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Batman Vs Superman

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Sorry for the lame title.. any suggestions?

Practicing expression and just overall digital painting. Some steps are on my facebook page here: [link]

Excited about the movies, but went for a classic look on these classic heroes. Hope you like!

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Macgyver644200's avatar
"Bruce... any time now!"

"One minute, Clark!  I'm not taking chances with these Kryptonian lice."

"I'm gonna' pass out!"
Nealecoh's avatar
renz5070's avatar
I hate all the hatred the world has against Zack's vertion of Superman. And I hate all the overratetd stupid love for Batman.
Clark / Kal is not perfect. Henry's vertion of Superman is more human than any other Superman in the world - and Ironically enough hated by people for being too human. The world loves Batman on an almost grotesque way - not because he is human - but because we see ourselves as more powerful than the gods, magic and everything else and we do not want to believe that something good could come from another race.

And ironically, Batman is in fact not very human. = He was born as an incredibly rich man who does not focus on much more than his own revenge and feeling of superiority over all others. (Do not not get me wrong, Batman is a great hero, but he is also too overrated and unrealistic.) What is the only real difference between Batman and Superman?
Batman is a internassionalt rich man who considers himself always better than all accredited in the world. :batman: He was born as a millionaire heiress - who aspires to become a god and see himself as a god.
Superman's only capacity not inhuman is his humility and mutual respect for all other species around them. :superman: He was born as a god - only struggling to become more human. Which is a very important lesson.

In our real world, we hate Superman, because he had just come from another world. And we also fear Superman, because the universe is so big. So the possibility that there may well exist a people who are us humans utterly superior, is actually very realistic.

Yet Superman is not a tyrant who looks down on us humans.
In the legend of King Arthus, there is a scene where the sorcerer Merlin visiting The Lady Of the Lake and says he is unhappy for the mistakes he committed in his life. And she answer: "It is human to make mistakes Merlin, and a part of you is human. The best part." I think the comparison, better than any other, tells of Superman's real value. As a god, who is also a human being.
PeteTheGrouch's avatar
I see your name cropping up a lot... you really seem to have quite the man-boner for ol' Blue Boy, dont'cha..? Smoking 
renz5070's avatar
Not quite, but it's okay you ask.

Batman is a fantastic and very important hero. Not only in Dc or in Comics, but throughout the world.

I just think it's too bad that Superman is very misunderstood and ridiculed in many stories.

Perhaps it is because we humans are naturally more attracted to conflict than of harmony.

But glad you ask. Good weekend to you.:) (Smile) 
PeteTheGrouch's avatar
Hm? Well, that was...refreshingly civil. Confused

Forgive me if my original comment was somewhat.. confrontational in tone - I'm simply weary of rabid fanboys going on & ON about Big Blue like he was the best thing since sliced bread... Unimpressed

Yeah, I get that Supes is effectively the "Grandaddy" of modern superheroes; &, thus, deserves a certain level of reverence... however, personally, I'm getting a little sick of the fact that you can't ever seem to have a friendly VS debate these days without someone trying to shoehorn the Man of Steel into the equation!
Well, either him OR Goku...(Or goddamn Saitama Facepalm )

Don't get me wrong - Supes isn't necessary a bad character per se... I just find that, usually, it's VERY difficult for writers to ever get him... well, "right". hmm 

Still, each to their own. Shrug

Good day to you sir.
renz5070's avatar
It's alright. There is nothing to forgive. I'm not angry friend :) 

In addition, you were in a way right. Yes you were. Handshake 

Believe me, I'm a giant Superman fan, but I'm tired of how other fans raise him up to be the best in the world, while they mock all other heroes and crooks in both Marvel and DC. Grr. 

Superman is awesome because he is often the reason why it's possible to save the world. But he is not perfect.

Today we see a hero like the one who always wins, gets the girl and is popular. But in ancient mythology is a hero, a person who has to suffer, so that others can live.
It's important to remember that Superman owes nothing to humanity, which often adulteres and hates him.
He is very hard to make a good story around, but what makes him my favorite hero is that he more than anyone else has the power to do everything he wants. Superman could easily be a monster like Darkseid, but instead he only wants to be a human being.
And it is important to remember that although in almost every way he is as strong as a god, he is also hated and excluded from all other gods in DC because they see him as a freak with the same powers as theirs.:( (Sad) 

So you're right. Superman is the grandfather of modern heroes in comics. He is already on his way back to save Wonder Woman, Batman and the whole world from the invasion of the Apocalypse, in zack cheating upcoming movies, where I think Superman is the only one who can turn the war to victory.

BUT the Superman must exist in a world with many other heroes side by side. Not over them as the best in the world.CURSE YOU! 
Stop IT! Rage 

Perhaps the problem with Supermna is not as much Superman as our people. Because I actually think we all like him. But we all want our own vertion of him, so we are never satisfied with any version of him. Oops! 

That's why I love zack cheats, version of the superman. In Man of Steel and B v S, Superman is not perfect. He makes mistakes, falls, cries, doubts about himself, is uncertain, needs help and has many times need to talk with others about his problems.:| (Blank Stare) 

So you're absolutely right. Superman is not perfect. He must not be perfect and he must be surrounded by many other heroes and humans :)

Good weekend for you and thank you for asking. Hug :) Huggle! 
renz5070's avatar
What is the only real difference between Batman and Superman? 

Batman is a internassionalt rich man who considers himself always better than all accredited in the world. Batman 
He was born as a millionaire heiress - who aspires to become a god.

Superman's only capacity not inhuman is his humility and mutual respect for all other species around them. Superman 
He was born as a god - only struggling to become more human.

Which is a very important lesson.

Therefore, I prefer him. Hug 
Dark-Carioca's avatar
And as always Batman wins by cheating. Well, from the 9 times they've met, only 2 times has Batman succeeded on taking him down, and even when Superman was suppressing nearly all his power in order to not harm his best friend of planet Earth. Seriously, every time these two fight, it's just about Batman being a dick to Superman, who is just a nice guy to everyone.
therealmetalman's avatar
Ok 2 things on those comments.

Number 1 By cheating?

OK let me put it this way

Super powered alien who basically is a god Vs A Human 

that's your idea of a fair fight?

And Number 2 Batman being a dick?

well as king-krown said batman is a dick to everyone don't think superman is any more special.

Not too mention that most times they have fought Superman is under some form of mind control and batman just seeks to free him from it.

And yes Superman Is very very susceptible to mind control even though he's supposed to be trained to resist it.
Dark-Carioca's avatar
Magic is one of his many weaknesses, and fairly enough magic is nearly everyone's weakness. I don't see how that makes him more of a dick than Batman. Just because he's slightly more naive and kind?
therealmetalman's avatar
Batman Doesn't have the advantages of superman's power to have such a laid back attitude not to mention the constant trauma that he has permanently scared into his brain with the death of his parents shot right in front of him as a child.

Batman Grew up with alot of hate and vengeance in his heart over those events But in time has learned to control them and overcome them for the greater good.

Not to mention batman takes a lot of things he's done in his fight against crime and its consequences as a personal failure on his part and takes it pretty damn heavily.

Examples such as jokers condition being somewhat his fault, Bat woman's/oracle's leg condition, Jason todds death, Harvey dent becoming two face (All so far steming from the creation of the joker lol) and these are just some things he carries on his shoulders as if it was fully his fault

And believe it or not but batman is actually not as bad a guy as other believe him to be and he does consider alot of the JLA his friend.
Dark-Carioca's avatar
Yeah... All of those things, Superman went through them as well. But at least Superman can ignore and forget them. Batman is already wearing a costume that says "I'm tragic, cry at me".
therealmetalman's avatar
Superman Didn't watch his parents die he discovered that at an older age along with all his powers.

Sure his situation is also tragic but at least he had a childhood and a family with the Clark's taking care of him threw the years and he even considers them his parents after the discovery.

Not to mention he hasn't had any time to even get remotely attached to his real parents who died on krypton.

Batman Literately saw his parents murdered before him at a very young age which would leave a huge Mental scar on anyone.

He had no one other than Alfred his butler who sort of became his father in a sense.

Not to mention batman saw the Killer of his parent (Joe Chill) and even found him when he became the batman and confronted him.

Now let that set in a moment He Knew his parents killer, Now that instantly would put to things into you a lot of hate and rage.

Bruce grew up with this kind of hate and anger and vengeance in his heart swearing that one day he would avenge them.

And after all the training he went through and goals he set then finally on to the streets and bringing justice down on the criminals of gotham.

He went through a lot of moral dilemmas with his one rule of Don't kill anyone as it would make him no better than the criminals he is bringing to justice.

Now we get to the part of Joe Chill The man who killed his parents and batman meeting him.

And when he did find him across several different versions he is on the verge of killing Joe chill but spares him dues to the belief it would make him no better and memory of his father's morals in Bruce's mind.

Batman is not all I'm tragic cry for me No that is not the whole point of it.

The point that Batman represents is that struggle of fighting evil without falling into evil yourself and Batman walks that thin line but remains true to his cause and it has its consequences and it can be seen throughout
Batman's life and stories.

He brings justice from the Darkness whilst being uncorrupted by it.



Superman on the other hand killed the man who killed his father (General Zod) and as he stands on a high point of goody good it is easier for him to fall to dark ways from time to time as seen in the comics, movies and T.V. shows he's been in.
King-Krown's avatar
Clark's/Kal-El's father left behind that A.I construct which is present is also in comics,Being an A.I,It's can only do/tell him so much, that's a constant reminder of who he lost, but Superman doesn't brood over it. 


"Superman on the other hand killed the man who killed his father (General Zod) and as he stands on a high point of goody good it is easier for him to fall to dark ways from time to time as seen in the comics, movies and T.V. shows he's been in."

This is silly,You're going off movies, Superman Killed Zod and Batman killed Dent. More importantly, They BOTH did it to save a family. They didn't do it out of vengeance.  

Also,When has Superman fallen into "dark ways"? Dark Knight & Injustice are not canon by the way. 


On top of that,I have no Idea why people think "killing" makes you just as bad. 
If you kill Joker, the man who's killed and tortured countless people, A man who makes it so genuinely GOOD people can't walk this earth, how can am I/you/Batman just as bad for killing him? It doesn't. 

"
The point that Batman represents is that struggle of fighting evil without falling into evil yourself" 
...No, That is literally the same thing any hero who does not kill goes through. Batman is not special with this. 

The Avengers kills,Some X-men kill and they are still good guys. ESPECIALLY Cap who the DC equivalent to Superman in terms of Morality & Character. 
therealmetalman's avatar
I'm sure superman did kill zod in the comics at some point or was that old cannon? Either way I was not actually referring to the movies  but they are under DC official seal So its a version of him I guess lol.

Yeah I may have not said it right but the point is that anyone can kill. Its harder to not

Not the fact that killing is exactly a bad thing but its certainly not the best option and the point of batman is he doesn't do it as he believes you can fight it without resorting to it and it is a cowardly way to fight and sets a poor example as it takes it from being about justice and more about revenge.

Am not saying batman hasn't killed but he certainly acts more heavily against it.

As for the likes of Cap well you need to remember that cap is a soldier and will resort to that kind of training first along with the fact he is no where near as strong as supes.

Killing doesn't make you a bad guy but then again it depends on the circumstances I guess.

We can batter this thing back and forth but in the end it doesn't really matter what we think its what the characters think.

Batman thinks killing is bad then ok I guess that's his code doesn't mean hes not gonna fuck you up.

Oh and when I said that superman killed zod I was using it more as an example of who hold more restraint under that level of anger. 

But in the end I don't really care too much the characters are all awesome and I love them all
King-Krown's avatar
Batman is a dick to everyone =/. 
renz5070's avatar
What is the only real difference between Batman and Superman? 

Batman is a internassionalt rich man who considers himself always better than all accredited in the world. Batman 
He was born as a millionaire heiress - who aspires to become a god.

Superman's only capacity not inhuman is his humility and mutual respect for all other species around them. Superman 
He was born as a god - only struggling to become more human.

Which is a very important lesson.

Therefore, I prefer him. Hug 
Dark-Carioca's avatar
No wonder he chose Dick Grayson as his first companion.
jpzilla's avatar
it really shows the polarizing personalities for sure!
BlazePerson's avatar
Down with Superman!
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