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Moebius, Guardian of Time

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LittleBrick Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
more artwork like this please...don't get me wrong, kain pictures are the best, but sometimes it's good to have a change. perhaps a drawing for every guardian in the same style? and liutenants? i'll end the suggestions here.

love the pic.
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012   Traditional Artist
I have some creepy arts posted too for change :)
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AnkhFalcon Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
very well done
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2011   Traditional Artist
Thank you!
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Darkness-Nightguard Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2011
Cool, as always! :D
Like it!
Btw.: Is it me or are Moebius' hands at SR2 for PC huge? I mean, they're real paws!
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2011   Traditional Artist
Thank you!
Really? I didn't noticed yet :)
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Darkness-Nightguard Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2011
Maybe it's just on me ;)
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SilazVarulven Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2011
Moe is an a**hole, but I like his clothing *LOL*

Great work
The shading is cool
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2011   Traditional Artist
Thank you :)

Hehe guess Moebius is not your favourite character :laughing:
I like him, although his intentions were to generate a genocidal war and he was also mislead by the Elder, he was a clever player with the time manipulations. His best was making Kain kill William, he not only shattered the flow of time with a paradox, but also cornered Kain, forcing him into a dilemma with two options, but neither of them was the right solution.
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SilazVarulven Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2011
I don't like Moebius.^^
He is just preoccupied with abhoring vampires and creating "phantasmagorias".



D'oh!!...my english got a bit rusty over time. I'm sorry ^^
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yusr Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2010
Haha, this is great! You really captured him perfectly, as the others have said.
I just adore that smile, and the wickedness the shadows create. I always hated
his character, but recently became extremely fond of it while replaying the games.
I'm only now really appreciating the evilness people can muster in themselves, the
intelligence and thoughtful emotions which must be involved.. It's so interesting!
Of course, I still adore the emotions and conviction of character involved in being a
"goodie-good," but the real depth and even beauty of the other side of the spectrum
was tragically lost on me before.
However, I think that your assessment of Crystal Dynamic's thinking in the earlier
comments is a bit unfair. I think their decision to devolve Kain only stayed true to
Silicon Knights's Blood Omen, and not the other way around. In the scene where
Kain meets Vorador in Blood Omen, Kain mentions twice that if he allowed himself
to accept his curse, he would turn into what Vorador has--- A green, ugly, and
self-indulgent thing. He says first when meeting Vorador:
'In the bowels of that black forest I found something worse than Hell. A vision of
what I was becoming . . .
'
And at the end of their meeting, he says:
And so I left that place, with clear knowledge of what sort of monster I would become
if I let my curse consume me.
'
And since Soul Reaver was made on the assumption that Kain chose to rule Nosgoth and
align himself with the idea that Vampires are indeed superior beings(since he hated his
Vampirism in the beginning, and only wanted rid of it), that means exactly that he "allowed
his curse to consume him," and therefor they're in fact staying true to the original dialogue
in the game. I have to say in their position, I would've done exactly the same thing.
Saying something like "Crystal symply uglified and demonized Kain because they didn't wanted
gamers like him, they wanted them liking Raz." seems like an incredible over-simplification, to
me.. I'm sure on some level you're right, since Soul Reaver was originally meant to be separate
from the Legacy of Kain, but again, I think it's a convenient thing to say that they simply slapped
on the name Kain. I also think the idea of devolving Kain is helpful to the gamers, in that it makes
the effect of time seem more real to them, since other characters like Ariel and Moebius do not
age, and if Kain didn't, then the time would only seem like a statement, and not feel real at all.
Moving on to your comments on Raziel, I feel similarly, and see clearly that his character is
unfitting for the world in it's naivety and willingness to be a pawn, but it's a fact that, again, I
can only get behind. Having a second main character who is merciless and powerful as Kain
would feel like they're trying to overshadow Kain, and keeping Raziel as a more weak seeming
character, they're able to amplify each others' personalities, which creates interest, while keeping
Kain as the more dominant and therefor main character. If Raziel did not have the more "good"
nature that he has, he wouldn't have been able to achieve his end in the game to help Kain in
his battle against the elder god-- If Raziel were more like Kain, he surely wouldn't have allowed
himself to be a martyr absorbed into the reaver. I think it's mere bad luck for the games that many
people played the Soul Reaver games first, and ended up thinking of Kain in an unintended way.
And doing that didn't always have that effect---- even though I played the Soul Reaver games first,
I didn't think of Kain that way at all, but rather, from the first they show him aside from the opening
scene of the first game(which is all in Raziel's bitter point of view, so little can be gotten of it of Kain's
character), when showed outside of Raziel's point of view at the end of the first SR game, and
throughout the second, it's very clear that Kain is not some generic villain character, but a hero in his
own right, with incredible intelligence and motives that aren't 100% self indulgent, as Moebius's are.
I don't see the Soul Reaver games as trying to overshadow the Kain element of the Legacy of Kain
at all, but like Raziel's character, I see them as more meant to observe and explain the world,
which Raziel's truth-seeking self was able to accomplish better than the more aggressive and
forceful Kain(as intelligent as Kain is--- Don't think I'm trying to underplay that). Raziel's role as
a pawn of Moebius and the Elder God allowed the viewer of the games to be thrown into specific
frames of mind that could only be accomplished the way they were done, which is what I think is
Raziel's value as a character, basically a tool through which we can learn about specific elements
of the story in a way where we can more appreciate their impact, since we've been lead through
them as that pawn, and therefor been more able to experience the emotions ourselves. Kain, who
was already once Moebius's pawn, and who's character wouldn't allow him to play that role again,
wouldn't have been able to do what Raziel's more sympathetic and caring role seems to have been
meant to. On a last note, I have to emphasis again on how it's important for Raziel's character
to have been as "good" as it was again, since it allowed for contrast with Kain's. By which I mean,
by itself, Raziel's character is certainly not a "good" one, but only because it is competing slightly
with Kain's does it appear so. If Raziel were next to, say, the main character of a Final Fantasy
game, Raziel would definitely appear as an evil thing, with his uncaring about any lives which aren't
directly related to his, and his deeds all as means to a selfish end. However, since the other
characters of LoK do much more evil than Raziel, and Raziel only trying to discover the truth for the
most part(after he's done with trying for revenge), Raziel appears like a saint.
But yeah, other than that, I totally agree that Raziel is an annoying emo bitch, whom Kain totally
pwns as a main character. :b
... Wooow, that was a much longer comment than I intended. What I meant to say in the comment
was basically, "awesome drawing!!" And indeed, it is an awesome drawing, of an awesome character.
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011   Traditional Artist
Lookie, a long rambling for you to read! :D
I wrote the reply on your comment weeks earlier, saved it in notepad because dA was bugging, and completely forgot to post it.

Moebius was always one of my favourites, I like Kain the most, and also the Elder, Mortanius and Moebius. They were all very intelligent, maybe that's why I like them much better than other characters who're rather supposed to be liked in first place. I liked the best when Moebius made Kain travelling back in time and kill William, that was really a great plan staying next to the young William as his advisor and raising him to be the Nemesis, spent decades to set up the trap for Kain.

I don't see green Kain any true to his original Blood Omen self, when I first played a SR game, I didn't even recognized Kain in the green monster, as didn't looked like Kain and also didn't behaved like Kain, it took me a few cutscenes to recognize after I was pointlessly waiting to see Kain (I knew him from the Blood Omens before) appearing at last. Felt like it was a damn new and different character from the original Kain I knew before.
I rather think he meant Vorador's nature and lifestyle when he called him a monster in BO1, that's what he didn't wanted to become. Kain in the Blood Omens called vampirism a curse, so did the ancients, wondering if Kain's true destiny aside of reclaiming the Pillars to his own kind was to free them from the curse. Not as if Kain didn't enjoyed being a vampire. The ancients were high and powerful creatures, and lost some of their power with the curse of vampirism, as they worshipped the Scion as their saviour even before corruption set in, and the Reaver was forged before the human's rebellion, so the ancients that time didn't knew about the human guardians and the fall of the Pillars. Who knows what creatures the ancients were before they were cursed with vampirism.

Green Kain seems to be built on the stereotype people dislike monstrous things, Crystal created an instant sympathy of the gamers towards Raziel with the opening scene as he, the pretty boy walked in, and got tormented by the ugly demon simply "out of jealousy", and his purpose was to be present as Raziel's greatest enemy. Especially the deleted ending makes it obvious when Raziel kills Ariel and later Kain after a very-very Star Wars-esque cutscene. SR1 was rewritten in the half of the process, but Kain still looks like what he was according to the first script, a very negative antagonist secondary character to make a boss fight for Raziel. The whole SR1 is soaked with hatred towards Kain, only the later games tried to ease this and rehabilitate Kain, and tried to make some connection between BO1 and SR1 as the two games had nothing in common at all aside of running under the same title.
Wondering if SR supposed to be separate from Legacy of Kain, why they made it's enemy character to be Kain.
I don't like this devolving thing, Janos didn't turned ugly although he's way older than Kain neither Moebius or Mortanius (Morty even felt younger in Defiance than in BO1) the whole "evolution" story seems to be an explanation on the different character design as it strikes Kain only. Kain even doesn't have the same personality in each SR games as he was Darth Vader in SR1, and became Yoda in Defiance, but never had been that contradicting and complex personality "villain hero" he was in the Blood Omens.

Raziel is already overshadowing Kain, and exactly because of he's a naive and simple goodguy personality, that makes him easier to understand and sympathize with for the gamers, and 3 games of 5 are about Raziel anyways, Kain is just a walk-on character in those games, and not their main hero.
That's true Kain and Raziel are each other's opposites in personality, only the characters are not in balance as the Legacy of Kain games are identified with Raziel.
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yusr Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2011
((Ohh, yay, I love to read long ramblings! :heart:
Hope you do, too! If not, sorry... ))
Haha, well I would hope it's more than looks
that change in a millennial; you'd have to be
more mature in personality, too. I can understand
to an extent how you have trouble thinking of him
as that same Kain, but it would still be impossible
to imagine someone living 1000 years and not cooling
down considerably, comparing Kain as he is in Blood
Omen and BO2 to what he is in later games, is like
expecting a new born or a 5 year old human to be
exactly the same when he's 80. And 80 year old man
has long since abandoned crying over a broken toy,
and has turned to wisdom.
(side note, when the ancient vampires existed,
wouldn't there have been a time guardian who
knew about all of that? I took that as why
the reaver was forged, as a prophesy fulfiller.
for what would happen all that time later.)

I have a hard time seeing Kain as that stereo-
type, since that stereotype would've called for
a Kain who's personality was still immature
and rather than just slightly crippling Raziel,
would have spent lengthy time torturing him.
(Or maybe we haven't seen many of the same examples.
I haven't seen much of the Star Wars movies, to which
you keep alluding.) But if Kain were built on the
"people dislike monstrous things" stereotype, then
wouldn't they have kept Raziel "pretty"? He
turns out looking like some pathetic, horrible,
diseased creature from the dark, and way more
monstrous than the devolved Kain, so I don't see
why they would build Kain on that stereotype, if
they were intending to put the "goody" character
in the same boat. I think Raziel's opening
appearance was just to fit in with the target
audience, which were, stereotypically, goth kids
who wore black lipstick and long ponytails.
Annd.. There's a secret ending? I've never seen
it! So I have no idea what you're talking about.
Maybe my argument has less merit by my not seeing it,
but I don't know(having not seen it). Maybe it's for
those reasons that they rewrote it, and realized
that it was what sounds like lazy writing of good
guy vs. bad guy, and so they got off their asses
and changed it to make it less stupid.
And of course the whole SR1 is soaked in hatred
for Kain, because it's in Raziel's butthurt point
of view. At the end of the game, when Kain actually
shows up, and it's no longer from Raziel's words and
you're actually seeing Kain, you're afforded a
completely different view of him(especially since Kain
ultimately WINS that "boss fight")

Haha, I rather like the devolving thing, because you
get to see fun creatures, but maybe that's just me.
I think that Janos didn't really devolve because he
was one of the ancient vampires, who was a vampire
from birth, not like all of the ones who did devolve,
like Kain and all of his "offspring", who were just
people turned into vampire-like creatures, and not
the real vampires as they originally were(though,
backing up, Janos still had it in his dna to devolve,
if you'll remember in "the Machine" from Blood Omen 2,
so I suppose that was passed down to the later fake
vampires)
And... Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you said Mortanius
looked younger in Defiance, isn't that because he IS
younger? That whole ceremony took place before Blood
Omen.

And I still couldn't disagree with you more about the
overshadowing thing, Raziel could never overshadow
Kain in the series. No one spends time trying to
figure out someone they already can relate to.
And in every moment Raziel is on-screen, in SR1, SR2,
and a little less in Defiance, Kain is still the
overpowering force, ruling all of Raziel's thoughts
and decisions. If the gamer so much sympathizes with
Raziel, then they would have no choice but to feel
that dominance Kain has over Raziel, too. Basically,
every single LoK game is about Kain, while only 2.5
of them are kind of about Raziel, and even
that little bit of being about Raziel, they're about
Raziel's actions about Kain, making it less about
Raziel, still. I understand it's because you like
Kain so much as he is in BO/BO2 that accounts for your
negative reaction, but it's still unfair to, so easily,
dismiss those games as 'about Raziel' just because
Kain isn't visually on screen as often, because he is,
in essence, on screen every second that Raziel is.
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Zlukaka Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2010
He looks less anorexic than I remember from the games, but much more realistic. What can I say, great capture of the character and his essence. 8D I love your LOK arts... and non-Lok arts too. XD You know that C8
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you so much! :) I wanted him looking like a worthy enemy, and not just a skinny old man, even if he was manipulated and mislead by the Elder, he had very clever traps with manipulating the time. I liked the best when he made Kain kill William, making his own self the reason of the genocidal war against his own kind.
(sorry for the late reply) :)
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Zlukaka Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2010
You make me want to start playing LOK again XDDD *has to fight temptation, too busy*
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VipericVampire Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010
I wonder how you would draw the Elder God. Must need a LOT of paper. :XD:
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2010   Traditional Artist
Hehe I rather not drawing the Elder unless it's necessary, I find him the hardest to draw as he should look great too, and usually functioning as a background on works :D
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Lauretta-89 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010  Professional General Artist
I wonder what is he plotting... maybe a new evil plan to exterminate vampire kind??
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010   Traditional Artist
Surely he's always have something against vampire kind, mostly against Kain as he's the prophesized one who can save them :)
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Lauretta-89 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010  Professional General Artist
yeah.. I have to say it, Poor Kain !!!
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BeyondTheNytemare Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Brilliant capture! Moebius' eyes are alive with plotting and something wicked. Yet he was just a tool for eldie, how ironic yet fascinatiing a character he is.

Wonderful work :)
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you! :) I tried to be effective with showing him evil with the dropped shadow on his face, and the piercing gaze of his eyes under it. He and Eldie are a fitting enemies to Kain, I like in a story when an intelligent hero has an equal enemy.
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BeyondTheNytemare Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Makes for an interesting battle of wit as well as blade. Too bad the raz fans don't understand properly, also too bad that the sr games were written badly, if better handled it could've been a very well executed story with Kain showing his intellect as well as skill with a sword :D
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010   Traditional Artist
I wish the Legcy of Kain games were really about Kain as their title says, and were focused on the battle between Kain and the ELder and Moebius, and not revolving around the naive medling of goodie-good Raz. Even the uglifying of Kain wasn't needed, the "vampire devolution" is just a covering story to explain the different character design, it was built upon the psychology of stereotype thinking, Crystal symply uglified and demonized Kain because they didn't wanted gamers like him, they wanted them liking Raz. (and they did it wwith success as I saw many people saying how they hated Kain in SR1) They made Sillicon's fine character into a cliche antagonist, SR-Kain is simply a carbon-copied Darth Vader, only the black outfit and helmet is missing. :laughing:
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torzynge Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2010
Well, Kain looks brilliant in SR1 intro and throughout SR2 IMO.
Great drawing of Moe. He's one of my favourite LoK chars!
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2010   Traditional Artist
I don't like his appearance from the first time I saw him in a SR-game, it was shocking for me to see what Crystal did to Kain, at first I didn' even recognized him as I bought my first SR-game because I liked Kain in the Blood Omens, but he was twisted beyond recognition both in appearance and personality in the Raziel-games, he was not anymore the same character I liked.

Finally someone who likes Moe too! :D He's a great negative character, I also like the Elder God as they're evil, but very clever antagonists. I also like Mortanius, even if his role was way shorter, he was the third one next to Kain and the Elder who had a clear overlook on the events in Nosgoth.
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torzynge Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2010
Thanks for the reply =)
And they've completely screwed up Vorador in BO2 =( that was such an omission. Vorador could have been even bloodier and more violent char than Kain himself. But you're right, this game is about Kain and he is so absolutely perfect! And so are your artworks. Please, keep it on =)
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2010   Traditional Artist
You're welcome! :)
I think it's mostly Umah that screwed up Vorador, her presence was so damn unnecessary in the game (I'd have cut out Kain's lame queen-line too, that was so damn out of character) Vorador's actions and decisions were mostly determined by Umah, I didn't liked that. He was originally a cruel self-centric vampire who lived for his own pleasure, had way more demonic brides in BO1, and he didn't gave a crap about losing them when Kain took a visit and slaughtered everyone in his mansion, so it was so unfitting Vorador to be so caring with Umah.
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ChampionoftheLight Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010
It's really great. The posture; his hanging on to his staff for support makes him look weak and frail but his eyes just scream of lies, scheming and a hidden determination.

This is also the first time I see you draw a face that is so radically different from Kain's, and with such detail. I must say I think you did it perfectly.
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you so much! Yes, Moebius is physically weak and fragile, but as for his mind, he's a dangerous person as he succeeded to almost completely annihiliate the vampire kind and making the minds of humans fall to his words, making him the toughest enemy to the greatest warriors.

Kain is my favourite character from the series and like drawing him many times (plus he also can be put into dynamic battle scenes :) ) but drawing his enemies is an entertainment too.
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sangwiss16 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010
that's great !!
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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roach-lord Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
I do believe you have captured the essence of this scheming, wretched pawn quite well! MAD PROPS TO THE HOJO!
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you! Maybe Moebius is really a wretchy pawn, but he's still an awesome evil character, and a worthy opponent to Kain. i'm glad you like :D
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roach-lord Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh yes he is, he made a very good pawn.
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Zoneh Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010
Is it just me or his left eye looks a bit white-ish?
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2010   Traditional Artist
You're right, I erased back the graphite off his eyes, they look white, but I wanted to give them an evilish glow under the heavy shadows of the hood.
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LittleLadyLaiho Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Moebius!!! *hisssss!!* hahahahahaha

Awesome. :)
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010   Traditional Artist
Hahahaha thank you! :XD:
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OctodogPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Moe! :love: This is masterful. :D
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2010   Traditional Artist
Thank you so much! :)
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Mavrosh Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2010  Professional General Artist
If I had the money I would ask you to do a commission work for me (I do not even have any idea IF you do commission...) :) This is another great one for sure! :)
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KainTheVampireLord Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2010   Traditional Artist
(sorry for the late reply, I'm quite behind my messages :) )
I'm okay with commissions, made a few works for money earlier, just not adverting it on dA as I'm not a speedpainter, it takes several weeks to make a full painted work. And I'm glad you like this drawing :D
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