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Thank you, Severus - The Wall by JulesDrenages Thank you, Severus - The Wall by JulesDrenages
This piece was made for Spinner's End 8th Challenge: "Thank you, Severus".
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I lost count of all the pieces I've seen featuring a dead Severus being warmly and lovely welcomed to Heaven by Lily; beautiful scene, yeah, but somehow, it doesn't seem to suit my idea of Snape anymore. It usually happens, with inflated themes. [Just to be clear: this doesn't want to be an offense towards those pieces and their artists; just *my* usual 'artistic' (and totally personal) reaction to something that my brain perceive as 'gone mainstream'. Yeah. I'm a bit screwy.]
So, when I re-read the series, lately, I focused on his other relationships, and discovered such wonderful things I couldn't believe they had gone unnoticed before.
Remus Lupin, Minerva McGonagall and the whole staff of Hogwarts are amongst them;

My gifts for Severus are comprehension and recognition, and they will be delivered by his former colleagues.

I'll start with Lupin because this sketch came to my mind almost immediately, pretending to be drawn, so I obliged.
Despite the bitterness between those two, I will never, ever forget that:
-Never once Severus 'miscalculated' the Wolfsbane potion. And the only time we see him delivering it, he's not at all his usual sneering, horrible self. I won't say he looks 'caring' but still...
-Remus is the only one that keeps defending Snape heartily against Harry's accusations. His presumed betrayal at the end of HBP makes him totally lose control for the first time in six books, in a way that not even Dumbledore's death did.
-Nevertheless, until the very end, Lupin will always refer to Snape as 'Severus'. And that, to me, speaks volumes.
-Snape actually did try to save Remus' life almost risking his cover.

I keep thinking that, with a little more time and a little less obstacles, they could have been not 'bosom friends' (as Remus put it so nicely), but ..mh?.. 'Respected acquaintances'? So many unspoken words...

In my opinion, a newly-dead Severus might not be so eager to run into a noisy, crowded place where everyone profess their sympathy for him. I think he'd need some time to just be at peace, alone. And a newly-dead Remus could understand that, having some matters to solve himself.
It could be, perhaps, the right moment to let that wall between them finally crumble.

The blue flowers are periwinkles: in the language of flowers, they mean 'Desire to leave a good memory';
The climbing lilac ones are wisterias: they mean 'Mutual friendhsip'.

*[No slash was intended, during the creation of this piece. But I surely won't stop anyone who wants to see something more in Remus' gaze...]
*[I know Remus looks younger than 38. Let's just say that in the afterlife, he should be free to look as he pleases...]

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Crayons and some Ps.
Remus Lupin and Severus Snape will always belong to JKR.
Minerva's scene will be submitted soon, I hope...
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MaryannDarkandCie Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2012
(Me? Starting to watch all your HarryPotter-related fanarts again? Naaaah, not at all. But... since my english improved a little recently and I can now understand your comments... hum...)

I really like this one, too =) And, somehow, beside your awesome style of drawing, the fact is that you always have so much in mind when you're drawing... it's amazing to me. I find your piece of art beautiful, really, but simply pure genius, too, when I read your explanations. Like this one; I, too, am somehow tired of the whole afterlife Lily-SuddenlySympatheticJamesandSirius-Dumbledore thing. This idea is far more realistic, and simply beautiful and touching =)
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2012
There are some traits of Severus' personality I can relate to (does it come from being born on the same day? It could... you know, sons of Saturn, Capricorn and all :D), and the need of solitude, in my opinion, is one of them. There's a difference between being alone because you need to, and being lonely because you have no friends; Seveerus' life is a mix of the two things, for me: even if he was able to make friends with people his age, he surely would have needed some time for himself. So, I don't think that, after being played around as the ultimate pawn for the last years of his life, he would have been happy to suddenly be surrounded by loving people (most of whom he despised and was despised by) and thrown into a huge heavenly party. I would have gladly disappeared for a couple of millennia, and Remus Lupin seems to me the kind of man who could have understood this need.

I think that pictures should speak for themselves, most of the time. A good artist communicate their messages effectively through his art. I find it difficult and every time I complete a piece, I fear that its meaning could not be caught at all: therefore, I write.
All in all, I find it very interesting to read other people's descrption, because it's always enriching learning how a particular piece was born, how and what's the history behind it. I love anecdotes and explanations, I like to interprete other pictures in the right way and allow people to do the same with my drawings. :)
Last but not least, there's alwas the chance to start interesting discussion with other fans that have different opinions on the subjects.
...so much to gain from some poor lines! :dummy:

Thank you very much, Maryann, your appreciation is precious! :huggle:
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MaryannDarkandCie Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2012
You're born on January 9th? Arf, lucky you XD

"huge heavenly party"... I grant 10 other points to Slytherin just for that expression. Really. =)

Yup, I gotta admit that the idea of Remus is simply genius. Your vision of Severus is far more realistic than lot of other people's, and I think that the sort-of-friendship with Remus is not only possible, but also cute ^^

I can understand that need: whenever I post one of my fanfictions, I always add some author's note almost as long as the chapter ^^; I'm not quite sure if anyone read them, but I feel the need to add all those things, just to make it clear, to explain where it come from, etc, etc. It's really interesting to read, to get what's behind the art ^^

Thank you for answering, eh =)
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Eliza-Aacher Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
I quite agree. I doubt he would want to be mobbed by everyone upon arrival...
Anyway, nice piece.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2012
Thanks. :)
If I were him, I would have gone into hiding for several millennia...
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eltitere Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist
After reading your artist comment, I completely agree!
What a nice piece ;_;
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
:XD: Thanks!
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Nami15 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:XD: I like what you had as a thought with this image. ^o^ However, I'm under then impression that (after reading those long conversations in the comments) Snape very well may have brewed that potion just to make Remus uneasy. After all, who wouldn't be a little frightened of a guy that their friends picked on? And now, Remus is at his mercy. This must make Severus very smug, so even if he could have refused, he probably got a small amount (or large) of evil glee brewing the potion and having the idea of it being (poisoned or something) play with Remus's mind. :XD:

And Remus' act of calling Snape "Severus" could, in fact, be taken as a rude thing. Sort've... like he is telling Snape he doesn't have the proper respect to us his last name. :XD: But, that's just a thought.

But I do like the idea that they could become friends. I think they would have gotten along very well, I also think Sirius and Snape would have become friends, had it not been for James. Sirius came from a similar background as Snape. James, it seems to me, was the infection that festered in the wounds of Remus, Sirius and Peter. Possibly what polluted them from being friends with Severus (as far as I'm concerned, it could have been Sirius and Severus picking on James instead of the other way around.) Even though Sirius doesn't like Slytherin because of his family, I think, had he become one, Snape and him would have been friends. *shrugs* Maybe not? Who can say.

I like this picture though! Well done~ :3
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Thanks :)
I think that, when Wolfsbane was concerned, their relationship was as much 'professional' as it could be. Yes, I said that their mutual history gave the whole thing some very interesting nuances (you pointed some of them out yourself: Lupin's health depending on Snape; the necessity, for the latter, to face one of his monsters once a month, being the only one able to exorcise everyone's fear; and so on...) that enrich the simple gesture of handing a goblet. Still, despite his pettiness and vindictiveness, Snape would have never endangered the castle with a savage werewolf. That brings every other (interesting and valuable) interpretation one step behind, to me.
For the very same reason, I think he wouldn't have trusted anyone else with the task of 'taming the wolf'.

I don't really think Sirius and Snape could have been friends... well, not at school, at least. Because of his background, teen!Sirius fights against darkness and is keen to rebellion, despites sneaky people in favour of impetuous, loyal ones. He's a good friend who looks for faithful companions, and the inherited haughtiness of Blacks makes him capable of hold grudges and keep loathing what, in his opinion, is not 'light'. He says that James 'always hated the Dark Arts', but he himself did, with all his heart, in his school years.
There are too many differences, in my opinion, between the Marauders and Snape in their teens. Of course there are similarities (they *are* schoolmates of the same age), but they don't look to me as people who could have got along easily (Severus and Lily's friendship actually breaks because they can't overcome their differences)...
As adults, on the other hand, they could have found some kind of understandment; *friends* is a very strong word, but after having faced war, betrayal, injustice, despair, loneliness, grief (and you can aplly those words to every one of them: Sirius, Snape, Lupin) they *could* have come a little closer.
If they could actually act like grown men instead of playing their childish games... :facepalm:
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Nami15 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
You make a good point. ^^

Yeah, I thought about that and realized, he probably wouldn't have liked Snape anyway. James just seems to be the instigator. :/
That's an interesting thought. I only say that because, well, I'm friends with people, that other people could never comprehend why I am friends with them. Then again, Sirius, James, Snape and Lupin aren't like me. So I can understand how they wouldn't get along.
I agree, they do act like children. Unfortunately, the bitterness of losing Lily to James and nearly his life to Sirius's enjoyment has left a bitter taste in Snape's mouth, so he holds a grudge. If no one ever taught him how to let go of those emotions, then it would be very hard to do so. Ah well, I like the idea that Lupin could have been friends with Snape. ^o^ What a nice image that is.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011
You know, I can't really hold a bad opinion of James; I do like him as a character... ^^;

Well, from the sound of it, yours may be the case of a Lily-Snape kind of friendship, but one that actually worked out and survived! :)
To me, one thing is mantaining an old relationship in front of new people who don't understand it and one thing is making friends with someone I have apparently nothing in common with; you need some lucky circumstance that makes you realize your presumed nemesis is very alike you, otherwise, there's no chance you'll willingly go to him/her offering friendship...

Both Sirius and Snape never really grew up: one because of Azkaban, the other for his own, messed up personality. We wouldn't like them this much, if they were reasonable, balanced adults. :shrug: (And yes, I do love Sirius too! :D)

Glad you liked the piece :hug:
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Nami15 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:XD: I don't hold it against you. James I guess wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have an immediate dislike for guys such as him. :3
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AzhiDahaki Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This is amazing. :heart: I was going to enter...but I don't think I can beat your gift.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Noooooo, don't say such things!!! :huggle:
a) My drawing and I don't deserve them :blushes:;
b) Now I'm very curious about what your gift would be and crave to see it :la::la::la:(oh, and Severus does, as well!);
c) One of the amazing things about these challenges is that there's no real competition between the entries, so that in the end there's not a proclaimed winner but only a great tribute to something (someone) we love! No bitterness or disappointment, just the fun to create something for a reason that motivates us, the satisfaction to see it submitted and considered as part of the group and the great feeling of sharing it with people who can understand your motivations! :w00t:

...now, don't you want to enter again??? I would. U_U

By the way, thank you very much, I'm glad you liked this piece so much. :)
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AzhiDahaki Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I still feel like my gift would seem so disingenuous compared to yours, but you're right, it's about making a tribute and showing our appreciation. :heart:
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
That's the spirit! :hooray:
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SkylerFarrier Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
^^;
"-Snape actually did try to save Remus' life almost risking his cover."
Uh...I fail as a fan, but where was this?
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
It's one of the memories we're shown in the Pensieve during The Prince's Tale. I've typed out the passage on my answer to =Itti's comment; there, and in response to *Blitz-bat's comment, I also explained my point of view on the matter...
(sorry to re-direct you, but I don't believe I can find other words to express that thing again...^^;)
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SkylerFarrier Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
No, that's okay. I see the comments.

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I have tears of happiness and sad regret for Severus Snape.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
'guess we all have... :)
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SkylerFarrier Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
:stare: I rarely cry and I was bawling my eyes out during Severus' memories in the pensieve.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
Ahahhaah! Well, *that* surely happened to almost every Snape-fan, at one point or another. I, for example, almost ignored it at the first reading, as I was focused on the 'main' story, but after some days from the end of the book I kept thinking of the Prince's Tale and actually started weeping because of the melancholy of the TITLE. :facepalm:
Then, once you've started... :shrugs:
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medricht Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011
Hmm, you make some excellent points!

Poor Snape and Lupin...
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Well, Fate sticked its hands between them, but in the very end, all the bitterness and misunderstandings they didn't solve are their own fault, you know... :no:
But there's great potential in all the 'What if...' scenarios involving the two of them... (I admit it's my soft spot.. :blushes:)
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medricht Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
I like "what if" scenarios too. The mind can explore so many paths...
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Itti Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
-Snape actually did try to save Remus' life almost risking his cover.
I don't suppose you have time to type out the relevant passage? I don't have the books here - they're at my parents' house. And my memory of that bit is a bit shaky. I'd love to be able to read it.

I like the idea of the both of them not wanting to rush into the crowded place. And you're right - Lupin does stick up for Snape a lot, and you raise a good point about the "Severus" thing. I like the way you've drawn them both young and innocent again - it's like all the bitterness has been swept away in the same way that the passing of the years has.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Thank you..
I was referring to this:
"Now Harry was flying alongside Snape on a broomstick through a clear dark night: he was accompanied by other hooded Death Eaters, and ahead were Lupin and a Harry who was really George ... a Death Eater moved ahead of Snape and raised his wand, pointing it directly at Lupin's back - 'Sectumsempra!' shouted Snape. But the spell, intended for the Death Eater's wand hand, missed and hit George instead -"
As I pointed out answering to another comment (it's somewhere around here...), he was likely trying to protect the boy who could have been the real Harry; still, there's a certain emphasis on the fact that his hex is a sudden reaction to an immediate threat to *Lupin*'s life...

I like the 'Severus'-thing most. That simple use of his first name speaks lots more than anything else about the two of them, in my opinion, at least from Lupin's part. He calls Snape by his surname only in front of Sirius and the elder Order members. When he runs away from Tonks and steps in Grimmauld Place, even knowing Snape's a murderer, he asks for Severus...
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Itti Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
yes, I hadn't thought about the "Severus" thing before, but I really like it too. It's made some of the bits I was unsure about in a piece I was working on a lot clearer!
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
Now I want to see it. :eager:
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sugarfr0st Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm not sure whether I like the drawing or the idea behind it more. It's certainly food for thought. Well done.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Thanks.. :)
It's really nice to see that even after several years from the end of the story, there are still people ready to discuss the whole saga and its details. :la:
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sugarfr0st Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm worried it's bordering on obsession, but whenever someone comes up with something new to me, like this was...I spiral right back down to reading them all over again with a fresh perspective.

The details make it! I shall eagerly await your look on other characters.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011
In my opinion, as long as you don't forget about the real world you live in, there's nothing wrong in cultivate a passion; in this case, it means spending lots of time at a desk trying to put on paper (or on screen) ideas and concepts you want to share with others and then discuss them.
Being a thorough reader and fan of the saga obviously lead you to look for new perspectives and insights: again, as long as taken in proper doses, what's wrong about something that helps you relax, makes you happy and opens your mind?
It's not so different from being the kind of soccer fan that knows everything about the championship and the history of the team he supports (and the others), the one who follows all the matches with passion and finds solace in following the game... :)
Different passions for different people.
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sugarfr0st Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well yeah, I know it's just a hobby, not a life changing thing...
I do love your concept though, it's just something that hasn't occured to me at all.
It's strange to read them again, since you pick up on different themes throughout the books.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2011
Thanks :hug:
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Blitz-bat Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Just a question, because I really do not remember: When do Snape try to save Remus' life, almost risking his cover? :)
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
We see it in the Prince's Tale: when he cut George's hear away, it was by mistake; he was actually firing a Sectumsempra towards the Death Eater who was aiming at Remus' back, but missed and hit the boy.
He could have been protecting the life of the one he knew could be Harry, nevertheless, the sentence is made up so that we're told he's preventing Lupin from being killed; and deliberately throwing a nasty hex to one of your allies during a mission *is* risky...
:)
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Itti Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, then! I thought you meant at the end of book six, in the fray then.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2011
Actually, I don't remember a particular time in book six in which is clearly said such a thing... I recall Lupin saying that he tried to follow Snape up the stairs of the Tower but got blocked by some kind of enchantment that allowed owners of Dark Marks to pass, but nothing else...
Must go checking... :sprint:
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Blitz-bat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Oh yearh, I remember that! I just thought he was trying to saw Harry, believing that Remus was actually Harry. But okay. :)
Many thanks for the explanation.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011
It's a matter of interpretation, and I'm sure he didn't know if the boy on the broom was trhe real Harry, so it's very likely he was going to protect the brat as usual. But it's nice to read a sentence that points out how he instantly throws a hex to the Death Eater who was pointing his wand at *Lupin*'s back... :D
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the-anonymous-c Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
I totally agree with your thoughts on them. I always felt like Remus could sort of relate to Severus in a way that the other characters couldn't. Their relationship/potential relationship in the books is always really interesting to me.
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
To me, there's too much history they share and simply can't ignore, as much as they want to, for one reason or another.
Something like that...
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joeyv7 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011
Thoughtfully done - I like the design and bright colors :heart:
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011
Thank you;
wherever he goes, Severus will always be, to me, a jet black patch; maybe that's why I really love submerging him in bright colours: makes the contrast sharper and magnifies both the black and the other colours... :love:
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joeyv7 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
It's smart you didn't reveal his expression. He may actually looked pleased, and to have anyone see would make him :furious: :aww:
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
Or he may look annoyed, and it will be just a few moments until Lupin's hopes are crashed... (I'm evil. ._.)
Or he may have just dozed off... :D
...I like your version better, though. :aww:
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joeyv7 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
I'm a 'cup half full' type :slow:
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JulesDrenages Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Usually, I'm a 'Ehi! Where's my cup gone?!' type... :XD:
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Gryffgirl Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011
I love this drawing for so many reasons. First, the colors. They are quite beautiful. It is so tempting to draw Snape in black and white and there has been a lot of striking art in that medium, but he does deserve some color, even if it is in the after life. Secondly, I love the symbolism of the flowers and the partially broken down wall. Thirdly, I love how you've drawn Severus and Remus. Sev has his back to Remus, but he is still gripping the flowers. Remus, ever patient, is not pushing him. He knows when thanks is accepted. I love his kind face and ragged clothes. He is my second favorite Marauder. He was kind to Severus as an adult and admitted to Harry that he was wrong not to stand up to his friends when they bullied Sev.

So many emotions here--thanks, patience, forgiveness. Beautiful work! :heart:
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