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August 26, 2009
copper rose by ~knivesandroses. The suggester wrote, "I was speechless when I saw this, the intricate detail and effort put into this is just amazing. If you like this, be sure to check out the rest of this deviant's gallery. He truly has a gift for metal work."
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copper rose

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Forged and formed copper rose made from bar and sheet copper. The color is a patina obtained by heating in the forge fire and then quenching at the proper time. The temperature and atmosphere within the forge has to be controlled carefully. The colors are stable though and last.
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Image size
920x688px 425.58 KB
Make
OLYMPUS OPTICAL CO.,LTD
Model
C750UZ
Shutter Speed
10/1600 second
Aperture
F/3.2
Focal Length
10 mm
ISO Speed
50
Date Taken
Nov 30, 1999, 12:00:00 AM
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The detail in this rose is awesome, I really like it!!
grapeshotmemory's avatar
This is lovely. It reminds me of something in a book I read once, a magical tree of iron that bloomed copper roses.
DazzlinDave's avatar
Great work!! The detail is really good.

I made one from steel if you want to have a look...
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PoetryOD's avatar
:rose: Hey there I featured this work here.
I hope you like it and it gets more attention
for this beautiful piece : ) Thanks! :heart:
martina606's avatar
I am still amazed at the reception the copper rose gets.
DazzlinDave's avatar
Mine gets a lot of attention, though it's not my normal work. I did one on a whim and had many requests for more. I'm still thinking of how to patina the steel for color. So far I've only made two.
bluebow12's avatar
Thanks..... I just sold that one and now I get to make another.
While I like the enameled roses better, most of the responses have been on the copper rose which shows a heat coloring. That particular rose will not heat color to a red. Instead, it goes to a tarnished color. At first, I rejected the color as bad. But, when I began to get so much positive feedback, I changed my perception of it in response. One thing I have learned over the years is that My own viewpoint is not the only valid viewpoint. Well, thanks again. Hope to hear from you another time. Smitty
Technetium09's avatar
Wow! That makes my aluminum roses look like crap.
Hey to you....aluminum is likely stiffer than the thin (.010) copper foil I use. And I anneal it several times or as needed in the process. I also have made them for at least 10 years. The first ones were pretty different. Stay away from copper sheet from the junkyard that is magnetic. Likely is not really copper but something alloyed with something magnetic. I do use it but it is stiff, very stiff and much harder to form than real copper. I suspect it is roofing flashing copper. Before you buy a bunch, try out a smaller piece. If you can use it, well then so much the better. You are surely going to have to anneal whatever you get. That roofing flashing is stiff even when annealed, though somewhat less than before annealing. I use my fingers, and pliers both ordinary and needle nose as well as various diameters of wooden dowels to push and wrap around. Small hammers may at times be useful in combination with the dowel which is held on the backside of the petal.
When I started I went to a craft section in whatever store was around, and bought a fabric rose, took it apart to study how they had constructed it and get as a starting point for the pieces. Stay in touch as might like and I will answer your mails. John S
Elmirinda's avatar
Did you use a torch to roll the edges of the petals back, or would that heat the metal too quickly?
I am very interested in smithing and am currently reading The Art of Blacksmithing so that I can understand the process a bit more before starting. This is the sort of work I hope to one day be able to do. Thank you for posting this, it is something to work towards.
Good Morning,
No. I annealed the material, then used fingers and pliers, etc. to form the petals. By the way, is The Art of Blacksmithing by Alex Bealer? If it is, don't take it too seriously.... There are other books way better. Depending on where you are located, possibly the best sources are your state blacksmithing organizations. When I started, I had only books...book, Bealer's book in fact. Not the most helpful beginning. Also the first rose I made was from steel. One of the reasons I became interested in blacksmithing is that I watched a young blacksmith forge a rose from a solid block of mild steel. If there are classes and workshops you can take at a college or through the blacksmith group, do it. You will learn more in a weekend than trying to get it from any book over months and months...... stay in touch, Smitty
Elmirinda's avatar
Morning,
First off I want to thank you for the depth of your reply. Would you happen to have another titles for reference books? It is Alex Bealer's book that I have, I can see your point about it not being the greatest book for beginers, in particular those with little history in working with metals such as myself. I haven't found any blacksmithing courses or workshops out here but there are welding courses. Would it be wise to take welding courses while looking for a smithing course? Just to get a feel for working with metals. Stay safe and warm this winter, Shel
Happy Holidays.... I am having a total eclipse of the brain. It has been a long time since I have thought of good sources in print. A welding course is not a bad thing. learning to weld ordinary steel in an ordinary manner is very useful in the shop and definitely is an aid in design and construction. If you look for craft schools like Haystack and John C. Campbell you will find all kinds of classes. Your state blacksmithing group will be way cheaper. Look up ABANA. That is the Artist Blacksmith Assoc. of North America. They may list state chapters. Stay in touch with me. I will bang my head a couple more times and the title of a good sourcebook will pop out..... John
Elmirinda's avatar
Happy New years, sorry about the late relpy, exam time. My grandpa is a welder, he has agreed to teach me the basics when spring rolls around. Thanks for trying to think of refference works, I am the type of person who needs step by step instructions within arms reach when I'm learning something. I found my provincal ABANA chapter as well, and possibly a knife smith who may be willing to help me out. Hope you had a wonderful New years, Shel
Shel,
Good way to go. Grandpa will give you a good introduction to working steel. Most of us learn much faster by having a hands-on experience. I hope you have fun and learn a lot ! John
jujusjewelry's avatar
I want to comment... but I'm speechless. Wow.
Thank you for writing. That particular rose has really gotten a lot of attention. Smitty
Lieralolita's avatar
oh my...this is probably the most beautiful thing ive ever seen...
Thank you very much for the comment. When I made the piece, I had no idea how it would strike people's imagination. Really been a humbling experience. Smitty
Lieralolita's avatar
no problem!its a beautiful peice of art!
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