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Pixelbit0's avatar

protect all kids

Villainous-Muse's avatar

Children who identify as the gender they were born as and express hetero-normative behaviour don't need protecting. They're already being protected by their parents. We need to protect the children who are openly different because their parents' protection might not be enough. Or in other cases, where their parents have abandoned them because no son/daughter of their's is gonna be a filthy queer.

M0therSuperi0r's avatar

to young to drink/vote/live alone/no education/no maturity or puberty , but old enough to have his dick cut off or have one stapled , how about instead of protecting trans kids you just protect the kids

Villainous-Muse's avatar

Children who identify as the gender they were born as and express hetero-normative behaviour don't need protecting. They're already being protected by their parents. We need to protect the children who are openly different because their parents' protection might not be enough. Or in other cases, where their parents have abandoned them because no son/daughter of their's is gonna be a filthy queer.

M0therSuperi0r's avatar

thats a different topic, and we can at least agree on that , nobody should be abandoned bcs of that

Villainous-Muse's avatar

No it really is the same topic. As much as "All Lives Matter" against BLM, saying "Protect kids" is distracting from the fact that protecting children isn't what is in contention here. It's bogging down the conversation with semantics to deadlock any actual progress being made, a common tactic used by far right supporters and politicians in conversation.


White people don't need affirmation that their lives matter because they aren't being murdered by police in droves. Hetero-cis kids don't need extra protection because they SHOULD be being protected ALREADY. The default setting for white, hetero-cis people is: safe and secure.


Their value as human beings isn't a subject of contention, people who are not white, hetero-cis however is a different story. Black people, trans-people, gay people, queer people, poly people. Notice how I'm saying "people" and not children? Because children ARE people.


What we are experiencing right now in culture is a massive paradigm shift. Wealthy, straight white males have been holding all the wealth and influence in society when they represent a fraction of it's population and the people whom they are treading on are NOT happy with it. I mean, I don't think they were ever happy with it but it's becoming more acceptable to be "out" than it was even 20 years ago and the people whom these wealthy white hetero people define as "minorities" as a means of devaluing their input, are actually the majority when they band together.


Powerful, wealthy white conservative people don't want queers, gays, transgenders, bi, poly people and even hetero people with an epidermal hue darker than snow to band together. The reason? We all outnumber them.

No such thing as trans kids. Only sadistic parents who've lost their minds and can't tell what is up or down anymore.

Villainous-Muse's avatar

I'm sorry, no such thing as "trans-kids"? Excuse me? I suppose you've never met one yourself or don't have any trans friends that have elaborated the experience of being a transgender human being, therefore: you have no idea what you're talking about so do please shut up.

I've got science backing me up. The only think you have is emotional driven feel good even tho its wrong mentality. Fact, kids that exhibit such behavior usually grow out of it by their teenage years. Fact two. Suicides are extremely common in the transgender community. Fact three. When a deranged parent puts their kids on drugs designed to sterilize dogs. It causes their body's to grow improperly.


Fact four, it won't matter how much the woman or man mutilate themselves they will never be able to change their gender. XX female XY male. This is in our DNA, it can't be changed. Fact five. Tranis can't breed, even that bs exception was not an exception because it was still a male and female albeit hideous ones that still copulated.


Fact six, I worked with a gay man , he was my boss and he was a very nice guy but neither I nor he forced each others beliefs down each others throats.


If you want to mutilate yourself as an adult, go ahead but try to spread that vile crap and say your a different group of people that demands privileges and whatnot. That makes you a threat and anyone who supports said insanity doesn't deserve to have kids.


Finally have I met them no, seen them, yes. Would it stop me from calling them sir or maam based on their actual gender, heck no and if it pisses them off all the better.


Thank you and have a nice day.

Villainous-Muse's avatar

Okay I don't know where you're getting these "facts" from but they're patently false. They're opinions or information lacking crucial context, so I shall elucidate in order.


"fact" 1: Children have phases but there are children who know they are misgendered at birth when they're very young. Many transgender people that I have met have said they knew since they were little children that something was wrong.


"fact" 2: I don't know what this has to do with trans-kids. The suicide rate in this community is high because they're constantly rejected by people around them, lose friends, family, jobs, homes and have no support structure to help them when they are down. When everything and everyone in your life seems against you, yes, suicide often seems like a much better alternative.


"fact" 3: That has nothing to do with a trans-child if the child does not consent to said drugs. If they're consenting then their parents are supporting them and it's none of your business, so shut your face from spewing your opinions because it has no effect on you. You stupid asshole.


fact 4: You are actually correct, gender is a genetic and binary thing biologically. This is why I didn't put quotations on this. From a medical perspective, gender assignment is important but not nearly as crucial for interacting socially as you like to think it is.


"fact" 5: I don't know where you got that impression. Some trans people keep their assigned-at-birth genitals but live their lives as a woman or man as they prefer. These human beings are fully capable of reproducing. There are others that decide to have surgery to replace their genitals so they may enjoy their sex lives as they feel they should be able to. Either way they're wearing pants and it's none of your business, you ignorant asshole.


Point 6: Your boss sounds like a reasonable homosexual, people who define their identities as their genders are people who feel powerless and poorly treated. Being loud and proud is how they retake some of that control in their lives, being aggressive is how they get people like you to back off of what's going on in their homes and in their lives because it's none of your business. Again I didn't quote this one because it sounds more like personal experience than any kind of scientific or statistics backed fact. Hence why I call it "point" 6, because it is a point and opinion based on experience.


You haven't met any, never really heard their experience in life so quite frankly: Shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about, the sewer rot you're spewing that you claim to be "facts" is nothing more than conjecture based off of little to no experience in your own life, ignorance based on what other ignorant people have taught you and I doubt I'm going to change your mind because my opinion of you probably doesn't mean much to you.


As for your patronizing wishing me to have a good day, well thank you. I'll take that at face value, I will have a wonderful day. In contrast: I hope your next blowjob is toothy as fuck, dude because quite frankly you're lame and I don't like anything about you.

CrauzCarffe's avatar

Mb the crazy parents of these kids will protect them. Someone cut off the penis of his/her son and shifts the responsibility for his health to society, great

theMuesLee's avatar

You sound incredibly educated about the topic you talk about.

And not at all like an insane dumbfuck.

CrauzCarffe's avatar

the classic answer from SJW community "Im right. you are not dumbfuck"

Villainous-Muse's avatar

Despite the fact that "Social Justice" ( ie: equal treatment in society for all ) has been co-opted as a derogatory by conservative close minded shitbirds who dismiss anyone calling them out for their archaic bullshit; the fact is most people who are accepting of others' differences know that arguing with people like you is a waste of their time.


Unfortunately they do tend to drop passive aggressive commentary like the above instead of just ignoring it, further adding fuel to the fire. So allow me to elucidate.


Parents of queer children ( Gay/Lesbian/etc ) but Transgender kids especially sometimes have a difficult time accepting their children for who they are. Quite often the question among more conservative parents is "Where did we go wrong" as if the child in question is a criminal. Some parents work past their phobias and love their children regardless, others ostracize or even abandon them because "No son/daughter of mine is going to be a filthy queer".


So boiling down a transgender person's experience to "chopping their dick off/stapling one on" is incredibly narrow minded. Some trans people are happy with their genitalia and live their lives as the gender their mind is telling them they are, some go through with the operation and there are numerous steps to make sure that this is indeed what they want because there is no going back. What it really boils down to however is: They're wearing pants in public, so it's none of your goddamn business what their genitals are.


If you've actually read this far: congratulations. Put the word pineapple somewhere in your next reply, if not then I'll know you didn't bother reading it and won't waste any more of my time on this discussion.


So as I've said in other replies to other people with the same derivative and narrow minded commentary as your's: Children who identify as the gender they were born as and express hetero-normative behaviour don't need protecting. They're already being protected by their parents. We need to protect the children who are openly different because their parents' protection might not be enough. Or in other cases, where their parents have abandoned them because no son/daughter of their's is gonna be a filthy queer.


As far as the healthcare cost goes... yes, that's what healthcare is. You are paying for their needs to be a healthy, happy human being as much as they are paying for you to receive care for having a heart attack, asthma, cancer treatment or whatever health needs you or anyone else may or may not have. You don't get to gerrymander what healthcare covers or should cover, it's either all covered or none of it is. Every human being's health needs are different and evolving as they age based on a complex bouquet of their genetics, lifestyle choices and location of living.


So unless you can resuscitate yourself after you've choked on a bit of hotdog or passed out from heart failure, can afford the surgery to replace any one of many organs of your's that might fail or any other life saving ( but expensive ) surgical processes so you can live your happiest life; the queer community deserves the same privilege. To live their happiest life. You owe it to them for being a human being, just as we in the queer community owe it to you in spite of your narrow minded and irrational phobia of us.


If you got this far, then hey why not add pizza to your reply as well. So the attitude that "We are right, you are wrong" stems from the fact that we accept you for who you were born as ( a hetero-normative cis-gender individual ) and don't seek to convert you to being queer. We respect your right to choose and right to be. There aren't any "pray away the straight" camps, we don't have queer couples throwing their kids out on the street for being heterosexual. What we don't accept is your unbridled phobia and intolerance of us because we expect to be treated fairly in society ( Social Justice :3 ) because it's nobody's damn business what we get up to in our bedrooms. Conservative people seem to be of the mindset: Well they're having fun but they're not having fun the way I like to have fun therefore it's wrong.


Which is just not true. Objectively, no argument. There is nothing wrong with what people get up to in their bedroom as long as nobody is being hurt because it's their bedroom in their home. So unless you're involved in that home and bedroom's activities: it's none of your damn business what happens there.


So... we are right because we are accepting of your preferences for your life and your home and your bedroom, what you do in those settings are your business and your business alone. You are wrong because you seem to think what happens in our homes, our bedrooms and our lives have anything to do with you; which is patently and objectively false. There is no arguing that and to do so makes you look like a creepy, archaically-minded insane dumbfuck.

theMuesLee's avatar

Lol what?

I was making fun of his clearly uneducated stance on the topic.

This has nothing to do with right or wrong.

But by that statement, i can be sure, that every argument they could bring into this is fallacious or out right wrong.

CrauzCarffe's avatar

I thought your comment was sarcastic

theMuesLee's avatar

I think you read my last comment wrong.

But i will leave you at that.

juarezricci's avatar

he'll probably thank you for the compliment

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