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A bit of neon touch...

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This is an eye catcher! It would make a great hall way picture. 
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Delightfully yonic.
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This looks similar to the cover of my HP Lovecraft collection
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I'm usually quiet on here but this deserves good words. I agree with Erik, this is definitely one of your better nebulas. Just the colors on this itself is quite harmonious with a good balance of saturation/unsaturated spots. The stars are also very well placed (something I always struggle with) and the luminosity of the stars flows well.

But the thing I admire most is the detail in the edges. It must take quite a lot of concentration and patience to paint these tiny & straight brush strokes to outline the edges in pink like these ViAXR4H by nehas91   tm5tkoD by nehas91   vMYijdA by nehas91  . I would probably get cross-eyed trying to get into those tiny spaces to make the strokes so hats off to you! I'm curious, does this take 90% of your effort? It would seem a momentous task given the scale of the scene. I hope you can keep more of this coming. It makes my imagination take off...if something like this exists somewhere in the universe. Makes life a bit more interesting, no?
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Thank you for your words. The tiny brush strokes lighting part isn't that difficult - this preview is about 30% zoom and the details are painted in 100%. However, these pink lines are made through a simple photoshop filter 'find edges' that I heavily adjust afterwards - you need to be really careful with this one, it only works with high-res images and even after that you need to shape, erase and smudge a lot of it. Otherwise it flattens the image. That said, I often really do paint many of these tiny details just to make them more diverse or to relax (because at this point the picture is actually mostly finished and I'm just enjoying adding the details).
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You know, I'm always amazed when people tell me they work in big canvas sizes because when you work with such big canvas and zoom in to paint details, isn't it hard to keep track of the overall picture? If you go through my gallery, most of my works top out at 1200px, ~2000 is stretching it. I find myself getting annoyed by having to zoom in for the details but then having to constantly zoom out to see how it those details I'm painting actually 'fit' into the actual size picture. Is there some trick/method to this I'm glossing over? 

Ohh find edges. I tried using this in one of my works at the beginning of this year and all I was able to get was a white fill image with a bunch of randomly colored lines. I wasn't able to manipulate it enough to make it actually work for the image and integrate into the space scene. Perhaps, I will give it another try. Why do you say it only works with high-res images? flattens the image?

In some ways, even after making space art on and off for many years now, I feel like I'm still a beginner. Especially with starfields/stars in general. They are my most strongest weakness if that makes sense. A cloud filter is always too random or levels are not random enough, stars are either too glowing or too hard (thinking about it gives me a headache)...still waiting and working for that 'aha lightbulb' moment to come on. In the meantime, I'll drool over your stars/starfields! They really are very nicely done all the time. 
It's a great feeling when the image is mostly done and you get to play around and paint in those final touches, that I do agree, is very relaxing in itself. 
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My images are usually 6000-10000px wide (the horizontal ones), so, yeah, it makes a lot of difference (but is demanding on the rig (8-core, 32GB of RAM in my case)). This however helps a lot when you work with the depth and details. Of course I zoom in and out frequently, that's part of the process - you just need to get used to it (I often swap the image vertically/horizontally during the process to freshen the artwork for my eyes and see it in a different angle - it helps with lighting and composition). The 'find edges' flattens the image because it doesn't take lighting into consideration - it just draws out outlines from every direction and this doesn't work with the overal scene lighting, therefore you need to erase parts that don't fit the artwork lighting. As for the starfield, again, higher resolution makes stars more delicate and smooths them a lot. I don't use any filters to erase/adjust starfields because it creates random pattern in the starfield which doesn't fit the scene composition - I mostly erase them by myself. This is one of the main things that people still don't understand in digital art - yeah, we use filters and yeah, we use a lot of other helpful shortcuts but it is the artistic touch of the hand, the manual labour and the patience with details that creates the image. You need to learn not to be afraid of spending time on manually adjusting bits and pieces here and there - it will take more time at first but later you'll know and will see where to put the effort. No good artwork was easy to make.
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I do all of my PS work on a 9yr old laptop with 4 gb RAM so that also limits how big I can go but maybe I will try working with a larger canvas for my next project. I'm someone who writes very tiny so my brushstrokes are also the same. Makes it difficult to paint in such a large canvas with tiny brushstrokes.  Sometimes I do get tired of looking at one image for weeks, I agree flipping the image is helpful. But I find that I get biased with the orientation I started out with so I rarely finish an image in a different orientation than the beginning. Hmm do you create stars while at 100% zoom? Do the stars not 'fade/disappear' once you work zoomed out again and thus make it harder to tell how things flow with the stars in the mix? 
Your final thoughts on the artistic touch is very true and inspiring. I must admit, I forget that myself sometimes. I think I needed that 'reminder' after not feeling very confident/good about my art lately and having the motivation to try again. 
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I usually create the stars in 'print' zoom size (about 20-30% zoom).
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Good job with the nebula! :thumbsup: ;)
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Love the epic composition of this one! Great work :)
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Thank you very much :)
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I like that your nebulae have a pretty unique look, so far I haven't seen anyone try to copy it. This is one of your better ones for sure. 
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Thank you. Well, good to know I've managed to have some 'trademark' :D ... It isn't intentional though.
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Beautiful as always!!
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