EDIT: BlueHedgehog1997 kindly provided me with a screenshot of my comment which he coincidentally took. It was the second one I posted. The first got hidden too.EDIT 2: Added another group of his. Do NOT follow that either. Just... read the journals there, they seem to be actually proud to be hated on...
EDIT 3: I was sold out by to and I was told that I was lying, of all things! On my own profile, and even hunting me down on other people's profiles!Warning: swearing inside. Sorry, but I'm so pissed off right now!
So, four days ago, I got invited to a group
(catch-it-all for all of the Sega properties, including Atlus). I accepted, of course. But when I tried to submit my art, 90% of it got declined for no visible reason, because I was sure that I didn't break any rules. I asked why did they decline my artworks. They hid my comment. Flabbergasted, I asked the admin,
directly why was I getting declined, and why was I invited to the group at all in the first place. His reply was that, and I quote the parts of our conversations: "If a specific piece of artwork was declined it's for a reason. Some art didn't meet our standards I'm sorry you are upset but we do have rules."
- there is not a single word about any quality standards other than it must be canon Sonic, not any of the other continuities. Invisible standards?"I invited you because I do like your art and I noticed you are a Sega fan. We don't want to make you upset or seem harsh again I do apologize and hope you stay with us." - out of all the pictures I submitted to you, you accepted 1. Oh, and added 2 yourself. I don't see you liking my art at all. Notice how he hopes that I would stay...
Okay, so I explained to him why declining for no reason and hiding comments calling you out on this is screwed up. I even offered some advice about running a group and writing guidelines. Here's what I've said: "I'm sorry, but without any clear guidelines and more efforts on admins' side, your group isn't going to thrive with just making a bunch of folders, making up some vague rules and then hoping that hiding comments would do. I've been running a group for seven years, so I know a thing or two about how to run a dA group and how to write guidelines." "Okay. But you HAVE TO make it clean. And as I said before, it would be better if you find the art that you like in my gallery yourself.
And please keep in mind that 'preferring one over the other' =\= 'quality'. Subjective Vs. Objective. Even if you personally don't like the artwork, but its' quality is up to part to your group's quality control - you HAVE TO accept it. Otherwise, your group would miss the entire point of what the groups are created for. They shouldn't exactly be your own personal sandbox where you do whatever comes to your mind - they are created to share, showcase and unite over a common interest, and you just happened to be the first in a group of people who wanted to share an idea so badly that you went out of your way to create a group. Alienating people isn't a way to run one. I can help you, if you want. I don't really actively look for art, but at least I can help you with managing it and the quality control. Maybe thinking up some more exciting stuff or whatever."
"I'll be sure to take what you said to heart it was decent advice."
"I'm glad you have experience with managing groups,to be honest me and my friend are new to this and our group is still being worked on so just give us a chance."
"It was rejected because we preferred some art over others. Sorry if we made you upset and I do hope you stay with us!" - a load of bull.
After talking, I submitted some more of my works.
They ALL got declined....And I get blocked from the group. How fucked up is that?
Sorry Camylesega, but IF you invite somebody to your no-name group BECAUSE YOU LIKE THEIR ART, then decline 90% of it, just because YOU DON'T LIKE IT, IGNORING me saying TO HAND-PICK THE ART YOU LIKE, and then after I try to submit some more, YOU BLOCK ME FROM YOUR GROUP, YOU MUST BE SCREWED UP IN THE HEAD, NO FUCKING OFFENCE. FUCK YOU AND YOUR HYPOCRISY! IT'S NO WONDER YOU GET SO MUCH HATE, AND I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED AT FIRST!
Oh, and for reference. Those were accepted:
THOSE (and more) were declined:
The rest of the art in their group isn't exactly perfect either. My art gets accepted into way better groups.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE THE GROUP NAMED SEGA-FAN-CLUB, YOU SHOULD HAVE NAMED THE GROUP ME-AND-MY-SPECIFIC-SO-CALLED-PURIST-TASTES. AND DON'T FORGET THAT HE ALSO RUNS A HATE GROUP ON COMICS SONIC, WHILE I DISLIKE THEM, I WOULDN'T EVEN THINK ON HATING THINGS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN FANBASE!
Guys, it's not often that I do this, and I do not usually condone such behaviour, but right now I do - spread this shit like wildfire. WITH NAMES. It's not just about me. People must know the truth about this group and not let it grow at all.