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My Thoughts on Art Tipping

Thu Mar 29, 2018, 1:13 PM by kaons:iconkaons:



SO! Lots of conversations happening with friends lately about when you should tip your artists, if you should tip your artist and the etiquette around that. It's not something often talked about like tipping wait staff or food service, so I figured it'd be good to get it out in the open again! I know there have been a few journals and polls about this , but I thought it'd be a great idea to have a discussion. Here are my thoughts on tipping: 


When to tip:


  • When you damn well feel like it and/or feel that the artist is doing an amazing job and really going above and beyond
  • If you order something that you know is complex and is going to require more hours than the artist calculated for their base price 
  • If you are aware that the artist is doing something for less than the art is worth - ie, sales, etc. 
  • Because you are a good person

How much to tip:


  • I generally adhere to 10% above the base price of the commission for all commissions
  • 20% for above and beyond artists 
  • 30% if your character is going to take for stinking ever (looking at you people with multiple wings ;) 

Discussion Questions:


  1. How much do you tip?
  2. When do you tip? 
  3. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally? 
  4. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions? 
  5. Additional thoughts?





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NorthGull Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. How much do you tip?
I rarely tip, but when I do, it's between $5 and $25, depending on the price of the commission I ordered.

2. When do you tip?
When I feel that the artist is charging me less than they could get for it, spending a lot more time than originally anticipated on it, if they were phenomenal about keeping me in the loop on the status and asking for my opinion, or if I ask for changes.

3. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally?
Definitely not. I despise our tipping culture in the US, and the only reason I tip at restaurants is because I used to be a waitress and I know they get next to nothing as an hourly wage. Unfortunately, that falls on the customer to make up, which I believe is ridiculous. When I commission artwork, I typically see that the artist is getting what equates to a healthy hourly wage. If it's not, I give more - again, because I feel that everyone should have a dependable hourly wage no matter what they do. 

4. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions?
Definitely not, for all the same reasons. Artists should not expect to be given extra money, and they should also not be disappointed or upset if they don't receive extra money. 

5. Additional thoughts?
It is my belief that tips should only be given for work that is truly above and beyond. Like I said, I really only tip at restaurants because they get shitty pay. I had quite a few times where I came out at a LOSS when working as a waiter because the government required my employer to automatically include an assumed 10% tip as part of our taxed amount - which means that if I got anything less than 10% tip on those tables, I'd be paying taxes on money I never received. That is SUCH bullshit! I love the way other first world countries do it - they get a healthy wage that they can actually live on, and tipping is only done in the rare instances that you truly received a phenomenal experience! 
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Ellessy Featured By Owner Edited Mar 30, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
1. How much do you tip?
I don't tip often at all. Dropped a few points here and there cause I like people/wanted to support them. Then again I don't commission much, I get most of my art through trading x3 My tips are generally small (I can't always afford much extra), in the region of a few 100 points or 2-5 euros/dollars/pounds depending.

2. When do you tip?
Generally when I want to help someone out/feel like they could use it/are under pricing themselves.
 
3. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally?
In Belgium tipping is not part of our culture. It is never expected and most people will actually deliberately not tip if there is an obvious, pleading sort of tip jar or if the waiter asks. Understand that waiters here easily make more than minimum wage (due to the hours they work, legally they often have to be paid bonuses), have medical insurance etc etc. So they don't NEED the tips. Therefore tipping usually only happens if the service was exceptional, the staff went above and beyond or if people are happy. Tips can be small, as in the bill was 9.90 and you leave the 10 cents, or big. Sometimes when it gets out waiters were ungrateful for a small tip (it happens in the smaller village cafes etc) people will refuse to tip in future. This means I personally don't think tipping should always happen, because then what is the point? Now it's a way to say "thank you, your service was better than what I'm used to"; but if you always tip, it becomes meaningless.

4. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions?
I never expect to be tipped. My prices don't compensate me for the hours I put into my art if it comes down to it. But let's face it, I'd make art anyway, so it's nice to earn something and have the satisfaction of making someone happy and bringing their character to life! I make art for release, happiness, relaxation... I love doing commissions so I just expect people to pay my listed price and that's that :D

5. Additional thoughts?
I think tipping is up to the purchaser. I for one don't expect one; I've set my prices for my art and am happy with them. If people do want to tip, I won't stop them (in fact I'd probably be extremely happy and flattered xD), but I definitely don't think it should be an expectation when purchasing art. (As many artists have set their own prices!)
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Charlie--X Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do not order commissions, so I can't answer the first few questions. As an artist, I can say I do not expect tips at all. I expect to be paid what the set price is and that is all. If the customer feels like I deserve the tip or just want to be generous that is great but I would never assume or expect one. 

I was given a tip once and I initially thought the person overpaid, but they then explained it was a way of showing appreciation. I greatly appreciated it and thought it was a very nice gesture!

I think expecting tips ruins the meaning of them. Like others have said, we are not waiters getting underpaid. We as artist choose our prices and if we don't like what we get paid, we can fix that. 
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AMillionLights Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018  Student Digital Artist
  1. How much do you tip?

I don't commission artist much, but every now and again i find a great artist i just send them some points. Nothing amazing, but 20 points, 100 here, maybe 150 there. Just something.

  1. When do you tip? 

For amazing artist who really try hard to produce amazing art. I also like to tip artist who do a lot of work for others, but don't get anything for it. For example, artist who donate to shows. Imagine drawing tons of images for others without getting paid, or adding point donation, and receiving nothing back.

  1. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally?

In my society, we don't tip. Waiters and waitresses don't require tips to get paid. Ours get paid a good rate, just like everyone else. In fact, a lot of full time waiters get a very comfortable wage. I've never tipped, because we don't do it.

  1. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions?

I don't expect to be tipped for commissions. I would like to think people who enjoy my work would donate some money or something, but its fine if they don't.

  1. Additional thoughts?

nah

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elizahveta Featured By Owner Edited Mar 29, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
  1. How much do you tip? When i have tipped, around ten percent.
  2. When do you tip? I am ashamed to say that I dont tip often, but this is because where I come from tipping is not a thing and not something that I have grown up doing. I think you might find that America is huge about tipping but many other countries in the world do not share that culture, in fact the USA probably the biggest about tipping anywhere in the world. When I was in the USA we tipped eveywhere we went because we knew that a great deal of the money made by waitstaff etc. is through tipping - this is something that is just not done in australia and various other countries. Tipping is very modest in europe and, like Australia, it's not expected in the UK (but of course very much appreciated).
  3. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally? I think this is a tough one because with art there are two ways of paying - Up front or after completion. When you pay up front for something you dont have what you paid for, so I think its hard to expect a customer to cough up extra for something they don't yet have possession of. When you're tipping at a restaraunt you're tipping for the good srrvice and the food that you have had, but with art if you havent been given anything yet it's hard to know if you should tip. What if an artist rushed your commission or took double the turnaround time? I am guilty of this occasionally, and I would feel very guilty if someone paid me extra for a bad job. If you get something magnificent that you can tell the artist has devoted time and love to, I think absolutely you should tip!
  4. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions? I personally do not expect to be tipped for commissions, though I do think I am underpriced. My competitors have sold manips for over $300 and I have yet to sell anything over $120. It's this gap that makes me believe I should be tipped, but I don't expect it!
  5. Additional thoughts? Like some of the other comments I think it's up to the buyer, not the seller and from my perspective as someone from a country where tipping isn't much of a thing I think it's important to consider cultures around the world before expecting tips. When I worked as a waitress I was never tipped once and i'm okay with that. I've never once been tipped for art either and i'm okay with that. I may be totally wrong but my understanding of tips is the following: 1. to make up for a low wage, and 2. to reward someone for exceptional service. If i see either of these things I would of course tip. 
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Astralseed Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018  Professional General Artist
  1. How much do you tip?
Since I very very rarely commission artists for anything I don't think I've ever tipped an artist for a commission before.  If I were to tip someone though, how much I tipped would depend on the service received and or if I feel like they are under pricing themselves.  
  1. When do you tip? 
As mentioned above, I suck and don't tip because I generally don't commission.  
  1. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally? 
I think tipping for commissions should be on a case by case basis.  Am I asking someone to draw a crazy difficult character in a crazy difficult pose?  Yeah, I should probably tip for that!  (SammieAsMagPie have you tipped Winzer for that yet?) 
  1. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions? 
Absolutely not.  Artists should price their commissions as they wish to be paid for them and not expect the customers to tip on top of that.  As hairama said, this isn't the food industry where people rely on tips for the bulk of their income (and if for some reason an artist is, I feel they should rethink how they handle their commissions).  
  1. Additional thoughts?
I think this is an interesting topic and had no clue that there were even artists out there who expect tips! D:  As an artist who takes on commissions I've been tipped a few times and it's always flattering, if I weren't so poor though I'd probably turn tips down.  
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Winzer Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Laugh LOL 
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Astralseed Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2018  Professional General Artist
can't stop, wont stop!
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WICKEDHARLEY Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018  Hobbyist Photographer
I honestly never thought of this, but I wish I had! I think it’s wonderful to tip artists, I feel like they often get underpaid. I often can’t afford too much myself and often overspend, but this has really made me think and I believe I will tip whenever I can! Glad you have posted it, I hope word spreads :D
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hairama Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2018
  1. How much do you tip? This depends on the piece I've ordered. Usually I'll add around $5 - $10 to a tip but sometimes, for smaller or simpler orders, I'll stick to around $2-$4 extra. Again, this really depends on the order.

  2. When do you tip? When I feel like the artist is under pricing themselves. Most often I drop tips in with my order because I don't usually make an order 'because I want your art now GDI' but more because I want to support a fellow artist and I happen to have enough on hand to order from them at the time that their commissions are open. This means that the majority of the art I've ordered has come from people who are on their first or second round of commissions and still haven't quite hit their mark yet on what to price their art. So I'll throw in more to bring what I'm paying up to where I think their art should be starting at. Afterwards, if I still have enough left over when I get the final product I'll add another tip.

    Very rarely have I tipped simply because of exemplary service or an artist going beyond expectations. Artists who normally do this have been established for a long time as a commissioner (when I order from them) and have their prices already very fair for their time/ service.

  3. Do you think you SHOULD tip always? Occasionally? I don't think there should be a requirement for how much or how often you tip an artist. This is not the food industry where people are being paid $2.50 an hour (maybe more now, IDK I haven't checked) where the literal bulk of their income is expected to be from Tips. There are quite a few commission-based jobs out there that do not require tips and don't usually receive tips either. In cases like this tipping should be 100% up to the buyer and if they have the money for it, or want to do it. Putting some sort of requirement stigma on it will make people feel uncomfortable. If an artist feels they should be receiving that +10% for the image then they should raise their prices by 10%

  4. Should you, as an artist, expect to be tipped for commissions? Nope. In fact, I'm rather shocked when I do get tipped. Art isn't something I really anticipate being tipped for and the first time it happened it was a huge shock and, honestly, I thought they'd made a mistake and over payed.

  5. Additional thoughts?
    Really, this is something that should be up to a buyer, not the seller. Commission based artists discussing it is going to make potential customers rather uncomfortable about the fact that they don't tip (this is just my thought on it). I, personally, won't commission someone who already has very high prices if they're upcharging for 'paypal fees' (which the TOS is that the seller is responsible for that to begin with) so it's just as unlikely that I'll buy art from someone who expects Tips and even mentions it in their journal. A tip should be just that, a tip. A small token to say 'hey, thank you again for doing this for me. I really appreciate it.' It's something that you, as the customer, feel the artist/server/whatever has earned/deserves. Whether for handling your attitude well, completing the order in a shorter time frame than expected or just providing the order above your expectations - or, maybe you really just feel like being generous? Either way, it's the buyers money, so its their choice what they do with it.

    On the flip side; being the artist it can be incredibly surprising and flattering to receive that tip.

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