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What is Loli!?
What is the difference between Lolicon and Lolita!?
Thanks deviantART for banding our LoliFansClub, Now I have to explain this all over again!

First! Loli is indeed what deviantART call as underage girls,BUT under age girls or Loli art, ARE NOT 100% CHILD PORN GRAPHICS!! lots people always mistakes the meaning of this word, and think everything that is called Loli is related of child porn! which is NOT TRUE!! here is an example of Loli which is done of the LoliFansClub owner ZiyoLing
an example of Loli by LoliFansClub
If may I ask, which part of this Loli ART is EROTIC?

If you're gonna say something like :
"OMG she's wearing mini skirt..its too temptation...!!"

Then I would say... :
"LIKE I TOLD YOU SO...stay away from porns... even its not child porn, it ruins your innocent mind!!"

deviantART is filled of many Loli arts, that are just not being notify as a Loli, such as Anime, Naruto characters are even underage, Original Characters that we have created, some of them are also underage, they could be called Loli or Shota (boys) but that doesnt mean they ARE CHILD PORNS!!

You might ask...
Then why some people always calling my cute art Loli, Lolicon!?

Because they do not know what they are talking about!

Loli is the little cute girl that everyone likes!! that even females cant resist the cuteness of the Loli character, and Lolicon "IS LOLI IN WRONG THOUGHTS" yes, now you can yell "STOP THE CHILD PORN" for Loli's sake...

*ALTHOUGH some would say he or she's a Lolicon, but does not do child porn arts, and dont like those kind of arts. I wont have any comments on that, because its not matter of right and wrong, it is if you believe them*

For the enormous of child porn art are spread in the internet, it seems to misguide lots of people to think that the "Loli" word means of "CHILD PORN" which is NOT NOT NOT AND I SAY NOT TRUE!! enough? NO!! NOT TRUE!!! and Lolita is Fashion! the way you dress, also doesn't need to be underage, anyone can be in a Lolita dress style or Gothic Lolita.

※Its not the Loli word is wrong, its the person who draw the art wrong, or even think its wrong!!!

And if we must say, the club which =sash0 created is NOT for child porn!! calling the club is Created to promote and encourage artwork featuring erotic artwork of underage girls. is very unfair!! cause the club is avoiding those kind of arts!! and for the word Erotic, What is Erotic for you? same cute art *something like a Loli in pajamas sleeping quietly* could have different thoughts from different person,not because you think its erotic, it doesn't mean IT IS!! erotic...! why do you think its erotic? while the other person doesn't?? maybe because YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS EVIL THOUGHT ABOUT LOLI!!
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:iconbramblestar15:
Bramblestar15 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013
Thanks bro! Really helped out in my search for what lolicon is. I honestly thought it was child porn made legal.
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Deep-Strike Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad this group died.
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KitKatsCreations998 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you so much for the clarification!
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Mochin8r Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
Thank You
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Mofro-Know Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2012
I love you.
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Elegance-Whiteviolet Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2010
I must say I'ce been in love with thw fashion for a good while. So much so I make my own cloths. I see notning wrong with dressing up as a doll. Dad said the Lolita Fashion was for little girls only little girls dress like a lolita anymore.
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LovelyxLuna Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010  Student Artist
i have a loli dress and it isn't anything like "erotic" at all. in fact is't loli all about modesty? D:< whats wrong with people? why does everything have to be about sex nowadays? i think my brain has melted (and is now quite disturbed D8 ) from what i read about how sick majority of the people are!! :C
Stupid mods don't really live up to their jobs do they >.> they should at least look into something before just doing whatever others tell them to... or better yet why not just rid of all the art theives here! (sorry people my rant is over now ^^; )
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loligoth13 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
So true and judging from my name. Loli can mean alot of things XD I mean my name loligoth just means gothic-lolita and seriously, people who think of loli as child porn already have a predisposition maybe because... the actually uh... like that kinda stuff O_O
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ChrisHansenDateLine Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2009
Would you please take a seat? Right over there...
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quantum-force Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2009  Student General Artist
Currently can only found four kind of human nations. Realistic, Gamers, Otakus, and Artists. And it turns out that the nation that can understand the true meaning of Loli are mostly came out from the 3rd and 4th nation. They just spoke out "That's pedophile!" without knowing the meaning, AND didn't want to know. Reckless, and foolish.
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Snowgrl16 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2009
You call that a mini skirt?Please.I've seen skrits smaller than that!
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Snowgrl16 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009
Man,Loli and Shota has fictional characters which doesn't make it child porn,DA is getting worked up for nothing!
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Aiko-Hirocho Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2009  Professional General Artist
well only someone that does not research does not know the difference bestrewn lolicon and lolita.
lolicon yes is child porn..
and lolita is, what I use to say pretty lady with quilling ( ? ) dresses xD and umbrellas

but I guess that was you meant xD
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MahoMomo Featured By Owner May 5, 2009
Thank you, it's not the art that's bad... it's the people who have their minds in the gutter...
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EternalOmni Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2009  Hobbyist Artist
props yo, props
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an1me-qu33n Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2009
Thank you for finally speaking about this topic!!
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Zanjitsu Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2009  Student Digital Artist
I keep it nice and simple

Loli = Flat chested
Shota = Small built boys

And Lolita is gothic fashion

Well, it's actually no wonder that people get confused anyway
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blood-lust-demon Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
oh well I'm not a fan of it eitherway
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krunkman6 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2009
You know you love loli Hentai, sike Im just playing, Im sorry if that offended you, I agree with you only partially so, I love hentai because its a part of the Manga/Anime genre, I love it because it isn't just two people mindless abusing their bodies, its someone poring their heart and soul into art. Japan is a different society and even their Hentai is done with Love. The Passion and devotion they put into their work is different and their way of thinking is different. Random fact: I think the age of consent is like 12 or 14. Anyway I understand the frustration of people affiliating your art with porn, but at the same time I have a great respect for hentai and all anime/manga artists who put their heart into it.
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Bigfootmech Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2009
Even 4chan agrees that Lolis aren't child porn o0.

I agree with the whole easy way out. There needs to be some way to "support " things, like an opposite of reporting them. Maybe in a probation period. Otherwise all goes to pots.
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Nokkelborth Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2009  Student Digital Artist
I hated that when I saw it (the banning..)
I was like: asdf, WHAT'S UP WITH THE dA STAFF?!
but sadly yes, the club got banned .w.
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Darkened-Skys Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2009
The club has been banned 'cos of ignorant people! Gah!

When will people learn to read?! I mean Lolita fashion has nothing to do with the novel that is the reason for everyone thinking that the fashion is erotic. Sheesh, I mean you walk in to a public school and girls are wearing the skimpy clothes that are frowened up on the lolita subculture. D:

People really need to learn to be educated before they act.
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Oakarii Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2009
nice! so that's what lolita is! i used to think that only loli-shota is underage and that lolita is just a fashion.... thanks....
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EmotionDoesntMatter Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2009
Nice for just finding that out. Go lurk at 4chan and ED more. :)
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Monocoleboy Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2009
When ever I think of the word, "Loli" I think of a loli pop, that looks funny C:
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ExplosiveDictionary Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009
Oh rofl... :lmao: I saw the first pic and said... ''that's erm... interesting :P'' then scrolled down a bit and said, ''aww bugger :o''
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skater-noxie Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2009
you know with some of the things DA lets on here anyway unmoderated. i'm surprised that a lolita fan club has been banned... ok. the word loli has it's roots in "child porn"
but the japanese broke away from that and created lolita as the name of an albeit misinterpreted childlike fashion sense. lolita is a valid fashion sense. lolita is a style and the clothes are for sale across the globe.

so why should DA ban an account when it has no expicit images?? just a misinterpretation of something. loli... pfft... if the mod who banned it took a second to look through the gallery or even research the term they would have come across this widespread japanese phenomenon called loli, egl, sweet lolita etc etc.
i've seen much worse being submitted in ways of deviations... *things that are VERY vulgar and explicit* like fetish photography. which is always gathering a following.
and yet I can't believe a bunch of cute teenage artists who like having tea parties and dressing up in costumes playing with teddies and drawing pictures of those loli inspired characters are censored and banned??

wtf DA?!
i'm a lolita and I don't do child porn..
that's just an un-educated misconception.
i hope DA rectifies it's mistake
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ExplosiveDictionary Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009
OMG they just banned it?! I was thinking of probably getting into that type of drawing :'(
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skater-noxie Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009
i'm not sure if they banned loli art in general *as in submissions and the like* but I know for sure they have banned the gothic lolita club. it's so lame.
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ExplosiveDictionary Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009
Ya that does suck bad :( now can't get in contact or anything with the toher loli drawers :o Ah well, gotta go ahead on me own :p
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SakkyxHaruno Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2009
That's way dumb. Theres nothing wrong with Loli art. |:
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anime-kiki Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2009
its so unfair :( and 2 fink dat i joined dat club...i didnt get 2 post any deviations! :cries:
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Kyousukey Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2009
allot of people get banned for stupid things on d.a but oh well, I didn't find anything erotic about that club I thought it was a cute idea.
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Stinkofan20X6 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2008
I thought it was where you got adverbs (loli, loli, loli, get your adverbs here...)

...Damn you, Schoolhouse Rock!
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sensei-pao Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2008  Student General Artist
Yeah, you're right... Some people is so stupid... I would like to upload pics with cute girls but I'm afraid that they could be confused with lolicon porn... :(
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CageRampage Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2008
I'm the 60th person to love this article :love:
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blackcookie1988 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
It is so true.I'm female,but I love both-2D boys & girls that are under age.Does that make me a hentai? XP
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icecream-manic Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2008
ohhh!!! so that's what it means! :D everyone keeps saying "Loli, Lolicon" but no one tells me, but now I know! thankyous! X3
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Pilikita Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
Nice, I love loli ;D love it!
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airmi Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i LOVE loli! ^^
in fact i almost only do lolis, lol
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M-A-F Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Argh I'm stupid...everyone own oppinions is confusing...I always though loli was short of lolita? Like gothic lolita, the cute doll-like fashion
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M-A-F Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol-ee
@_@ All I know is I can't stand anything to do with child porn images.

Oh..I only just read somewhere "loli" being cute shiny art of young anime girls, confuzzled. I was about to say if that what this stuff everyone's doing is called "Loli" I don't mind it, because I do like a bit opf cute a shiny~

Lolicon and Shotacon is the stuff I hate then? I dunno...
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Fan-of-yours Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2008
the other thing about this is... even if someone has a lolicon fetish, it doesn't mean that it translates into real life. Some people are merely attracted to animated lolicon, but find real children totally non erotic. Its like the porn vs hentai thing. They are two different things...
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Pericles Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2008
why do you think its erotic? while the other person doesn't?? maybe because YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS EVIL THOUGHT ABOUT LOLI!

That's exactly what I'm saying so many years. The "wrong" is in the eye of the beholder. If you're a perv, you'll see sexy things even in a scene where a mom changes her baby (OMG! NUDE! EVIL! PORN! OMG!!)

Well said. :)
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kuroi-alexielfx3 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2008
maybe changing the name of the club would work?

I know through good enough explanation it should be all right..I think...

instead of LoliFans how about something about Loliart or something that has to do with the art obsession.

That'll be another confirmation that dA is against loli art if it is deleted. If not, then maybe it would be something wrong with the naming.

just something that came to me...
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giadrosich Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Banning this club was just wrong, both from a philosophical and from an aesthetic point of view.
That being said, it's much easier to ban something that one doesn't understand than to try and take the time to discern the difference between what is and what isn't acceptable.

According to DA, artistic license allows the swinging richards and taco princesses their due, but whisper the word "lolita" and, by golly, that smacks of something far more sinister...
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rainwizard Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2008
Pointless bump, I know such a thread won't ever gather much popularity.

I was actually wondering why I wasn't getting any new update from the club. I'm not a member because I'd been of no help (being unable to draw properly), but the cuteness of some works was indeed motivational so I add the club to my watchlist.

It's quite a shame that something like this happened. And no, I'm sick of those crappy excuses like 'we can't check everything': everybody knows it's a lie, the proofs are under everybody's sight; some things get chopped in no time, some things are plainly ignored. We are not THAT dumb, are we?

More than the person that actually deletes it, I despise people that reports it. Dare I say, repressed? A person with an equilibrate mind can mark the line between erotic and not. If exist somebody that will fap to it anyway (some rule of the internet I forgot), should the artist be blamed for that? Like he/she had any guilt, from the start.
Again, I'm sick of their pityful excuses, they make no sense. Truth is, they see it as something deviated (maybe right because they're sexually repressed themselves), so they hate it and want them wiped out from the face of the earth.

This were my 2 cents.

And yeah, maybe dA's staff is full of integralist male homosexuals, because male pr0n too often (*cough*always*cough*) is saved from the ban. It's not yaoi's fault, it's just Petty Enforcer's hypocrisy.



ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!
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Zetra006 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2008
The fact that we all MUST know...
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kuroi-alexielfx3 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2008
maybe the loli club was banned because of how the name "lolita' originally came to be (the definition from the book by Nabakov)...that's what a lolita used to be in the past..thanks to things like anime, I think, the term Lolita has been put into something that is young and cute.
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Thanh-Ren Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2008
Lolita is different from Lolicon
Loli means that young girls
Lolicon is where yound girl are portray in a hentai way.
Really I like Yaoi and Shotas more, but you have a point.
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