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old man - trusty friend tut by jarling-art old man - trusty friend tut by jarling-art
Just did this little “how I did it” to my “the old man and his trusty friend” and tought maybe someone is interested to see it :-). However, here it is.
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Berocide Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2006
Amazing, that texture really unifies the image and brings it all together. Thanks for sharing your insight with the how-to!

I've used painter a bit, but i love the photoshop layers and masks. Is there a way to use miltiple layers in painter without getting the crabby white edgeing around the layer, its where the pain isnt solid but has degrees of opacity and instead of fading it just becomes white. I normally pull it into photoshop and give it a mask, lol.
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2006
Well i think if you are comfortable with Photoshop there is no need to use Painter. The reason I use Painter is simply that I am (or better was, haha) a traditional media illustrator, so jumping into painting digital Painter made it easier to me than Photoshop, as Painter just “feels” more like painting with “real” traditional color than Photoshop does.
As for your layer question, well, I usually don’t use much layers when it comes to painting, but I never had trouble using layers in Painter, now it even picks the color of underlaying layers when you blend colors with the blender or use brushes that pick the underlaying color. Never realized such white edgings, but as said I seldom use much layers so maybe that’s the reason why I never realized that.
But as said there’s no reason why someone should use Painter instead Photoshop, both are great programs (I use them both, I always use Photoshop at the very end of each painting to do final color corrections and things alike), everyone should use the software he/she’s most comfortable with :-).
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Berocide Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2006
Yeah, i really like the more texture and quality of the media in painter, though i have been experimenting with the different brushes and textures in photoshop.

I probably just need a bit more experience with painter, really only used it once for the plane on here, lol. I just love the idea of layers and keeping bits separate so that you can go back at any time and fix bits up. Thank you soo much, i was using guache on one layer (bg) then moved to the MG and used the same thick guache brush, and because the edges are a bit feathery it came out white, give it a try and ill try again, it could just have been me being a retard.

Thanks again for the help, and keep up teh great work, its simply amazing!
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EvilNinjaRochelle Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2006
You are right, that final effect is utterly fantastic :)
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Archercaptain Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2006
Wow, awesome...it really does tie the piece together very well. Looks beautiful, I'll keep that in mind when I do digital pics as well. :)
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mindofka Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2006
Yes! I adore to see makingof, this 3 steps made me fall in love, and I really love the piece :heart:
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zoephoenix Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2006
good good stuff :nod: :clap: :+fav:
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2006
Thank you, glad you like :-)
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zoephoenix Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2006
you're welcome, of course :)
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yohkoharu Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Just Amazing:D
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Thank you :-)
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rewston Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2006
ooh this is just fabulous. was this done with Painter 9?
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Thanks for the nice words, yes it is Painter 9, the first good update since Painter 6, i really can recommend it, fantastic software :-)
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Rita-Ria Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
Wie gesagt Uwe, ich habe keine Ahnung von digitaler Malerei - finde es aber trotzdem interessant! :D
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Das kriegen wir auch noch hin mit der digitalen Malerei, ist im prinzip nicht anders al traditionell Malen :-). (Ich schick dir morgendas Foto,bin heute nicht dazu gekommen da ich eben erst auss der Agentur gekommen bin, haben Abgabewoche und da wirds meist immer extrem lang bis in den morgen :-(. Hoffe ich komm morgen bälder heim)
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Rita-Ria Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006  Professional Traditional Artist
:hug: bist ein echter Schatz :D
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Clovenhoof Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006  Professional General Artist
i've read some similar tutorials where the same kind of technique was employed, only in a fashion where everything was done with watercolours.
as it's a part of painter i haven't tried out that much i felt very obliged to do so when reading about the texturing part.

it sure does look good either way. a very good piece otherwise, excellent drawing (as usual =D).
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
never used pure watercolors in Painter, i mostly use it for texturing or glazings, for the opaque part i mostly use Painters oils and sometimes the acrylics.
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Clovenhoof Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006  Professional General Artist
yeah, i find the "steadier" mediums more comfortable, too, especially for characters. but the texturing engine for watercolors is quite astounding and can do quite a lot for the finish.

a great demonstration of that this piece, nice theme also. rather symbolical i say =D
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Manofthewoods Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
I love the change between the oil brush image and the image with the transparent backgroun laid over it. The added texture makes the picture look incredibly real.
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Yes i liked the effect very much, sad thing is as it just happend, i fear it won't work a second time - haha.
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cmalidore Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006  Professional General Artist
Awesome information man, thanks for the lil tidbits of knowledge :)
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
No problem my friend, but i think it doesn't show you something that you not already know ;-).
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cmalidore Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2006  Professional General Artist
Not necessarily, but it may rekindle an idea in my head or two about textures or something. That's the true value of knowledge - to remember it some day ;). Now I may remember something that I may not have previously.
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Steelpengu Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
O_O Wow, I just got Painter IX and have been messing around with it but not yielding any significant results... this is most educational....
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
If it is any helpful, it makes me happy - thanks for commenting :-).
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Black-Birdgreen Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
WOW well the end result looks amazing... great work.. :clap: :smooch:
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Thanks, glad you like :-)
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Black-Birdgreen Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
I did :glomp:
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thespaceinvader Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
Awesome. Makes me wish like nobody's business that i had painter...
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2006
Thanks :-), Well, I think you could achieve the same thing using Photoshop, the main reason i use Painter is - it feels more like traditional painting than Photoshop for example does - but at the end every digital image are just some pixels, not more not less.
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thespaceinvader Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2006
Yeah. I'm working on getting my stuff more realistic, But i'm working in GIMP, so it becomes a bit harder, as the interfaces aren't so intuitive as PSs.
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hagarun Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
you improved alot in that software since your very first painter work I have to admit =) do you use the newest painter or an older version ?
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
Wow - thanks, great you see some improvement in my digital work, well at least i hope i improved a little ;-)
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hagarun Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
Sicher schlussendlich sehe ich deine Bilder nun schon seit Jahren ;) Wobei ich mal wieder richtig Lust hätte so einen schönen "Ölschinken" von Dir zu sehen.

Ich hoffe mal Du siehst das auch- sonst musst Du vielleicht mal eine Brille organisieren =P
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
Haha, mensch Alex sag doch gleich dass Du es bist, ich krieg das nie auf die Reihe mit den Nicknames :-)) - Ja so ein Ölschinken hat schon was, aber ich muss gestehen dass ich momentan wirklich lieber digital male, es ist einfach so viel schneller, und ich trau mich auch viel mehr zu experimentieren als mit traditioneller Malerei. Und da die Deadlines heutzutage immer so eng sind ist es für mich einfach fast nicht mehr möglich Auftagsarbeiten traditionell zu machen.
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hagarun Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
Naja ich hatte nicht gedacht das Du nicht noch an mich erinnerst- zwischenzeitlich hatte ich auch die Nicknames gewechselt und war eine sehr lange Zeit nicht mehr auf Epilogue.

Ja das glaub ich Dir gerne- ich denke bei jemanden der digital angefangen hat schlägt es andersrum ein- ich hatte mir vor einiger Zeit zu meinem Geburtstag eine "Erst Öl Ausstattung" geholt und ich war entsetzt wie unglaublich laaaange das dauert - aber auch wenn die Ergebnisse nun.. aeh gruselig sind macht es doch sehr viel Spass.

Hehe ich kann mir gut vorstellen das Du sehr gefragt bist- ich bin echt mal gespannt ob ich nicht irgendwann ein Bild von Dir auf ner neuen Manowar oder Rhapsody etc CD finde ;)
Wobei ich schon sagen muss -beneidenswert für einen Laien zu hören das Du so gut ausgebucht bist =)
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DesteN Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006  Professional Digital Artist
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very cool! :)
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jarling-art Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2006
thanks :-)
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