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Mary Sue Wish Fulfillment Guy by kevinbolk Mary Sue Wish Fulfillment Guy by kevinbolk
This was the art for one of the slides for my "10 Things I Hate About Webcomics" panel I put together for Zenkaicon 2011. The idea behind the whole talk was to poke fun at common webcomics tropes, cliches, and/or bad habits and to help new creators recognize them and then either avoid them or exploit them.

This one was the parody comic I made for the "Mary Sue/Self-Insert/Wish-Fulfillment Character" slide; very clearly the author's overly idealized version of themselves and awkwardly the center of the comic's whole damn universe.

If you don't want your character to fall into this trope, I recommend taking the Univeral Mary Sue Litmus Test. Give your character some faults or weaknesses. Poke fun at those failings and/or use them as plot devices. You'll have more fun writing your characters and it will make for a more interesting story.

If it's important that your character act this way, then at least make them deal with the consequences of their actions and don't let your supporting cast find everything they do endearing. Very few people would REALLY want to hang out with a person like this... unless they were masochists or sycophants. X_x

For the record, the "Wizard Basketball" thing isn't a total non-sequitur. I used to be pretty good at hoops when I was younger and I had always wanted to be a pro player if the cartooning thing didn't work out. I also wanted to be a wizard. :D
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:iconskulltrumpet:
SkullTrumpet Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Chad af
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:iconsho87:
sho87 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2018
Dante and Sonic in a nutshell.
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The0nlyGH0ST Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2018
I'm glad he doesn't break the fourth wall
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:iconragpin:
ragpin Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I just don't want my character to be a Gary-Stu, that would suck.
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StampyWolf999 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a bad feeling Blaze ((my OC)) is a Mary Sue character... ;-;
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:icon350ztt:
350ZTT Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
uh oh!
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:iconstampywolf999:
StampyWolf999 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think hes okay...he is afraid of snakes. X3
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:iconwhatd:
WhatD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2017
Well I mean who dosent love Groundhog Day? 
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:iconpoteto-man:
Poteto-Man Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017
If you take away the negative traits, this becomes very strongly reminiscent of someone that I went to university with.
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:iconvectortorn14:
VectorTorn14 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If he is 'the chosen one,' then why is he such a $!@#?
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:iconpsiandco:
psiandco Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Student Writer
Sigh, awesomeness doesn't make character.

A character needs to be recognizable for consistent: Details, inner dialog, reasoning, background, dreams, ambitions, interests, and more.
If one does make a hero -> please include flaws, weaknesses, limitations, and more personal negatives to the above list. 
One trope that must die... the chosen one. why read a book, or watch a movie, if the outcome is already determined and declared at the beginning.
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Sinanticks Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's really what a woman wants!
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:iconcrimsoncarmine:
CrimsonCarmine Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Student General Artist
This is so true. If you don't like Groundhog Day, you ARE a bad person.
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:iconliepardmon555:
Liepardmon555 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist
Is he a mary sue or what is he then?
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:iconrbingham2000:
rbingham2000 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017
Male Mary Sues are typically called Marty Stus or Gary Stus. And this one is a pure asshole.
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:iconpoteto-man:
Poteto-Man Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2017
But that's dumb
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:iconrbingham2000:
rbingham2000 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2017
I don't come up with the terminology.
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:iconliepardmon555:
Liepardmon555 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Hobbyist
I see.
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:iconfuckinghelllads:
Fuckinghelllads Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Student Artist
gary sue. 
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Artguy71 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017
Sad that some people need themselves to be perfect in fiction, I am considering including myself as a character in a tech based web comic, based in the mid 80's but have no plans to do anything like this, I do plan on giving, him/me limits, and flaws, and weaknesses, I know who I am and know I could never could have been like this... or anyone that I seriously aspire to be...
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CyberChangeling Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
The type of character I would love to see die in a gruesome way.
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:iconsmokebearcollection:
SmokeBearCollection Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017
Rick Sanchez, Don Draper, BoJack Horseman, Deadpool, and Eric Cartman fit this trope. It can be funny sometimes, but I think it's overly worshiped among fans. 
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toxicanvil243 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist
He kind of reminds me of JFK from Clone High XD
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MrAndoOfTheWoods Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i cant believe someone remembers clone high!!!!
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Dr-InSean Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017
Do you mind?  Some of us are trying to nail Catherine the Great here...Or should I say Catherine the So-So?
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vbictor98 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017
Voiced by Steven Blum and produced on Handicapped Squirrel Studios.
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yudrontheglatorian Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
THIS is what mary sue/gary stu means!

so we can all stop stretching this term to something obscure like "powerful female character means mary sue and mary sues are bad so powerful female character are bad!"

PS: the mary sue litmus test is garbage! just make the character you want to make and if you want to make it better, just think how to make what you enjoy enjoyable for others. by simply taking and asking for criticism or reflecting your own work. there is no objective limit, because some people would consider a character bad, while others enjoy this certain character. taste is subjective.
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Gyaarados Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Exactly! The term Mary Sue (and Gary Stu but not to that extent) is ridiculously overused. It's supposed to be an overly perfect and unbelievable character who breaks all plots they are in.  Because everything has to revolve around them, because they never have to deal with consequences, etc... because theyre badly written. Not just a character who is very beautiful or strong or whatever. The main problem imo with a mary sue is that their good traits are unbelievable for the audience. 
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GreatToaNui Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I agree, stop throwing around the term whenever a character is successful, people! 
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readingwarrior1 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
I don't think either get the true meaning of Mary/Gary-sues.

They're basically characters that are sooooo perfect that there are literally no faults with them what so ever.

I mean they can burn down an orphanage/hospital and everyone would think they're just being mischievous pranksters.

Or they can be like Bella Swan from the Twilight series.

Bland, boring and not ugly but i wouldn't say she's a mode eitherl but for some reason she has two admittedly just a little bit hotter guys (who are also bland and boring) fighting over her.

That's what I gathered anyway.

Then again I mostly read parody/humor fanfics that have Mary/Gary-sues.
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SugaryAshes Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Is it just me or does he totally look like Brandon Jones from EasyAllies?
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powerman2000 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017
OMG...i thought i was the ONLY one!
Either we are the only two OG EasyAllies VG podcast nerds, or there must be more people who watched Gamer Trailers back in the day. :) But ya... total hero face that dude has. Ill follow him on a voyage to destroy evil with that commanding, brilliant Voice.
"I LOVE THE XBOX"!!!
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DexterousDecarius Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017
I thought he looked like Tycho Brahe from Penny Arcade 
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ChrisMCampbell Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Still Better than Mike McCuckygrope; the male feminist, games journalist and serial rapist. And he works out more.
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EIRivero Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017
man, thank good that i enter to see your comic, the first panel ooks really weird when seen in thumbnail.
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fulcrum77 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*cough*timbuckley*cough*
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elfoxyx Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Student General Artist
I've heard good things about groundhog day.
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Regina316 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017
My reaction to this: So basically James Potter? (Alright, so except the everybody adores him part I guess, since there was that *one* person... )
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:iconfrozirescorner:
FroziresCorner Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Me: *laughs in gay*
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:iconimfuckinartist:
ImFuckinArtist Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i like gays
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flabbergastingdragon Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
awee the guy in the green t-shirt
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JambeeBot Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017
Wow. I literally just binged all the comics on the OG website. How straaangeeee.
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TheDemonGirl84 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
So...the classic douschbag’s outlook on life? I know a lot of guys who act like this.
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AllofEverything Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I actually know a few people who are just like this IRL...
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HumbleMarty Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017   General Artist
The all wizard basketball team sounds fun though. Make them all unfamiliar with anything that's not magic and you'll have a great story.
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purpledragon267 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 1, 2017   Artist
Top 10 Anime Villains
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:iconwarriorkitowo:
WarriorkitOwO Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i feel so bad for that weird looking dude with the paper stuck to his back
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TiffanyTheRobloxian Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
me too
e v a n  s h o u l d  d i e
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WarriorkitOwO Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ye
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kenyastarflight Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
This has probably been said before, but this guy reminds me painfully of the main character from "Least I Could Do."  Yikes...
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