I've decided to remove the description as it seems to be triggering a bad reaction!
Hi I'm Josh and I'd like to see an all-female Lord of the Rings if amazon MUST remake it.
Hi I'm Josh and I'd like to see an all-female Lord of the Rings if amazon MUST remake it.
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Plus in your attempt to be diverse you pretty much drew all of them as stereotypes...Plus the incorrect and insidious insinuation that we're all mixed and outside of icky white countries we all live together, like some melting pot utopia? Been some time since I've seen Polynesians living in Latin America but go off I guess. Woke spoiled first worlders know all about other cultures more than dumb brown third worlders who need to be taught to go in the correct path!
I'm absolutely not trying to tell other people what to like or not to like - and I'm certainly not assuming you can't enjoy Lord of the Rings just because you're not from Britain (if that were the case it would never have been as popular or widely read as it is!)
What I AM saying is I'd like there to be an effort to diversify Lord of the Rings (and indeed, fantasy in general) because representation of non-white cultures is currently so limited and often stereotype-based in mainstream media - at least it is here in England.
You may already be aware that there are some great fantasy stories out there based in non-European-based cultures (written by authors of colour) such as CHILDREN OF BLOOD AND BONE by Tomi Adeyemi, the EMBER IN THE ASHES series by Sabaa Tahir or anything by N.K. Jemisin...
I would absolutely love it if amazon were making a TV show with one of these authors but ALAS once again we are being given a remake of the Lord of the Rings once again. My suggestion here is only that they think about diversifying the cultures it features if they're insisting on remaking it once again.
That DOESN'T mean I want them to be as randomly culturally diverse as the characters I've designed - the designs are only to suggest POSSIBILITIES - AVENUES they could go down were they to choose this option.
The races in Lord of the Rings DO hail from different parts of middle-earth, so I think it would make sense for the different races to not necessarily be white! I'd love to see an elven culture that's based (with the proper research, of course, preferably BY people of colour themselves) on an African country or an order of wizards that hail from Japan. I think it would be great if the dwarven culture was based in the mountains of India and the race of men be Polynesian instead.
Lord of the Rings is, I think, a story about humanity - all I'm saying is that I'd like to see MORE examples of humanity - not just white people...
Hope you're having a good week.
Come on, my bf is darker than me, he's a Tolkienologist much bigger than me, and even he thinks you're reaching with the race stuff. Even Tolkien admitted the Hobbits are based on countryside English culture of his time, changing them to not represent that is just odd (besides, the hobbits are supposed to be a small culture that lives in proximity, hence why they'd be similar between one another in terms of attitudes. How the heck can an Indian and a Mexican hobbit come from the same culture or living in the same land? It's just mind boggling)
Also Gandalf the old mentor as being japanese- because the old Asian mentor isn't a stereotype, lol.
Plus your human woman is lazy since it just seems you trace her double from Moana instead of an accurate design.
Yeah, and those diverse fantasy stories already exist. I'm writing one as well, (but it has sympathetic white people in it as well, so you might be triggered about it), we could ask Amazon or other companies to start focusing on them instead of rehashing old stuff and randomly changing it, but it's the nature of audiences and media. People are afraid of new stuff so they prefer watching what's already familiar, And even then I feel that has changed in later years. Black Panther was an afro futuristic fantasy based on an original property which was a good movie and made a lot of money, and so were original Disney movies like Coco and Moana. The audience is there, and I think you can catch more audiences' attention with making a good story with appealing characters instead of just having this smug attitude and changing a lot of the past, which you know, maybe a lot of women and POC actually didn't have a problem with it? The Hobbit was also trashed, and that one didn't have any diversity or quotas added in. People are a lot smarter than that and recognize shit writing when they see it.
I also like how subtly you try to be nicer with me while you're much more antagonistic to the presumably white guys who have also commented on this pic. Lol.
When you say "White Fantasy", means you think that Black fantasy would change something more than the skin color of the charcter, wich would be what you called White Fantasy with black people. That is racist too. (Holly Hell, I mean you reduced each and every one of thoses charcters to a big fat juicy stereotype.)
Lord of the ring is not White, you ignorant spolied brat, It's European.
It's mostly Welsh folk tale mixed with Nordic and Germanic mythology.
By this poor illustration and the sad little explaination you put with it (I seriously thought that was a joke when I stumbled upon it) You showcase nothing more than your radical misunderstanding of women and of other culture than your own.
I see you disliked my tongue-in-cheek description. Sorry about that.
What I mean by "white" fantasy is simply that there is already a lot of fantasy stories out there that feature white people.
I'm not sure what you're trying argue with here.
My intention in creating this piece was to point out Tolkien's incredible trilogy has spawned many similar fantasy stories, also set in a mediaeval-European setting with mediaeval-European characters. As the patriarchal values at the time of Tolkien writing were stronger (in many ways) than they are now, he cast most of the important characters as men.
The trouble is, we've seen this many times before. We've seen plenty of fantasy based in mediaeval European settings with male protagonists.
The other problem is that this an age of film and television in which we are being constantly fed re-makes of established classics. We already have an excellent adaptation of Lord of the Rings for film.
So if we absolutely must adapt Lord of the Rings again - why not adapt it to different cultures? Why not have Aragorn hail from a country similar to New Zealand and a culture similar to Maori? Why not have Legolas and the elves based in a country similar to Namibia - where it is mainly desert rather than forest? Why not have a multitude of cultures rather than a single one?
Similarly, why not see what happens to the characters if they are female instead? What happens to the relationships of the fellowship? Do they stay the same or do they make for some interesting dynamics we haven't seen before?
I'm looking for new things in the entertainment I consume. I'm not saying anyone else has to agree, but I'd thank you not to post insult-based comments like the one above in future.
Cheers,
joshcmartin
Well I would actually like to see what you described.
But it wouldn't be the Lord of the Rings, well it would be so different that I don't understand to point of still calling it that.
Why not create a whole new global fantasy story ?
Still... it would be nice to see amazon do something different for their proposed TV show.
I think that social progressivism should be a little nicier towards conservatives to not alienate them,
To me your drawing and your description was like a punch in the face, that's why I reacted this way.
I must be more understanding.
But I guess my message would be : We must not try too much to change old things but to creat new things.
And one of the most racist thing I've ever seen.
It's by far the worst thing I've seen this week, and I've seen a hobo defecate in a subway train.