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About Vengeance in the Holy Bible
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Published: March 10, 2016
No, this isn't an order issued by some crazy Jihadi commander from Islamic State, or a sinister verse from the holy Quran for that matter, but instructions given by Moses to his generals about how to treat prisoners and share the spoils of war, as substantiated in the Christian Bible. Read the full passage here: Numbers 31. Never mind that Moses was acting on behalf of his vicious Hebrew god, Yahweh, and that this gruesome incident took place some 1,500 years before the first Christians even started to emerge, but it's nonetheless part of their sacred scriptures along with the entire Old Testament. After all, Christianity claims to be about compassion and foregiveness, not vengeance and greed.

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As a Christian, I always feel unfit with this.

This is where many would point out that Christianity is violent, but that is not the case. Unlike the Quran where it straight up says for every single generation to kill infidels. Invasions given by God were on his 'specific orders'. Nothing that should be handled so lightly.

Also the battles that took place during the time were against wicked nations beyond saving. Someone may look up a single acceptable lifestyle from these places and then quickly dash to the nearest trash can and puke.

The slaying of children is horrible just as our, but it's not like children are free of committing evil acts, at least around older ages. And after killing the adults, I doubt they will just say 'Hey cool, new grown ups. Let's live with them without any vengeance against our fallen families.'

As for the virgins, a lot of people will call this out but I don't believe this is straight up rape. Which the punishment of rape is a mixed bag (I doubt there were anyone with a mind of a serial rapist within the Hebrews back then. But for the ones that happened, well I'm no psychologist to figure out their state of mind).

Recently I see this more as men marrying willful women in order to at least give the people they destroyed a chance to continue their bloodline without any passed sins from the corrupted nations. (But then I will have mixed thoughts on about the children killing)

But it's not like this is for the Hebrew's gain only. It's been shown multiple times that they are judged the same as others when they fall into sin, and the battle are against sin itself, not for them.

Christianity, following Jesus Christ, is just that. Going by Jesus's teachings to spread peace and charity.

Granted "I'm no Bible Scholar", I'm just stating my current thoughts into this. So someone else will probably have a better explanation.

No angry criticism towards you or anything. Technically anything said for or against this wouldn't be considered criticism at all.

And let's not forget that the Old Testament is shared with Judaism ........ but then if anyone criticize just the religion alone, people will go SJW on them no matter what these days.
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I don't know what and how they teach you things there, but in Greece The Old Testament is a book that just reveals us how some things happened, from the birth of the world till the coming of Christ. They don't teach us the Old Testament in order to follow it. They teach us as things we should believe and follow only the words of Jesus who came with new laws.
Because it matters and maybe some don't know it in Greece more than 95% we are Orthodox Christians.
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The bible was written by a bunch of misogynistic men sitting around bored in the desert and high on whatever opiate plants were abundant at the time...having drug-induced visions. 
Graeystone's avatar
As usual another atheist/God Hater thinking the Old Covenant applies to Christians. It doesn't. That was all Israel.
DieHard300's avatar
Who's hating? this picture only tells what your beliefs says.
Graeystone's avatar
Which are no longer practiced to the point that even Israel doesn't do that kind of stuff anymore.
'Old Testament' - Where the believers were.
New Testament - Where the believers are now.
DieHard300's avatar
There's some pearls on the new testament too but I wont enter on that. I'll just point that for something supposedly written by "god" have way too many changes. Sounds more like what "god" is depends on humanity and not otherwise.
Graeystone's avatar
The problem isn't God, its man. Its man who keep changing and more times than not for the worse.
DieHard300's avatar
Of course the problem isn't god, because he's Our invention, humankind just likes to make excuses for their misbehaviour.
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"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."  ~ Matthew 5:17
Graeystone's avatar
That was Jesus living a life without sin and giving the True Interpretation to the Law. And the fact that Jesus told people to stop being 'Heavy Handed' with things like Stoning, shows man wasn't doing those kind of Laws in the correct manner.
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It's too bad the Father-God (Yahweh) didn't send Jesus sooner . . . perhaps centuries of misinterpretation and acts of war and "justice" (stoning) could of been avoided.
Graeystone's avatar
Christians desire Jesus' return but we know He will return when it is His time, not ours.
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Indeed . . . HE does what HE wants . . . when HE wants . . . if HE wants . . .
Graeystone's avatar
There is no 'if HE wants'. Jesus doesn't break His Promises.
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"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." ~Matthew 24:42 (King James) . . . Sorry, I can't set my watch to that.
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OnlyTheGhosts's avatar
It's the dark side of human nature and tribalism, there are religions of high ideals but also religions that only masquerade as such or were hijacked by more self-serving sociopaths. Religions can restrain human impulses to commit the most malicious horrible acts, or provide the excuses for committing them. Modern 'civilised' people aren't the natural state, and our ways are the exception to what has occurred throughout most of our written history, and even more so what was normal for hundreds of thousands (millions?) of years.
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:o It's sick... As can be only the human race. All this mythology is evil because humans did from the stories their law in religion... :(

P.S. Lovely series of the wise typography. :nod:
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Thank you, I'm glad you like my small pieces :)
ashimbabbar's avatar
given the Bible's incoherence, it's very probably a rewriting of the distant past from the priests of a nation that had been much kicked about.

Still it shows they'd have loved to receive that sort of order from their god… so maybe not people you'd care to associate with.

On the other hand the practice was hardly restricted to them: since we're going for works of fiction this is what the Greeks claimed to have done at Troy, it's also what they did on occasion in theoretically more civilized times ( the Athenians at Melos, Alexander at Tyre… ); the Romans did that sort of thing pretty often. I grant they did not explicitly claim to do so on divine orders since they felt OK with doing it it implied their gods had no objection whatever.

No surprise that a good many early christians thought Yahweh was actually the devil or hardly better…
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"Amen" :roll:
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Thank you so much for the support, Lisa :hug:
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