take back Spider-Man. And by paying ANY money for this movie, you WILL support them doing that.

Since a trailer will very soon come out of this new Venom movie, I really do urge people to think twice about giving this movie a chance. It might be good in and of itself, I don't know. But is it worth it to ruin Spider-Man from being allowed to be included in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

*UPDATE*
Now it IS confirmed there won't be any Venom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because of the Venom movie: screenrant.com/venom-movie-mcu…
Once again - if you want Venom in future Spider-Man movies, you need to boycott this movie.
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Hailtothechimp's avatar
I don’t know I’m cautiously optimistic. Granted Rothman being in charge is a bad sign, a very bad sign, but the way I see it Sony is more ambitious than Marvel and is more willing to do awesome things with its property. Yeah the Amazing Spider Man films weren’t particularly good but there was a foundation for a good idea laid in the second one. But the thing I’m loving from Sony isn’t Venom but they’re finally going to introduce Miles Morales, something Marvel should have done instead of rehashing Peter Parker yet again. Diversity is a massive issue with Marvel, after a decade they’re now finally having movies where the leads are an African man and a woman when we should have had four movies by now led by black actors (again Miles Morales, they actually toyed with the idea of a War Machine movie a few years ago but scrapped it because why would we want something awesome like that and they could have given Flacon his own movie three times already). Not to mention with their road map already planned out who knows how long it would have been until Miles Morales and Spider Gwen showed up. At least those two will happen in the immediate future with the possibility of other Spider women. It seems less like Sony wants to wrangle Spider Man back and more like they want to hold a majority of the other characters.

We’ll have to wait and see what happens, maybe things won’t turn out so bad, even if they do at least we got to see some awesome stuff in the present instead of waiting who knows how long before Marvel stopped dragging their feet.
KurvosVicky's avatar
"but the way I see it Sony is more ambitious than Marvel and is more willing to do awesome things with its property"

Like, giving a solo movie to the most overrated Spider-Man villain, considering an Aunt May movie, wanting a Sinister Six movie without Spider-Man, and now trying to make sure their Spider-Man stuff is not in canon with the MCU Spider-Man? Yeah, totally brilliant...

"they’re finally going to introduce Miles Morales, something Marvel should have done instead of rehashing Peter Parker yet again. Diversity is a massive issue with Marvel"

To be blatantly honest with you, I don't even remotely care about Miles Morales. And saying we should introduce the MCU Spider-Man as being Miles Morales? I'm sorry, but that's a really offensively bad idea in my opinion. I've wanted this to happen ever since I was a kid with the MCU Spider-Man. I'm a fan of Peter Parker. I don't want anyone but him to be Spider-Man. Miles Morales to me is a boring bland overly perfect Gary Stu character. And you don't seem to have any reason of why you want him to be Spider-Man instead of Peter Parker other than ethnical inclusion. To me, that sounds like Social Justice Warrior logic to me. Inclusion matters, but stuff shouldn't be included for the sake of it. You can say all you want you like Miles Morales as a character, but I don't think you would push for him even half as much if he was white.

"after a decade they’re now finally having movies where the leads are an African man"

... uhm, haven't you heard about the Blade movies? That's Marvel. Came out 1998. And why does it matter whether they are the main lead or not? There have been tons of black protagonists in the MCU already. War Machine, Falcon, Nick Fury, Heimdall, Valkyrie... not to mention Luke Cage getting his own show. African male inclusion hasn't been an issue for decades now.

And throughout your whole comment, you're making it seem like Sony knows what they are doing. But they are clearly not. Marvel Studios are trying to make all Marvel stuff work together, while Sony's trying to split it up and make it a mess, and do really stupid and random decisions of what to focus on. Like, as I said before, dedicate a whole movie to an overrated Spider-Man villain who's nothing but a dumb powerful beast. It's like giving Doomsday his own movie.

I've been a big Spider-Man fan ever since the '90s. And not until now does it feel like I'm fully getting the Spider-Man I want, thanks to Civil War and Homecoming. And the only thing right now trying to take that away, is Sony. Well, those three mentioned people at Sony - Amy Pascal, Avi Arad, and Tom Rothman. They fuck up everything they touch, and they are insane. Encourage them all you want - but they are trying to ruin what I've always wanted and am finally getting with Spider-Man now in the MCU.
Hailtothechimp's avatar
When it comes to the stuff you said about Sony, yeah you’re probably right. If this was an MCU film it would be guaranteed to be decent at worst but as is there’s a chance it could suck and your definitely right about Rothman and Arad (I’ll never forget Arad’s stupid demand when Marvel asked if Spider Man could cameo in Avengers). However, I’m sorry Kurvos but representation is very important to millions of people especially children. With Miles Morales millions of African American and Hispanic American children can look at him and finally say “Spider Man looks like me!” They can see themselves as the hero for a change, not to mention who the heck wants to hear Peter Parker’s story told for the trillionth time? And your right I wouldn’t push for him if he was white I want to see him because of his skin color. But who knows maybe all the negative qualities of the character could have been changed he could have been done better if Marvel didn’t cater to the status quo.

As for the other comment... Blade was three movies with the same actor and character and there hasn’t been a new one in fifteen years. You can’t use that as an example and say that’s that. And those other characters play second fiddle to a white hero in a franchise that’s made primarily of straight white men written and directed primarily by straight white men. Black Panther is the first one directed by an African American filmmaker with a primarily African and African American cast. But for every Black Panther there’s three Captain America’s and the Iron mans and three Thor’s and a team made up of white people and another team led by a white guy and who knows how many films it will be before another person of color is given permission to be the lead hero. Inclusion of not just African Americans but Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, middle eastern Americans, native Americans and everyone in between is still a massive horrible problem. Remember that Ghost in the Shell movie last year? The one where white as marshmallow fluff Scarlett Johansson played a Japanese Woman? That broke the hearts of millions of Asian and Asian American women and girls, that movie told them they didn’t matter, they weren’t allowed to be a hero. Do you know how often I see a movie directed by a person of color? Or led by a person of color? Not often. 

One more thing: don’t you ever want to see an openly gay hero in the MCU lead his own movie and have his own love interest? Wouldn’t that be the greatest feeling in the world for you? That’s the feeling tens of millions of people are going to have this weekend and for me that does the heart good.
KurvosVicky's avatar
I'm sorry, but it's still a really stupid idea for me, and having the mindset you have is a big part of the problem with today's society. What if I said the same about Spider-Man being gay? I wouldn't, because it's stupid. I get it, Miles Morales is an already established character... but so is Ice-Man, and I hate how they turned him gay in the comics out of nowhere. Miles isn't Peter suddenly turned black, I know that - but it's still BULLSHIT to NOT have Peter Parker be in the MCU. There are always children who will so-called feel "excluded" potentially. But guess what? Kids don't care the same way about that 90% of the time. They just wanna see cool stuff. And they most certainly do NOT care about what ethnicity the main protagonist in specific is. Just as I don't care if the main protagonist in specific is straight.
Inclusion IS important, and don't you dare respond to me again as if I didn't say that. I said inclusion shouldn't be FORCED in but come naturally. It's NOT equality if the only reason we would have Miles instead of Peter in the MCU is for ethnical diversity and more inclusion of black people - that's literally the opposite, it's to suddenly give special right and privilege to black characters. It's not because of black discrimination they have been taking long to do something like Black Panther. It's because they wanted to establish the core continuity first based on the comics - and that mainly happens to be white people. They care about the comics, it has nothing to do with race. It's borderline insanity to me to give special rights for black to alter shit for already established comic book characters and either alter or replace them.

"But who knows maybe all the negative qualities of the character could have been changed he could have been done better if Marvel didn’t cater to the status quo."

... how about they HAVE a status quo for Spider-Man before anything else? No, I'm sorry, but this is just pure bullshit what you're trying to push for. Maybe after 4-6 solo Spider-Man movies, I'd be fine with Miles Morales taking over the Spider-Man persona - but not NOW. Especially because Peter Parker is a big fan favorite, and many many MANY others than just me have been wanting to see Peter Parker in the MCU ever since it first crossed our minds. Kids included. Or what, does it not count when it's "white heterosexual men"? Heck, I'm not even heterosexual, I'm gay. And like I said, I would still not want a gay Spider-Man. I want Peter Parker. Because once again - inclusion IS important, but repressed groups shouldn't get special privilege.

"Blade was three movies with the same actor and character and there hasn’t been a new one in fifteen years. You can’t use that as an example and say that’s that."

Well, there's also Hancock outside of Marvel. And Steel, even though that one's kinda bad. But sure, I suppose.

"that’s made primarily of straight white men written and directed primarily by straight white men. Black Panther is the first one directed by an African American filmmaker with a primarily African and African American cast."

I don't care what people are behind a movie, I care about the final product. But sure, IF we are talking about behind-the-scenes, I AM glad they allow more ethnical diversity for mainstream movie directors now. They did that with Kong: Skull Island, and Thor: Ragnarök. And since I so far know the Kong: Skull Island director is great (haven't seen Thor: Ragnarök yet), that makes it double-awesome. But once again, it shouldn't be FORCED in. Not saying the mentioned ones are, I'm just saying. Equality is not to give special rights.

"Remember that Ghost in the Shell movie last year? The one where white as marshmallow fluff Scarlett Johansson played a Japanese Woman? That broke the hearts of millions of Asian and Asian American women and girls, that movie told them they didn’t matter, they weren’t allowed to be a hero."

Uhm... no, Scarlett Johansson played an android. An android who in the manga and anime it's based on looked awfully caucasian for a so-called "Japanese". It wouldn't be beyond Japan to build a caucasian android, since they are obsessed with caucasians. As a matter of fact, what you are saying is a LIE - there has been no outcry from Japan or China about this. Mostly a loud minority of SJWs in USA did that outcry. In Japan and China, they couldn't care less - whenever people there have been asked how they feel about it, they just think it's awesome to see an actress like Scarlett Johansson play an iconic character. They get asians in their own movies all the time anyway, I don't get why Hollywood and movies from the US in general should be so ridiculously obligated to equally represent everyone.

"One more thing: don’t you ever want to see an openly gay hero in the MCU lead his own movie and have his own love interest? Wouldn’t that be the greatest feeling in the world for you? That’s the feeling tens of millions of people are going to have this weekend and for me that does the heart good."

I want gay inclusion. Not force it in. I don't want them to alter or replace already established characters. I don't want them to get special privileges. But sure, if they do Young Avengers, I would get an openly gay hero in the MCU have his own love interest, and be part of a team. But just like the Black Panther movie now, I want it to feel organically like it fits into the rest, and not like they are just doing it for inclusion. I'm glad they are doing it right with the Black Panther movie in relation to the rest of the MCU. And as for Young Avengers - they are currently establishing the romance between Vision and Scarlet Witch, and the Kree have been established, and the Skrull about to be established in the Captain Marvel movie. So, either in Phase 4 or Phase 5, they could organically include Young Avengers.
But I strongly disagree with your philosophy of cramming it in and give special rights to repressed groups.
CashLannister's avatar
I haven't seen the trailer, but I already know it sucks ass. For starters, there's no Venom in the Venom trailer. And secondly, Tom fucking Hardy is an AWFUL pick for Eddie Brock. Why wouldn't they hire Brock Lesnar to play Eddie? At least he looks like the character and is tall and imposing. Oh yeah, because Sony is the company equivalent to Satan. How forgetful of me. -_-
KurvosVicky's avatar
... Brock Lesnar? I couldn't pick between him and Tom Hardy, because I don't think either one of them fits to play Eddie Brock. Brock Lesnar is WAAAAY too huge, and would look unintentionally silly to have him be a photographer. Not to mention, I don't think he has the acting chops.
CashLannister's avatar
Fair enough. But all the same, when I think of Eddie Brock,  I think of someone tough, tall and muscular, not to mention blonde and as it is, Brock looks like Eddie straight out of the comics. Tom has the muscle to play him, but his apperance doesn't fit. 
yahikona92's avatar
and the upcoming Barbie movie with a strong SJW agenda. < explain this one 
KurvosVicky's avatar
Barbie's going to be an outcast for being "too chubby" in the Barbie movie. Not like you'd see that for a male character unless it's a comedy where the male is made fun of for it.
ryanmicro10's avatar
At least wait to watch it. Tom Hardy must did a good work being Eddie Brock/Venom besides its a TEASER TRAILER. You wanna boycott a movie that you did not even watch. And tell me that you can create something better oh no because youre just one person. And if the movie is going to be trash for you then let it be it, it does not affect you at all. And obviusly SONY is not gonna hear you. Who knows you? Besides your mama.
KurvosVicky's avatar
What a mature comment.

Also, I never said anything about whether the movie is good or bad. That's not what this boycott is about. If you actually read what I said, you should know that already. Also, doing the "you can't do better because you're just one person"... really now? So you've never ever criticised any movie with tons of people behind it's production? You know, like, literally every single cinematic movie released to theaters ever made?

And I didn't watch the trailer until after I uploaded this. Because again, this has NOTHING to do with whether the movie will be good as it's own movie or not.
Bat-Knight's avatar
This movie is going to be awesome, and I don't know why you think this movie is going mean sony will stop working with marvel.  Yes they made some bad movies, but has mad good movies, and this looks like one of them. 
KurvosVicky's avatar
That's not what I said. You take what I say ridiculously literal. But if you wish to go and watch it, go ahead. I ain't stopping you.
Bat-Knight's avatar
I just don't understand why your not supporting this movie? I'm glad that sony has control over spiderman, and his cast, and that Disney doesn't. 
KurvosVicky's avatar
I've already explained how and why in full detail. If you still don't understand, I can't help you. Just leave me be if I offend you so much, because our conversation will clearly not go anywhere anyway.
Bat-Knight's avatar
You haven't offend me.  If you don't want to see the movie that's on you. I'm just trying to understand why you want to boycott this movie, and just what it is that your trying to accomplish?  You don't seem to make your argument clear.  
KurvosVicky's avatar
Tell me what's not clear for you, and I will try my best to clarify.
Bat-Knight's avatar
You seem to think that Sony will take away spiderman from the MCU, if Venom succeeds.  Sony has't said anything like that, and if Venom does succeeds doesn't mean sony will do thing like an ant may movie.  You seem to think that will be the case.  Maybe that's just me.  
KurvosVicky's avatar
Of course they wouldn't say it out loud. But, based on the information I know about them, especially from when I used to check out Midnight's Edge on Youtube, it is very likely what they are doing. Why else would they pick out what Spider-Man properties they can and do their own stuff with it out of canon from the MCU? And I never said they will do an Aunt May movie if Venom succeeds - I said they HAVE considered an Aunt May movie once.
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wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ve…
Congrats on being in social media right now LMAO!
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Neat. :XD: And thanks. Though, the writer of that article is insanely naive if he thinks Sony would consider crossing over their Spider-Man stuff with the MCU stuff. Like I said, they are more likely to try to STEAL that away if they can.
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Eh, I'm not gonna see it because I'm tired of superhero movies. ^^;
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