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??? [mc135f] - Wyrm Stage

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Dragon: ???
ID#: mc135f
Description: Machesri Light Red Female Wyrm
Bondmate: Gaylen
Adopter: EndaraMae ( Platinum Star Parent by indyana)
Mutations: Light color variant
Special Characteristics: Jade bangles
Clutch: Machesri Clutch 14: Wild

Notes: This little one is fiercely strong and has more wisdom than your average wyrm. There is a light and goodness that shines from her and makes others want to trust her.


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Machesri Female Egg (Current Version) by indyana

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Cyber-Cypher's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Impact

Aww! OvO I like how the worm-like creature had little spikes which make look spunky but still cute! ^ w ^

Here is a list of things you can improve on:

- The line art looks a bit too thick and it should more variety in width so that it would look more alive.

- Jut me being nitpicky here. The way the beaded bracelet is placed is kind of unnatural. One side would be top of that one spike while another side would be sliding down.

- The spacing of the spikes looks uneven. There's a wide gap where you could have added a spike.

Overall, your strongest points are that it looks adorable and the how you use neutral background which helps with the colors. Hope this helps! ^_^
indyana's avatar
Thanks again for writing a critique!

Someone else has made a similar comment about the lineart, so I'll work on toning it down a bit in the future.  The part about the bracelet is a good catch too!

Where did you think the spacing on the back spikes was too large?  I thought maybe I crowded them a bit on her back, honestly.
Cyber-Cypher's avatar
No, I mean the back of her head. The spacing felt uneven there. :) 
indyana's avatar
Okay, thanks again!  I'm feeling a bit rusty (been a while since I seriously did any art), and all the feedback helps. :)
Cyber-Cypher's avatar
You're very welcome! :)
Lethargea's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Impact

I think this is a pretty picture. The overall design is unique, it has strong originality. I like how the dragon has different shades of red and pink and not just on solid color, the colors blend really well together. The shading makes the dragon look 3D. The outlining is very good, it's not choppy nor rigid, it's nice and smooth. The technique is on point. I think it is interesting that the baby dragon has rings on its tail and horns, the color green was a good choice, it makes the image pop out a bit. Overall, I think this is an amazing drawing with its uniqueness and creativity.
indyana's avatar
Thank you very much for taking the time to post a critique!
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Summer-Rose-Ruby's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Impact

Okay so this cute but it could be so much better I think that as you go along the years you will become a fabulous artist and you could learn more techniques I also feel that there should be more emotions I also wish you well. I hope you will learn more as you go and won't ever give up I hope that your art becomes more and more unique as the years go by. I know other people might be rude and I hope that won't discourage you to become a fantastic artist.I hope this didn't offend you Indyana.
indyana's avatar
Thank you for taking time to critique.  Do you have any specific suggestions for what could use improvement or what you would like to see done differently?
Summer-Rose-Ruby's avatar
If I had to suggest I would say the textures and the colors
kikoeart's avatar

Hello! This is so cute! I love the face:D 

I think that depending on what you want I can give some different suggestions...If its supposed to be shiny: I would have upped the contrasts by adding highlights and shadows ...stronger ones, also the body is a little muddy at the moment - if you see where the bulgy parts are, its got light and dark smears which don't seem to be forming anything which makes it a bit messy...if you remove that and add very intentional lights and darks and mid-tones it would help make this feel more finished and 3d. 

Also the figure itself seems to be floating...I know you have a nice shadow but that's only showing the effect ON the environment - the dragon itself is not really effected by it. You could have the underbelly flatten out more to show the soft dragon smushing down onto the show the weight of it. Also the pattern would morph accordingly, you have that to an extent but it could be done more...I think it would completely disappear under him/her. 

The outline is very strong but it doesn't bother me cause this is a stylized some places you could tone it down, it will help make shapes look like they are not so flat. Then you could add a little more shadow to the green jewelry as it's very very bright now and a little separate feeling from the rest of the painting..just a thought. 

Finally if you want this to look more dragony...add scales! You don't have to put them everywhere, just where there is a transition between light and shadow...and a little in the light (not super highlighted places) for some reason this can look even cooler than actually drawing in every single scale - which would drive me insane :D

I think that's all I hope you get something out of these ideas:D!! Nice work!
indyana's avatar
Thanks for taking time to write some in-depth feedback.  I see what you mean about flattening out the underbelly; excellent point! Putting more shadows on the jade also would have helped match it up a bit more.  It's super bright, and at the time, I couldn't really figure out how to make it more cohesive with the dragon.

As for the body shading, I wasn't going for really shiny or scaly.  More like human skin, but a bit thicker?  The streaking was supposed to be showing her muscle structure and rib cage.  Ug, guess I didn't quite get where I wanted to go there!  Adding some microtexture/pores would probably help to make it less smooth?  If you have any further suggestions now that you know what I was /trying/ to do there, please let me know. ^_^;
kikoeart's avatar
You're welcome! I would consider studying what human skin looks like when it's being stretched over muscles and bones, then apply that in a slightly cartoonish style over your piece :) 

Digital art (as I'm learning too) is hard, there seems to be great areas of steep learning curves and sometimes you get to plateaus where you feel a little more comfortable but then it starts up again. So you know, I remember that and it helps :)

I would not get into texture until the very very end, and when you do use a separate layer! lol...

Basically i try to paint what the form is before refining the surface cause it doesn't matter what the surface looks like if the form is weird or off.

I hope that helps you out some :)

I mean I am such a beginner (check out my gallery if you like) so you can take what you like :) Just my little opinions!
indyana's avatar
Yes, I have a TON of layers when I'm working, haha.  Nothing worse than doing something and then not being able to undo it.

Thanks again for the feedback.  It really helps having someone else give their impressions!
kikoeart's avatar
Yeah, I know! You have to learn that the hard way. 

You're very welcome:D
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Liibbyie's avatar
Hello there dear! I'm here from :iconprojectcomment:, here at your service to give you a review, haha!

First things first, you did an awesome job on this! It definitely catch my eye on the group page! Alrighty, let's get started!

• The design of this piece is very simplistic and really shows off the 3D effect the coloring gives to it, making it almost look like a inanimate object. I'm really liking the bangles and beads you placed on it, the shading is especially well done on those little accessories and they look like glass. Shadowing underneath matches up well, and I've got to say, there's close to nothing inaccurate via art in this piece. The shading on the Bishel dragon shows the areas where the light hits very well, though there isn't much dark areas, but I'm assuming that's because you wanted it to seem as if in a bright room and give it a softer look.

• While I'd hate to say it, the first thing I saw were the thicker lines. While they blend in well with the coloring of the dragon, I'd probably make them a tad bit thinner, the thinner the lines the more realistic and three-dimensional the picture will look, while the thicker lines can cause picture to look more simple or even toonish. Its expression is really sweet, I love the serenity of it and it reminds me of a sleeping baby :heart:
The scales are probably the least detailed area of this picture, the thick lines defined in it more than the darker torso areas, and they don't have the same "shine" effect as the rest of the body.

Honestly, that's all I could get out of this one. The icy ire was really nicely done, and barely needed any criticism whatsoever. That's a really good sign! You're doing awesome, keep it up! :hug:
indyana's avatar
Thanks so much for taking time to critique!

I'll admit that the cartoons lines have always been my thing, but maybe my art is outgrowing them. I'll try some thinner line art on my next piece.

As for the scales, they are supposed to be thicker and more leathery than the rest of her skin, which is why I turned down the shine factor. Do you have any ideas for how to make the texture difference more clear, so it doesn't just look like I got lazy?
Summer-Rose-Ruby's avatar
Awwwwwe how cuteHamtaro Mouse Emoji-02 (Kawaii) [V1] Sansynyan~! Heart Love 
indyana's avatar
Thank you so much for faving her!Thanks For the Fav {Free Use} 
ixris's avatar
The detail you managed in her facial structure is SUPER BEAUTIFUL!  She is an EXCELLENT color besides!  :)  Well done!
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