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Paypal chargebacks? What are they exactly? Under what circumstances can you fill one up? 

24 deviants said Can someone explain the charge back thingy to me better? is sort of confusing.
19 deviants said The situation many of our fellow artists are going through is really depressing TT
8 deviants said And as time passes by there seems to be more and more victims

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TheMilwaukeeProtocol Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I didn't know about this, but I am a very dependable commissioner, and I usually tip. Anyone who has done paid work for me will attest to that:
The only reason I haven't commissioned more is because I don't have tons of cash.
So, I guess my point is that there are still people like me for every 100 shitbags you meet on the Web.
I wish you the best of luck with that. :(
Let me know if I can help in any way.
AquaGalaxy Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2014
the commissioner who buys the art tells paypal they never got the item and then the money goes back to them.
Avoiding it is quite hard so you'll have to just in general avoid people who haven't been on deviantart for long enough since you don't know who it could be.
I've never seen the artist get the money back. Paypal seems to always work in favour of the commissioner
AnibarutheCat Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
there's a way to avoid this thing: there's an option where you can send a payment request to the e-mail adress of your client (of course you client must give to you first) in this way you can ask the payment for "services" instead "product" and  such reclamations won't proceed since a service can't be refund. I never share my paypal account freely (that way nobody can "charge me" with unwanted payments and or reclamations)
In addition of this I have a business profile which protects my identity when ask a payment, sounds a bit paranoid but seems such precautions are needed.
Captain-John-Price Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2014  Professional General Artist
People use stolen credit cards on paypal then after they do the owner of the cards can charge back the money and it wil be removed from paypal.
(this is what mostly happens now)
UntamedIdealist Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014
It really is an unfair form of refunding that leaves digital sellers open for victimization. One of the problems I noticed reading journals from one of the victims is, despite all their evidence showing the transactions and how the recipient of the commission/adoptable did receive the "product" (I use quotes since while it is a product, it is not tangible enough for paypal apparently) it was not enough for paypal to let the artist keep the money they got from the sale. 

Basically, the artists need to get together to make paypal understand their situation and implement a new rule thing that will protect both buyer and artist of digital products so that something like this does not happen again. 
Flying-Red-Panda Featured By Owner Edited Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist
Basically person A commissions Artist B
Person A sends money, then files a claim saying they never received the product in question (even though they did)
Paypal then takes the money person A gave to Artist B, and puts it back into Person A's account

they basically get "refunded"
CandiPhoenixes Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Basically a person who commissions you pays you the amount asked for the commissions. They then proceed to claim they never got the said item to Paypal or the site they paid the commission at. At that point, the site forcibly takes the money they paid you and pays back the person who commissioned said piece plus a little extra for transacting fees.

It's sadly just another version of what most people consider "Indian-Giving".
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