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Waterscapes Month: Intro and Feedback Frenzy

Journal Entry: Sun Oct 1, 2017, 4:00 AM
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Hello and welcome to AnimalsPlantsNature's next themed month. During the month of October, we'll be showcasing...  :drumroll: for photohunt by PunkyB  :drumroll: for photohunt by PunkyB  :drumroll: for photohunt by PunkyB

Waterscapes Photography!


Waterscapes is a widely popular subcategory of APN! Capturing the beauty and ferocity of our planet's water bodies, Waterscape photography can display a mix of emotions. From the still, smoky waters of a long exposure photograph to crashing waves that show the tempermental movements of a stormy ocean, this category can bring truly stunning visuals to your computer screen! You'll see crystalline reflections, foamy waves, and water that turns the color of the sky... Among much more!  Waterscape photographs should include some sort of water body as the main subject of the photo. Pieces that put an emphasis on landmasses or skies would belong in different subcategories. Check out some prime waterscape photographs below!


.. by Rizone
Over and over again... by werolDecay II by NicoFroehberg
Shorebreak by Vitaly-Sokol


Here is what you can expect to see from us this month:
  • Interviews with deviants who represent this category with beautiful artwork
  • Features to showcase some of the category's best deviations
  • Tutorials to help you create your own photography
  • Oh... And a Feedback Frenzy! More details on that below.
We hope you're as excited for this as we are!


Participate in our Feedback Frenzy to Win Prizes!


We understand it can be difficult to get feedback on a website as large as DeviantArt! AnimalsPlantsNature group would like to help our nature photographers get some advice and so we're going to be offering this Feedback Frenzy event. The Feedback Frenzy will be offered during our themed months where it may be difficult to get a lot of entries for our regular contest. And best news is... While we will be offering real prizes, everyone receiving feedback is a winner :la:

How it Works

  • Deviants may submit only one APN photograph to the Feedback Frenzy by leaving a comment with a thumbnail in this journal:
    • Your photograph must be submitted to ANY of the Animals, Plants, & Nature subcategories on DeviantArt. All other categories will be disqualified from the contest.
    • To leave a thumbnail and request feedback, you must also reply to at least one other thumbnail in this blog.
    • If you are requesting feedback by sharing a thumbnail in the comments then you are saying it is ok for people to critique your art. Please be respectful of others' opinions on your work.

  • You will earn 1 raffle entry for each qualifying feedback comment:
    • To do this, you must leave feedback on a piece by directly replying to the user's comment in this blog. Leaving a comment on the deviation itself will NOT earn you an entry. We will not be browsing deviation pages for comments.
    • You may only earn 1 raffle entry per photograph.
    • You can earn an unlimited amount of entries so keep checking back throughout the month for new artwork to reply to!

  • What is a qualifying feedback comment?
    • Thoughtful feedback. Your feedback should include what you like about the piece but it MUST include what you think the artist can improve on, in detail, regarding the piece. 
      For example,
      DON'T only say "this piece is great". It is not thoughtful feedback. 
      DO say "I like this piece, the subject is clearly defined; however, I believe the focus could be better since the subject is blurry while the background is more focused". This is considered thoughtful. 
    • Please note that rude comments will not be granted an entry. 

Deadline

You will have until Saturday, October 21st at 11:59 pm PST to leave your replies with feedback!

When the frenzy ends, the judges will go through the comment replies on this blog only to see who left qualifying replies.

What Can You Win?!


Fewer than 5 Participants:
We will draw 1 winner for a 3-month Core Membership.

From 5-10 Participants:
We will draw 2 winners for a 3-month Core Membership.

More than 10 Participants:
We will draw 3 winners for a 3-month Core Membership.

Every qualifying participant will be featured in the month's conclusion journal!

And Your Judges for this Feedback Frenzy Are:


:iconjenfruzz: & :iconyuukon:


Journal skin by UszatyArbuz
Photo by The-Panic
Join us for Waterscapes month and join the Feedback Frenzy to get feedback on your nature photographs!
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
It was hard to decide. I thought about taking a photo that wasn't as popular as I had wished it to become and I found three of them.
So I guess I'll take this:
Ermine on the Rocks by SchwarzWieEbenholZ
This was the first time I have ever seen a hermine and I had to be quick as this animal is really quick when it senses danger.
I really like this photo in black and white as it has a nice and dynamic range of grayscale. And I like how the animal stands out against the dark background.
But I became sad when it only got 15 favs...
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
I think the reason this only got 15 faves is because it's the bright, sunlit rock in the centre of frame that draws the eye, rather than the animal. It blends in too well amongst the scenery. A little dodge and burn here and there might help lead the eye where you want it, but i'm not sure.
Otherwise i think the processing of this image is quite good, you've kept the full range of tones through the image without losing any detail.
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
Thank you for your comment.
That's an interesting point. I really wonder if it would change anything if the rock was darker - maybe then, it's too dark? 
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
I'll put this one up for critique as it's an image that i was quite pleased with, and i spent quite some time framing the image just-so in camera. I have been trying to work on some more intimate landscapes, and have been looking at the style of some of the old 4x5 film photographers for inspiration.
It's also just about my least popular shot ever Sweating a little... 

Interested to know what others think.

Lichen-scape by slayer-of-moments
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
What I like about this image is the arrangement of stones. The round and triangular shapes. The dark demon with orange hair looking down to the white folks...
Nevertheless, the orange is somehow distracting the eye to the upper side of the picture and I feel that's not the center that was meant to be, is it?
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
slayer-of-moments Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017
It was the orange lichen that caught my eye when i was shooting this one, and i tried to compose something around it.
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
Then maybe it's a bit out of the center of focus.
You could try getting closer to the lichen and use the surroundings only as decoration.
At least for me, the stones make the subject of the image. I don't know how others think about it though... :)
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
slayer-of-moments Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017
fair enough. I think my attempt to use the rocks may have been a bit ham fisted Sweating a little... 
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
I like the stones, too.
Stones can be interesting photo subjects. Some of them have faces! :lol:
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I like this shot, it kind of looks like fall. I also like the contrasting colors, and multiple textures that are visible in the photograph. However it makes the photo a bit on the busy side, without a singular focus point.

I would first like to mention that I would not consider this a "landscape" photo. When I am thinking landscape my mind is looking for a wide shot that focuses on a larger area like in this photo:
Shire by MartinAmm

I personally would have classified this as a "Geology" photo. As the focus of your photo is the rocks and actually not a scape shot. Yours is more like:
Beach Rocks by NomadicWorld25

Now that we have classification out of the way we can go into what could be done to improve your shot. I see that you were using the photographer Eliot Porter and after looking at his photos, many of his geology shots are done in portrait style. The thing is not all shots can be done in that style. I think that I would have liked to either see a closer shot or further out. Your shot just feels a little cramped. 

Here you can see that the photographer chose to do a tighter shot, choosing not to incorporate such a broad selection interest points. Your eye is immediately drawn to the pool.
The Spirit Pool by novelhill

Here you can see as you broaden a shot even using portrait style you actually end up focusing the photo on the green covered rocks and they pull you into the photo to see the entire shot.
Titans by Inebriantia

I hope you find these points helpful on your next shoot!
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
slayer-of-moments Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017
Thanks Amarantheans
I will try and give you a more in depth reply at some point, but good feedback Nod 
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
No worries. I am just happy to give some tips :D
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
slayer-of-moments,

I am so surprised that this is your favorite shot but it is your least popular shot in your gallery! Because. this. is. absolutely. gorgeous!!
I would definitely say that your attempt at intimate landscapes was very successful. The colors are stunning and the way you framed that circular stone almost center of the shot draws the eye beautifully. This photo is definitely going to be a new addition to my "Inspiration" folder in my favorites. I also quickly browsed your gallery to see your other landscape photography and it is a beautiful collection. I definitely want to see more from you!
I do not have a critique for your photo. I cannot think of any way to improve such a perfect shot. I do have a recommendation for a way to get more exposure for your artwork and gallery in general however: submit your work to more groups. I was having the same difficulty with getting traffic to my page and my deviations until I started to participate more in the community and submit as much of my work to as many groups as I could. So far it has been very successful and I have seen a significant increase in views and favorites ever since. It hurts my heart to see such a wonderful and exotic gallery so undiscovered!
In conclusion, perfect! Amazing job and I definitely want to see what else you capture in the future!

WeirdFish Fish
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
Geez i'm sure it's not as good as all that No, I disagree!  Thanks for the kind words though Nod

I appreciate that an abstract landscape like this would be challenging to critique. I will try to submit to a few more groups in the future though. I think i gave up with this image after it was declined by APN for whatever reason.
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
I just love this photo! Heart
It is a challenging photo to critique because you obviously have a clear understanding of photography basics like composition, lighting, focus, etc. I cannot nail down a single thing that I would want to see from this photo that is not already there.
Hmm, I wonder why it was declined... it seems to meet all the criteria to me. Maybe they will reconsider after another try?
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:iconuszatyarbuz:
UszatyArbuz Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2017   Digital Artist
I don't think I understand all.. do I have to submit my own photography to comment on other's as well, to be considerate as participant for a raffle? Or can I just comment without submitting my own photo? ^^;
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:iconjenfruzz:
JenFruzz Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
We have enough photos in so feel free to just comment :)
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:iconuszatyarbuz:
UszatyArbuz Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2017   Digital Artist
Got it! I'll see if I have a spare minute to comment ^^
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:iconpearwood:
pearwood Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
To photograph water well, you have to love it.
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:icontheresashaw:
theresashaw Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Professional Photographer
Hi I would like some feed back :) on this guy I can't remember  do bears shit in the woods? by theresashaw    where I found him but must have been in a park as I remember the conservation officer yelling at me to get back in my car lol. I have this bad habit of coming upon animals just as they are taking a poo maybe it's my calling card as that seems to be the only way I can find them lol
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
It's a great snapshot. The bear's expression isn't that bad.
If the rest of the image was better, I guess it would get more favs. 
More space on the right and upper part of the picture. Maybe you going downwards to get more depth in field. 
Opening the aperture a bit. I guess this would be it.
Great to meet such a fellow though! :)
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
It is always more difficult to get in tight on an animal that is actually in nature so I will immediately let that go. I agree with WeirdFishPhotography that maybe not having the entire bear in the center of the shot would have looked better. Maybe having his face central in the photograph would have been better and also taking in his background into the photo rather than all of the foreground. Over all the bear is well focused and it is a clear shot. If you had been able to get the background into the photo I think that you could have worked with depth of field blurring the rest of the shot.

In this photo you can see the background and the face is closer to the center of the shot and the background is blurred with a shallow Depth of Field, they also didn't include a lot of the foreground in the shot.
Under the rain by BogdanBoev

This little guy is further out and has a lot of foreground and background, but the background is blurred and he is central in the photo. So Depth of Field comes into play again.
Free to Roam by Nate-Zeman

So centering the animal and practicing with Depth of Field. Here is a good simple tutorial that helps understand the settings you have to work with: Shutter Speed, Aperture, ISO
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
theresashaw,

First off, the title of this photo made me laugh! My timing with photographing animals tends to be like this too, so I completely know the feeling.
Overall, good focus, good framing of the subject (especially with his face pointed in your direction), and good timing (albeit comedic) to capture an animal that most people do not see everyday.
What I would have liked to have seen personally is a different composition of the photo utilizing a more eye-catching take on the "rule of thirds", maybe with the bear more towards the bottom right of the frame allowing the rest of the photo to display the kind of environment the bear was among. You were probably a good distance away from the bear at the time you captured this shot, so it is understandable if you were unable to push in any more or focus more than you already did. Whenever there is an opportunity to do either one of those things though, I take advantage to get more intimate shots of my subject.
In conclusion, overall great capture! Great job and I look forward to seeing what else you capture in the future!

WeirdFish Fish
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:icontheresashaw:
theresashaw Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Professional Photographer
ty so much!
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Hi there, AnimalsPlantsNature!
My name is Kaitlyn Sturgeon (AKA WeirdFish) and I am looking for a genuine critique of my photo, "Among the Locals" [Among the Locals]:

Among the Locals by WeirdFishPhotography

A little bit of background information:

I photograph as a hobby but I am also always looking to grow. I have been taking pictures since 2010 and am very much still learning the technical aspect of photography. The last feedback frenzy helped me grow and improve a lot! I decided to embark on a photography adventure after the last critiques I received and learn more about ISO, Aperture, and Shutter Speed (You can read more about my adventure here: WeirdFish's Photography Goals).
This photo was taken on September 1, 2017 at Pier 39 in San Francisco, California with my Canon Rebel T2i with a telephoto lens. I chose this photo in particular out of my plethora of photos because it is the most recent photograph I have in my gallery. While I appreciate feedback on all of my photos, feedback on my most recent photos is more relevant for how I can grow now. And with this photo in particular, I photographed it directly after reevaluating what I wanted to improve with my photography. I paid special attention to the numbers (ISO, Aperture, and Shutter Speed) and the points that were brought out in the critiques I received while capturing this shot.

Thank you!
WeirdFish Fish
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
Although the colors are similar to each other, you managed to create depth in field because of the distance between the seagull and the seals. 
You could have opened the aperture a bit more but actually, it's quite nice that you can recognize that those are seals. I also like the colors in this picture.
The only thing that is a bit gross is the bird's poo :lol:
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
SchawrzWieEbenholZ,

Thank you so much for your feedback!
It was definitely a tricky and challenging shot but I think it is a step in the right direction towards improving my photography.
Haha! That is the thing about birds, they poop everywhere!
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2017  Professional Photographer
Yeah I know...
I cleaned the whole roof in this picture! =P
Rooftop Vagabond by SchwarzWieEbenholZ
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a very clear photograph of a seagull. I like your usage of depth of field, trying to keep the focus on the gull. I also like the use of positioning, using the rule of thirds. The seals initially seem like a nice touch for the backdrop, however the color of the background and foreground are a little too similar taking away from the gull. I think that the lighting is good, and I know it is not like you can make a gull pose for you, however I would like to see the sun highlighting the birds face rather than it being in the shadow.

I would like to show you some thumbs that may help in the future:

Here is quite an ordinary bird and the dof is great, however the color of the backdrop is in contrast to the bird making it stand out more.
..Bird.. by fruitpunch1

These are much like yours in color however it is a tighter shot on the bird making it stand out more.
bird by cloe-patra Spread Wings by BogdanBoev

I know that the seals are added to the photo as a backdrop, however the slight focus on them still draws away from the bird, regrettably I think that the bird would have been better on a more blurred backdrop. Again also possibly in a tighter shot.
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Amarantheans,

Thank you so very much for your critique (and thumbnails for reference as well)!
I agree all of your points. I was torn at the time about whether I should blur the seals into the background more or not but ended up deciding that I wanted them to be more apparent to the audience since they were the typical subjects of photographs in this part of San Francisco. However, because of the similar colors of both the seagull and the seals the eye tends to blur both the foreground and the background together. I do agree that a tighter shot might have helped, but unfortunately my lens was extended as far out as it would allow me.
Thank you for bringing all of these points out! I will definitely keep your critique in mind during my next outing!

Thank you so very much once again!
WeirdFish Fish
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You are most welcome. I defiantly understand wanting the viewer to know what the backdrop is made up of and it is aggravating trying to make a balance sometimes. I am by no means a professional photographer, I also consider it a hobby, but it is one that I love :heart: Getting involved in AnimalsPlantsNature really has helped me. I do have my interview series that you can find all of them here, My work with AnimalsPlantsNature. Many of the amazing photographers give really good advice. 
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you! Hug 
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Your welcome 
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I would love feedback on this photo:
Mallard Pond by Amarantheans
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2017  Professional Photographer
The arrangement is pretty cool. Just two things: The leaves point into the duck's eyes and I would have preferred a bit more of one side of the face.
Animals are not perfect models but I think that compared to other animals, you can quite easily practice with ducks as they are everywhere. So you can just sit down at a lake, throw in some bread and wait for the perfect moment to arrive :)
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks so much for the input, I should have been a bit more patient but my daughter was rushing me.
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2017  Professional Photographer
Give her some bread :lol:
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:D actually bread is horrible for them... 
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2017  Professional Photographer
Then it's better for them to only eat algae?
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
No, they just need to eat more natural items, as bread is a complex food it can cause issues, feed them veggies, seeds, oats instead.

www.express.co.uk/news/nature/…
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:iconschwarzwieebenholz:
SchwarzWieEbenholZ Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Professional Photographer
Good to know!
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:iconslayer-of-moments:
Seems to be all animal photos so far which are not really my area of expertise but i'll do my best :)

Technically this photo is good, no blown highlights or loss of detail in shadows is good, and i like the the way the colors are represented, nice and natural.
I think using a Circular Polariser may be beneficial to you when shooting around water - they really help to cut some of the reflected glare off the water and plants.
I'm not a big fan of the compostion. Ideally the viewers eyes would be drawn toward the duck's head / face, but this isn't the case. As the WeirdFish person mentioned, it would have been better to put the duck side on in the image, or if you have to shoot front on, do it in such a way that the head is not framed against the ducks body, thereby providing some contrast.
Also consider putting the ducks eyes on or near one of the rule of thirds lines. This will also help lead the viewers eyes to the ducks face.

Hope that's helpful!
James.
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the excellent feedback, I am always working to better my photography!
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Amarantheans,

Beautiful photo! The colors, the lighting, the framing, the focus, and the way you captured the drop of water clinging onto the end of her beak - perfect!
The only thing I would have maybe liked to have seen personally would have been more of a side profile of the duck's face to really show off her features and the water droplets collected on her feathers. However, I know from experience that animals are not the easiest subjects to photograph since their movements are unpredictable and hard to capture at the right time.
Overall, beautiful capture of what most people would consider an "ordinary" animal! Wonderful job and I look forward to seeing what else you capture in the future!

WeirdFish Fish
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww :blush: Thanks so much for your feedback. My daughter was with me this day and was annoyed as I stalked the duck for quite some time :giggle:
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:iconweirdfishphotography:
WeirdFishPhotography Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
Hug 
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:icontheresashaw:
theresashaw Featured By Owner Edited Oct 1, 2017  Professional Photographer
I love ducks the photo is nice and in focus and your not getting any ugly water refraction which is nice, lilies and other water plants have a habit of being over exposed ( due to light play on water and just there  makeup ) almost like in the top right hand corner but the other ones are fine and it dose not  distract from the duck, other then that there is the problem of the duck looking like its getting poked in the eye with the leaf :( but I should not talk as I have that problem too  another brown bear eatting by theresashaw   I was not patient enough :( to wait for him to move 
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:iconamarantheans:
Amarantheans Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:giggle: Yes, I did a shoot of some baby geese and they refused to move out of the tall grass! I defiantly get the inpatient feeling. This duck was stalked for quite some time and this was the only one where there was nothing blocking part of her. So a little poke in the eye was the price I paid.
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theresashaw Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2017  Professional Photographer
:)
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Wildtale Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
Here's my photo for the feedback frenzy:
Blue Eyes Blond Fur by Wildtale
There's something wrong with this photo, but I don't know what. It was rejected by APN, but I have no idea why. Maybe you all can help me figure it out so I can do better next time. X3
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