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Star Trek Discovery by Inspector97 Star Trek Discovery by Inspector97
I just saw the trailer for the new show.... STAR TREK DISCOVERY. It's very well produced, it very pretty, but sadly as a fan of TOS will likely feel great trepidation about this show.

My issues with it:

The Klingons
The Ship
The Ship's Uniforms
M'Ress: NO CAITIANS STILL!

and that's all because it's supposed to exist in the same time line as Star Trek TOS and ten years before Kirk's era.

Oh and this is a bit late for the 50th CBS  All You Did for the 50th: Tribute to CBS/Paramount by Inspector97
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tmp999 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2017
If they fix the CAITIANS, or just throw in the Kzin, all would be forgiven.
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KaijuDuke Featured By Owner Edited Jun 2, 2017
XD, nice work, maybe CBS should consider an animated series, maybe then we'll FINALLY get some Caitians (or at least all four founding Federation races on one ship).

As for the trailer....Eh....I've been trying to remain cautiously optimistic about this new series, cuz God knows we need a new Star Trek television show after all these years, BUT this trailer has me worried. It all looks very pretty and cinematic in scope, which I have no issue with, but it really looks more like part of the Kelvin timeline or an alternate universe rather than a prequel to TOS, from the interior of the ship to everyone's uniforms and what not...Would it have killed them to bring back the gold, blue, & red uniforms? This is ten years before Kirk's five year mission, shouldn't the outfits look more similar to the TOS uniforms by now? And WHY is the bridge of their ship so dark?! They need night vision goggles to operate that ship, or a crew of Remans lol

Also, the Klingons don't look like Klingons, they look like Krall from Star Trek Beyond, only less scaly. Its impressive makeup effects and body armor, but they don't look like any previous interpretation of Klingons we've had to date...And Klingons don't use sarcophagi either, the body is merely a shell for the spirit, once its gone the body is merely disposed of in whatever manner is most convenient. Also, the "Klingon tech" on the display looks WAY more advanced and elaborate than what we've seen before. 
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I couldn't agree more
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Yeah, be nice if they updated the designs while keeping the style.
Heck, Axanar was pulling that off.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 25, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know... I wish that CBS took a hint
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lockdown3333 Featured By Owner May 23, 2017
I'm with you folks, the klingons don't look like klingons, the uniforms and ships look too much like the ones on Enterprise, and it looks to much like the jjverse movies.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 23, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree
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AndronicusVII Featured By Owner May 22, 2017
The trailer didn't look terrible... but it didn't look great either.  It's not going to be enough to convince me to go with the CBS streaming service.  The big issue I have is that it feels a lot more like the recent movies than I'd like.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 22, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree
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AndronicusVII Featured By Owner May 22, 2017
Some behind the scenes news gets me worried too.
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KaijuDuke Featured By Owner May 31, 2017
What did you hear about behind the scenes of Star Trek Discovery?
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AndronicusVII Featured By Owner May 31, 2017
Many delays, and rumors of talent behind the scenes having conflicts.  I don't have much that is substantial I will admit.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 22, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Indeed
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legomaximus Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It gives me conniptions. Not exactly. But the uniforms are a bit strange. Not just that but no U.S.S. Discovery in that trailer... e_e
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Match25 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
shes a cutie
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Cheetaur Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
Lens flare....eek
Plus..its only going to be on a streaming network...sigh
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
and Netflix I'm told
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kaisernathan1701 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
At Least we have the comics and novels still for Pre JJ Abrams Star Trek :)
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I gave up reading those. One book the Enterprise explodes.... the next all is ok.... the lack of continuity made me give up
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kaisernathan1701 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
ahh ok ^_^;
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Sailmaster-Seion Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
From what I've been hearing about the pre-production of Discovery, the biggest problem is that they have too many people, some of whom are not writers or know anything about Star Trek or Sci-Fi in general are making creative decisions and bigfooting the guys who actually are writers and know much about Star Trek.  Characters are being created based on superficial details rather than their personality traits.  Things are being designed based on what looks "kewl" rather than what looks like it belongs in the series.  Storylines will likely be done to be more like every other drama on TV rather than letting Star Trek be Star Trek. It'll probably be what kills this series in the end.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Maybe.... bring back Axanar
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EarlAllison Featured By Owner May 19, 2017
Never.  They will NEVER admit that a fan-based production did Trek better than they did.

I loved what I saw of Axanar, and I wish that was the direction they were taking.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 19, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think Discovery is going to do the Axanar conflict
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Bairactar Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
What do you call it that I didn't even think about the fact that there were no Caitians? I mean, I didn't even expect it, so I didn't notice. Did I expect anything from this show? I mean it's obvious to me that someone at CBS looked it up and saw that Star Trek's 50th year was three quarters over and said 'We should at least announce something'.

I went through the trailer again and noticed something else. Every shot with crew that is not on the bridge shows only humans. And I didn't see any species I know from the classic series. With the series playing 10 years before Kirk we knew the technology would look more modern that the classic Enterprise, but with all these special effects, all these gadgets, there wasn't money for a few more aliens aside from the bridge crew?

By the looks of te trailer the Discovery will discover... a conflict with the Klingons. What else? I mean what else does the Universe has to offer aside from Klingons?

As I'm already rambling, "I sense the coming of death"? That sounds more like the Force than any psionic ability we heard of. Unless of course he can feel the future.

I really have to stop thinking about this
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BalloonPrincess Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
Honestly, I haven't been too impressed with Star Trek since DS9 ... Voyager seemed to be ok as did Enterprise, though at least there was some exploring going on.  Outside of that ... meh.
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Bairactar Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
What frustrates me is that it's so easy sometimes to make it better. I mean the episodes. A thought-through story would be nice, but that would be a miracle. No, a few small changes that wouldn't even affect the budget.

As for the exploring...
About a year ago we got a German Star Trek trilogy (they even advertised it that way) and the fool I am fell for it and bought the first novel. Pretty much at the beginning a character in the book laments about them not being explorers anymore and what is the story about? I have no real idea as I didn't buy the other two, but it looked like some kind of conflict and not exploration.
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BalloonPrincess Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
I've been worried about this for years, but I often get shouted down by the younger generation who likes the new, flashy, and more less story in film and TV these days.  While I appreciated the newer special effects of the Star Trek: The Original Series which was done a while back, outside of what I have seen in The Next Generation and Deep Space 9, I haven't been too impressed.  See, I'm one of those who can push aside the special effects and think about AND appreciate a good story.  That is something they have gotten away from, especially with the new Star Trek movies ... I understand the reboot, but the first two movies were pretty good, not spectacular.  Now, the third one was at least something very new and different which made people appreciate it more.  And believe you me ... I am NOT a fan of JJ Abrams.  I did not like what he's done to Transformers.  Not at all.

I don't mind the conflicts and such, but when they start out with:

"Space, the final frontier.  These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise.  Her five year mission (Or her ongoing mission) is to explore new worlds, to seek out new forms and new civilizations.  To boldly go where no man (or no one) has gone before."

Now, according to the new movies, it's called the Captain's Oath, which I thought was curious.  But, it talks about exploration and not fighting, not conquest, and not destroying those who don't agree with you.  :)
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Bairactar Featured By Owner May 19, 2017
I feel with you. Many simply don't understand what Star Trek should be about. Or should I say has been about?

The really sad thing? J. Michael Straczynski and Bryce Zabel did a propsal for the reboot of Star Trek in 2004. Sadly the original pdf of it seems to have vanished, but I found the text in a forum:
forums.spacebattles.com/thread…
It looks like they used some parts of it for the reboot movie, but missed the important parts for Star Trek.
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BalloonPrincess Featured By Owner May 19, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
Thanks.  For me, the movies have a great potential, but they seemed like they wanted to get the fans ... and at the same time say, "We're doing what we want anyways.  So like it."  I had a few problems with the design of the star ships and the way there were some details that felt wrong.  "But, it's a reboot!" I kept on getting shouted at by the newer fans.  To me, it just was enough to be distracting.  Now, I liked the new cast and it was fun, I'll say that.  But overall, I felt it wasn't exactly Star Trek ...
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paws4thot Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
Part of the problem there is that you just don't get authors of the standing of Harlan Ellison and Theodore Sturgeon writing for Tv shows any more. Instead you get "writers' rooms" (like in 30 Rock).
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Bairactar Featured By Owner May 19, 2017
You also need a studio that dares to do something untested.
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paws4thot Featured By Owner May 19, 2017
True - The last episode of any form of Star Trek that I'd describe as "science fiction" was the strongly polarising Darmok.
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SlaveLynnGreen Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
Uniforms looked really nice from what I saw.  But they don't look like the ones in either TOS pilot.
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's sorta my point. The real problem is the insignia.... in TOS each starship had  it's own. Not till after Kirk's 5 year mission did star fleet adopt the insignia for the entire fleet
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SlaveLynnGreen Featured By Owner May 19, 2017
I'd forgotten that detail, but then I haven't actually bothered to watch the trailer.  I'm working from promo pics from a month or so back.  Ughh!
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 19, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, I see
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LegionaireB Featured By Owner May 17, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, those Klingons look weird.  Like a half-breed between true Klingons and Remans.

Is this going to be Prime or Alternate?
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 18, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
They have said Prime.....but it's hard to see that with this trailer
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Bairactar Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
With the rumours of the next movie erasing the 'Kelvin Timeline', who knows. If they do that, maybe we should ask the ticket price back, after all, the movies didn't happen, right? :D (Big Grin) 
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Zeonista Featured By Owner May 17, 2017
One of these days, M'Ress, one of these days.... 
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Joybuzzer Featured By Owner May 17, 2017
Well, the new ST movies show that the klingons no longer look human in the TOS era of ST, even though it was explained they did in DS9, when before that, I always just thought "They always looked like movie versions, TOS just had a lousy budget :p"

What this says to me is, while I personally enjoy the movies and loved loved loved that they weren't all listening to classical music anymore, that the new show will some how suck and listen to classic again! :p
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Roguewing Featured By Owner May 17, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This series has me very very worried
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 17, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Me to
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Best-Lil-Arthouse Featured By Owner May 17, 2017
There's always Seth Macfarlane's parody, The Orville. Looks very Trekky.
As far as Discovery goes, I think the main problem is that storytelling has changed so much over the years. TV (as well as comics) used to be episodic - a complete story in one episode (or, in the case of comic books, 1 or 2 issues). Nowadays one story is d-r-a-g-g-e-d o-u-t to extreme lengths. The TV actors love this because there's plenty of time for each character to react to everything that happens, Meaning, they get to have many 'actorly moments' where they can display how well they can act in dramatic situations.  I predict Discovery will have 1 major storyline throughout the 15 episodes, giving the cast chances to react to every development in the plot. Instead of, you know, 'discovering' the universe like the earlier TV shows.
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WDCain Featured By Owner May 18, 2017
I've got a love/hate vibe with Seth.  He can do great and creative work but so often he falls into the trap of relying on shock moments as entertainment and that's not enough to sustain an audience.  I'm hoping The Orville works because it looks to be the best Trek parody since Airplane 2.
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WDCain Featured By Owner May 17, 2017
I just hope Discovery retcons Enterprise out of existence.  I'm soft on Voyager.  At worst, it's just dumb schlock.  Enterprise was dumb schlock at BEST and offensive at worst until season 4.  Seriously, I would just retcon it to reveal that seasons 1-2 were all made-up holodeck shows.

Lordy, now I know how haters of the Star Wars Prequels feel.
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KaijuDuke Featured By Owner May 29, 2017
I'd love it if they retconned Enterprise out of existence too, it was so dumb, and blatantly ignored the continuity of TOS, the it was supposed to be a prequel to, as well as TNG and onwards. Its like the writers of Enterprise had never even watched a single episode of Star Trek >_<

To me DS9 was the last truly great Star Trek series, Voyager had a great premise but was cursed with bad writing and bad characters, I find myself wishing it would be retconned too so they could reuse the basic premise of a Starfleet vessel lost in the Delta Quadrant trying to find its way home, minus the dumb schlock. I also get the feeling the reason why we keep getting Star Trek prequels is because the writers don't know how to continue Star Trek past the end of Voyager, which is also unfortunate. I'd like to see them explore the aftermath of the Dominion War on top of going back to space exploration again.
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WDCain Featured By Owner May 29, 2017
I'm easy on Voyager since despite its bad writing, it does have a great cast of actors.  Tim Russ made a good Vulcan and when she was given good stuff to work with, Kate Mulgrew could really pull it off (though without a doubt Jeri Ryan and Robert Picardo were written the best consistently).

There is a lot of potential in a Post-Dominion War Trek show.  We really don't know what the shape of the Federation was by the end so it there's a lot to work with there.  One thing I love about the video game Star Wars KotOR 2: The Sith Lords was the key job of a light-side playthrough was fixing the gov't of each world and bringing back the stability lost after the war from the first game.  Following the exploits of a Starship that goes to ravaged Federation worlds and trying to make things right could easily fill out a season or two.  Heck, we never saw what Earth was like after the Breen attacked so maybe the entire planet was ravaged?

Plus it could show how the super-friendly Federation have to make due when in a resource struggle against the war weary Cardassians, Klingons, and Romulans; each trying to "settle" new worlds to gain their resources.  There's so much potential here and I am shocked that the Voyager execs thought keeping the show stuck in the monster-of-the-week Delta Quadrant was a better option (and this is coming from someone who likes Voyager).
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Inspector97 Featured By Owner May 17, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep
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