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David Ben-Gurion (born David Grün; 16 October 1886 – 1 December 1973) was the primary founder of the State of Israel and the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Ben-Gurion's passion for Zionism, which began early in life, led him to become a major Zionist leader and Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization in 1946. As head of the Jewish Agency from 1935, and later president of the Jewish Agency Executive, he was the de facto leader of the Jewish community in Palestine, and largely led its struggle for an independent Jewish state in Mandatory Palestine. On 14 May 1948, he formally proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel, and was the first to sign theIsraeli Declaration of Independence, which he had helped to write. Ben-Gurion led Israel during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, and united the various Jewish militias into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Subsequently, he became known as "Israel's founding father". (Wikipedia)

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ThePhilosophicalJew Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great quote, long like Ben-Gurion!
In Look magazine of 16th January 1962, David Ben Gurion,
laid down his plans for world domination with Jerusalem
as the global world capital:

"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: The Cold War will be a thing of the past.
Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure
of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union…"

[Glasnost, Perestroika & Gorbachev were right on time in 1987 and going according to plan]

"…On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and the rising Political
importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned
economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a
Socialist and democratic regime."

"With the exception of the U.S.S.R. as a federated Eurasian State, all other continents will become
united in a world alliance at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be
abolished and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a shrine of the
prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court
of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah."

- David Ben Gurion

(Look magazine 16th January 1962)
Centurion030 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
"There is no God"
- The Bible
KeldBach Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
Agree. God is just an illusion in peoples' head.
Centurion030 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
The Steadfast Fool

The most dangerous type of fool is a steadfast fool. The Hebrew word nâbâl (naw-BAWL), which means “stupid, wicked,” identifies this type of person. Elsewhere in the Old Testament, nâbâl also is translated as vile person.

A steadfast fool totally rejects God and His ways“The fool [nâbâl] hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good” (Psalm 14:1). This type of fool is self-confident and close-minded. He is his own god, freely gratifying his lower nature. It is his goal to draw as many others as possible into his evil ways. Attempts to reprove him will be futile and bring frustration to the one who tries to influence him. Only God can successfully reprove a steadfast fool.

KeldBach Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
Ha ha, that made my day. You're even more funny than the Jehovah's Witnesses who knocked on my door the other day.

I guess I should now be waiting for this fictive figure to successfully reprove me for being 'my own god' :D
Centurion030 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017
KeldBach Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
But Ben-Gurion is not an illusion. He was a real person and knew perfectly well that Jewish terror groups (like the Irgun and Stern Gang) took the land by force, killing and displacing some 700,000 Arabs in their vicious attacks. And today these terror groups have merged into the IDF who continue this genocidal behaviour every single day. That's what this piece is about, since you apparently missed the point.
Centurion030 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017

No. I did some research on this actually. It's from a so-called conversation the author had with Ben Gurion, written 20 years AFTER the conversation supposedly took place AND 5 years after Ben Gurion had passed -- which allowed no rebuttal.

It's your narrative that wishes to believe that.

Questionable, Unverified Source: Clifford claims that Ben-Gurion wrote: "If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural, we have taken their country." In fact, according to Nahum Goldmann, Ben-Gurion allegedly said this to him. Goldmann was an adversary of Ben-Gurion, and he came out with this alleged quote, verbatim, in his book published two decades later (The Jewish Paradox, 1978), five years after Ben-Gurion died. There was no recording of the quote, and Ben-Gurion was no longer around to dispute it.

And, finally, here's a real Ben-Gurion quote that Clifford chose not to share:

In our state there will be non-Jews as well — and all of them will be equal citizens; equal in everything without any exception; that is: the state will be their state as well. ...The attitude of the Jewish State to its Arab citizens will be an important factor—though not the only one—in building good neighbourly relations with the Arab States. If the Arab citizen will feel at home in our state, and if his status will not be the least different from that of the Jew, and perhaps better than the status of the Arab in an Arab state, and if the state will help him in a truthful and dedicated way to reach the economic, social, and cultural level of the Jewish community, then Arab distrust will accordingly subside and a bridge to a Semitic, Jewish-Arab alliance, will be built... (Ba-Ma'Araha Vol IV, Part 2, pp. 260, 265, quoted in Fabricating Israeli History, Efraim Karsh, p.67)

You may wish to look into how much land was PURCHASED before Israel gained independence.

And an equal amount of Jews were expelled from their own homes in the Arab countries.

The IDF is the most moral army in history. But apparently teaching the young to kill Jews must be fine with you. Digging and creating tunnels with cement meant for hospitals, schools, and homes must be fine with you. Vehicle jihad must be fine with you. Placing missiles and weapons right next to schools, hospitals, and homes must be fine with you. Knife attacks must be fine with you. Stone attacks on innocents must be fine with you. I have not ONCE seen you condemn that kind of behavior.

Israel was willing to live the the two-state program back in 1948, the Arabs weren't. It's the same now - the Palestinians are on record for wanting the destruction of Israel.

Who's genocidal now?

Such incredible, and vile hate. for a tiny little state like Israel.
KeldBach Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
Good to see you have done your homework. As for the first quote, that's probably the correct source. Mine was translated from Yiddish -> German -> English which should explain the minor differences.

As for the second quote: that looks like a perfect model for a secular, democratic one-state solution. Unfortunately, that's not what the Zionist regime in Israel have in mind these days. Alone the new name, The Jewish State of Israel, speaks volumes.

Regarding the IDF: I totally agree with the other commenter. And so does some brave Israeli soldiers operating under the name Breaking the Silence. One of my Jewish friends actually deserted the army during the Lebanon war back in the 1980s. He couldn't stand to be part of the grave war crimes Israel committed.

Yes, Israel is indeed a tiny little state, but nonetheless utterly racist and genocidal. Sad but true.
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KeldBach Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
I'll get back to you later. Busy right now :)
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