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yes it's the same girl as the colorful one and "Aperture"
i did make a b&w conversion, just not sure about it yet.
i have a straight monochrome, and one with a sepia tone,
which i find works out a bit better than the color verso.
and no, i dont mind it at all
i'd be lost if KissmyHuman
didn't make a suggestion, and the same with you as well.
this is one of those photos that's gonna be re-worked again
and again lol until i'm finally happy with it. the noise levels
just makes it so difficult sometimes. can't wait to learn a film
camera
i'll update with a monochrome version when i get more
time later on in the day. thanks again for the indepth analysis
it's just what i needed.
i did make a b&w conversion, just not sure about it yet.
i have a straight monochrome, and one with a sepia tone,
which i find works out a bit better than the color verso.
and no, i dont mind it at all

didn't make a suggestion, and the same with you as well.
this is one of those photos that's gonna be re-worked again
and again lol until i'm finally happy with it. the noise levels
just makes it so difficult sometimes. can't wait to learn a film
camera

time later on in the day. thanks again for the indepth analysis


i'm alright with editting, but dealing with excessive 800+ ISO noise is just something i never learned to deal or be patient with. even if i had a pen tool i probably still wouldn't enjoy it lol. i can't wait to have more money and make the switch to film and set up my own dark room (oh right, i still have to learn that too). although i'm starting to really like black and white nowadays, not to mention the sepia tone
i find street and journalism is so much better in black and white.


ISO can be a right pita! I slowly started re-editing pre-Lightroom uploads, any I think are worth the effort. I have one taken on 1600 ISO, the noise is insane! I did the original edit in Elements which is crap compared to LR because it doesn't read RAW files. I tried to edit the same image from RAW in LR and the results suck to high heaven, for once an Elements version won.
I was
trying to figure out how and where I could set up a makeshift darkroom in my house... totally WHITE bathrooms. ^bQw reminded me... dark bags! I haven't used one before so I'm borrowing one to see how they work. I had an interesting technique for loading film tanks when I couldn't get into the darkroom. I used to cover my bedroom windows and door in black plastic, cover my bed in another sheet of black plastic and crawl under the covers with my tanks, film and a can opener... my feet on the pillow. I almost suffocated a couple of times, but it worked 
I was



I'm thinking if you want to keep that level of sharpness, perhaps do it on copied layer and mask it off in areas where there isn't a lot of detail like the left side of the image, just to drop down the level of apparent noise.
I'm all for grain/pseudo-grain but because it's on the sharper side it looks blocky and not as pleasing.
I'm all for grain/pseudo-grain but because it's on the sharper side it looks blocky and not as pleasing.
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