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Some Christians these days have quietly let the story of Noah and the global flood fall into the realm of 'allegorical stories' as modern understanding of biology and geology have progressed (even though biblical genealogy assures us everyone descended through Noah). Others try and postulate that the 'world' was really 'Noah's known world' even though the bible never indicates that.

But there are still many hold outs, 60% of Americans according to ABC News, who still believe that flood waters covered the literal Earth. Plunging every mountaintop beneath water.

This is one of the most amusing and incredulous of the bible stories, with so many parts that fly in the face of modern science.

Here's a list of some of the things a global flood would do to our world:
:bulletblue: All coral in the world would go extinct. A global flood would exponentially increase the amount of water pressure on the delicate skeletons of the coral, dashing them to pieces. Even if it didn't, the PH, salinity and temperature changes would be enough to do the same.
:bulletblue: The oceanic currents would be destroyed, and the food chain with it. Without the normal currents, plankton would not have their migratory current. They and their predators (such as coral, krill and filtering whales) would not be able to find food and starve.
:bulletblue: Land fertility would be destroyed. Unlike freshwater streams, oceanic flooding is very destructive to soil. The topsoil would be peeled off and scattered, and the lower strata would be saturated with salt. Noah and his family would not have been able to grow anything after landfall. What plants weren't uprooted with the dissolving of the topsoil would die in short order.
:bulletblue: Tides would be destroyed, which would effect the wobble and rotation speed of the Earth.
:bulletblue: There is nowhere for the water to go. Even if it managed to slip a mile or two beneath the Earth, the sheer amount of heat would cause it to rapidly vaporize. This would have the net effect of poaching the surface like one big egg.

This is besides the problems of Noah's ark, animal, food and excrement housing in of itself.

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Dajour02 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nowhere has it ever said it was a world Wide flood. God said he was going to flood this world. That doesn't explicitly mean he's flooding the entire planet
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Spoopaws Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
If there was a global flood none of the species Earth had before this "happened" would be here.
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EmmetEarwax Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, flooding the earth to rid it of sinful humans is like burning a barn down to rid it of rats.

God would have sent an epidemic of sterility or a species-specific disease, instead.

Even in 1856 the publication date of one of my bible dictionaries , the author questioned the idea of a global flood, and even supported Higher Criticism that Moses did NOT write the opening books. (If he even ever existed !).
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PearlJelly Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2018
It was a metaphorical flood
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DandyBandi Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I honestly found the story very disturbing as well, if god loved everyone so much why would he kill every living thing? I was shocked as a younger child when I learned of this in sunday school even when I was just 9 I knew there was no way that could be right. How could every single living thing, even animals, have sinned so badly that God would murder them like that? 
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paleosir Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This so much.
Aronra has done a very comprehensive debunking series of Noah's flood. It's literally impossible.
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DollaWolla Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
In one bible class I remember, that talked about Noah, the teacher reminded us that the Flood came BEFORE the Towel of Babel (where God confused the people's language so they'll spread out across the earth as he wanted), therefore it couldn't have been a global flood anyway, but rather a "local" one. However I greatly appreciate you giving some scientifically accurate facts of what such global flood would do.
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Green-Tea-Flower Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2016  Student General Artist
It's been scientifically proven that there's not enough water on Earth to "Cover the literal Earth. Plunging every mountaintop beneath water."
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TheArtFrog Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2016  Student General Artist
There was a massive flood sometime a few thousand years ago near the whole black sea region according to some archaeological research, so perhaps that's what the Bible's tale of Noah is based on.

But ultimately, it would be impossible for a worldwide flood to have happened, and still is to this day impossible. Even rising sea levels from global warming can go so far.
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MihTimak Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2016
Of course there was not! See my polemics with :iconjustinjamal: here:
comments.deviantart.com/1/4805…
And if you want and can, then help me, please.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016
So now youre going to send people after me
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MihTimak Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2016
I am not so proud to say: "Do not touch him, he is my personal enemy, I want to make him harmless myself".
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
I dont have people helping me debate
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MihTimak Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2016
Well, I cannot say that I need help, but why shall I refuse from it?

Once I have read a Vietnamese folk-tale "How a Frog became the Master of the Heaven". Of course, I have read it in my native Russian language, but here is my home-made translation into English.

It was in those far times when there were no people on the Earth, but only animals. A terrible drought happened on the Earth; all animals suffered badly, and many of them even died. And at last one Frog said to other frogs:
- I want to go to the Heaven and demand rain! Does anybody want to join me?
- But the Heaven is so high!
- Any route has its beginning and its end.
- But God will get angry and kill us all!
- But we are already dying, the things cannot be worse than now! We are small, but we are strong with our uprightness! God domineers only cowards and is afraid of daredevils!
Many frogs joined their leader, and they went to the Heaven. And many other animals asked the Frog:
- May we join you too?
- Of course yes! The greater will be our army, the better!
Even tigers and bears joined this army, though at first they said:
- We are too big to follow a small frog.
- You are big, but I am braver than you. I do not force anyone to join me.
Big animals got ashamed and also joined the army.
And when this army came to the gates of the Heaven and knocked, the angry God sent all his army, all angels and archangels, but they were defeated, and many of them were even killed. The winning hit was made by a great cluster of bees who stung their opponents.
The God, trembling with fear, heard the Frog's voice: "Oh God, please come to see us!" And the word "please" told him that they are not going to kill him. The god went out of his palace and asked:
- What do you want?
- You see, there is a terrible drought, we all are suffering badly. Is it possible to send a rain?
- Yes, of course! - and God sent a rain.
- And if another drought will happen, must we come here once more?
- Oh no! It will be enough for you to croak, and I shall send a new rain.
And since then, soon after the frog's croaking, the rain begins.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2016
So you bring up a vietnams folks tale? Tell us how this helps your point on disproving the bible
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MihTimak Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2016
No, one tale (Vietnamese) cannot disprove another tale (the Bible), but the former at least shows us how good is it to be brave and not to be afraid of anyone, even of the god.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2016
Your proof.
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Hates-olives Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2016
Your beliefs, it was never 100% certain that it didn't happen.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2016
It's not 100% certain humanity wasn't licked from the ice by a divine cow's tongue. But I'm about as certain a global flood didn't happen as I am certain this didn't. 
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016
Scientists discver a ton of water underneath the ocean said to fill the oceans.



www.extremetech.com/extreme/18…
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016
I've talked about this with other users before. The cliffnotes is that water, as the article explains, is trapped in a severe pressure mineral and the water is inofitself mineralized. It would take volcanic activity so huge that the release of that water onto the Earth would have boiled the sea and cooked Noah and his animals to death, that is, if the concussive force of that much exploding mantle rock didn't kill them first. 

More importantly though, you would have to fill the oceans close to six times times over to cover the highest points on Earth. And even the highest estimate of ringwoodite trapped water wouldn't do the job. 

There's other reasons why a global flood is not supported by the evidence biologically and geologically discussed elsewhere in the comments and original comments too. 
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016
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I've talked about this with other users before. The cliffnotes is that water, as the article explains, is trapped in a severe pressure mineral and the water is inofitself mineralized. It would take volcanic activity so huge that the release of that water onto the Earth would have boiled the sea and cooked Noah and his animals to death, that is, if the concussive force of that much exploding mantle rock didn't kill them first. 

More importantly though, you would have to fill the oceans close to six times times over to cover the highest points on Earth. And even the highest estimate of ringwoodite trapped water wouldn't do the job. 



From the article,


With all that said, there could be massive repercussions if this study’s findings are accurate. Even if the ringwoodite only contains around 2.6% water, the volume of the transition zone means this underground reservoir could contain enough water to re-fill our oceans three times over. I’m not saying that this gives us the perfect excuse tocontinue our abuse of Earth’s fresh water reserves, but it’s definitely something to mull over. This would also seem to discount the prevailing theory that our surface water arrived on Earth  said that if the water wasn’t stored underground, “it would be on the surface of the Earth, and mountaintops would be the only land poking out.” dont forget that it wlso rwined on the earth for forty days and forty nights. Remeber that in our current time and era, this may not be enough to cover our mountains since the mountains were much ahem, much shorter in the past. But it does definitely prove a global flood had to taken place, christians dont believe that the continents were placed as how they are today in the past. We understand that God had created a single landmass before it broke up
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2016
Let me first put to rest the idea that humans ever lived on a super-continent. Humans came about long after the last super-continent, pangea, and pangea wasn't even the first super-continent (there's been several). At no point was the super-continents flat, as tectonic fault lines were not the only cause of mountain features, and faults still existed under the existing super-continent landmass. Plus, the bible story talks about an existing mountain range which has not changed much since the first humans (Ararat). Ararat is fairly small but still big enough that no amount of water we have access to would cover it. (And even with the ringwoodite water there would have been MILES of other mountain ranges visible. Easily inhabitable by other people) And no, this article and no scientific source ever has suggested that all the water was on the surface of the Earth. Rather that it was in the crust and released SOME of it during the volcanic (and toxic to life, there was no life during this period). Again, any attempt to release the ringwoodite trapped water would have killed Noah and the entire boat. And it wouldn't have gone back down either. Water can't reach the subduction zone from the surface to be trapped again, because it's too hot. It would be poached back to the surface.
So really, this is still an impossible situation.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
Let me first put to rest the idea that humans ever lived on a super-continent. Humans came about long after the last super-continent, pangea, and pangea wasn't even the first super-continent (there's been several). At no point was the super-continents flat, as tectonic fault lines were not the only cause of mountain features, and faults still existed under the existing super-continent landmass. Plus, the bible story talks about an existing mountain range which has not changed much since the first humans (Ararat). Ararat is fairly small but still big enough that no amount of water we have access to would cover it. (And even with the ringwoodite water there would have been MILES of other mountain ranges visible. Easily inhabitable by other people) And no, this article and no scientific source ever has suggested that all the water was on the surface of the Earth. Rather that it was in the crust and released SOME of it during the volcanic (and toxic to life, there was no life during this period). Again, any attempt to release the ringwoodite trapped water would have killed Noah and the entire boat. And it wouldn't have gone back down either. Water can't reach the subduction zone from the surface to be trapped again, because it's too hot. It would be poached back to the surface.







Your evidence to back up this statement?
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
There's a lot of statements, and most of this is common knowledge. Is there something in particular you have a clarifying question about?
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Green-Tea-Flower Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016  Student General Artist
:iconyellplz::iconsaysplz: Were you there to witness the Big Bang!? If you weren't it didn't happen!!"
:icongreen-tea-flower::iconsaysplz: Were you there to witness God shaping Adam from Dirt, and Eve from Adam's Rib? If you weren't it didn't happen!!"
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wakaflockaflame1 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Either way, both sides just act like screaming children...
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DOTB18 Featured By Owner May 8, 2016
"Welcome to the wonderful world of stupid. You can be stupid, and I can be stupid, but I'm winning because I'm only pretending to be stupid while you're the one getting mad."
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wakaflockaflame1 Featured By Owner May 8, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not mad tho...sooooo.
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terrafinrules Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2016
*Tips fedora*
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2016
I would tip a pope hat back, as it's the only hat I can think of encompassing allowing confirmation bias driven debate instead of owning up to when factual observation contradicts traditionally held beliefs, but even the Catholics have formally recognized a global flood as silly and nonsensical. 
And I probably still wouldn't do it, because using media memetic generalizations to dismiss arguments is lame ad hominem stuff. 
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Jaguar24 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
The fuck are people gonna say next?
"There was no Ice Age"?
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2016
Depending on how you define ice age (continental ice sheets vs heavy glaciation with no interglacial periods) then we could be said to still be in an ice age. Ice ages are fairly commonplace and have happened multiple times in Earth's history.
There's never been a time, however, that the whole world was covered in water. 
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Jaguar24 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Essentially, yes. I do recall watching something that talked about earth flooding (its called How to Survive the end of the World).
They said the only way Earth can get more water is if something from space that has water brings it to earth
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Listen, although your points are good, I got to say this. If you look at the topography of the world you can tell that it has the shape of something big and disastrous. They found some dirt that only exists in the grand canyon in mountains far away. There are fish skeletons on top of mountains. 
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magshi Featured By Owner Edited May 13, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Really?

The Topography of the world shows the results of tectonic movement and volcanic activity, not a worldwide flood, everyone
knows this. The dirt you describe is inconclusive evidence, the most likely case here is that this dirt you describe as being from
the grand canyon area is also present in those mountains because the Colorado rivers source is in those mountains, so it would
make sense for the same kind of dirt to be in the grand canyon.

Come on now, really? Using fossils found in mountains as evidence? Do you NOT know how mountains are made? The fossils
found in mountains were NOT always there, they were uplifted along with the various rock layers they were found in when
the mountains were formed, even elementary school kids know this.

Sorry to say, there is NO evidence of a worldwide flood. You're grasping at straws here, just save us both the trouble and admit
that a worldwide flood could not have happened, there is no record of it in the rock layers, and there is no record of it in the
fossil record.
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AcitorianScoria Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015  Student Writer
Maybe that is because in the Grand Canyon there is a river called the Colorado River. This means it came from Colorado.
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
the dirt i'm talking about did not come from Colorado as far as i know.
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AcitorianScoria Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2016  Student Writer
Okay, being this was a long time ago, my grasp on things have gotten more... complete.

But I'm not gonna be an dick an now respond just because "I love control of my feels".

You are being incredibly calm with this. You are an awesome human being to not writhe in our human agony. I'll just say, you can do whatever the hell you want just don't be a douche about it. And I'm not saying that you did this. So with this I shall bid thy farewell.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2015
There have been floods before. Lots of them. Anywhere with bodies of water are prone to floods. But no single world flood event. The Grand Canyon has soil in a mountain far away because mountain originated streams that cut the Grand Canyon carried the soil to the Grand Canyon FROM the mountains. And fish skeletons are on mountains because mountains grew out of sea beds and brought fossils with them to the summit as they grew. 
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Linkzilla Featured By Owner May 30, 2015
Not to mention the light filtration, water pressure, and salt water mixing with fresh water caused by the flood would've basically wiped out all aquatic life. And if a global flood covered EVERY mountain on the earth by - according to the bible - a depth of twenty feet, then that would put the surface of the water twenty feet ABOVE Mt. Everest; meaning that a majority of animals aboard Noah's Ark would've froze to death, and those that didn't due to their adaptation to cold, would've suffocated from the lack of oxygen in the atmosphere.
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AriaGrill Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
DERR NOT OF THAT WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE,,, BIBLE AND JESAS!!!!
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TheDreamVista Featured By Owner Edited Feb 3, 2015  Student General Artist
You're barely close.
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lichohell Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015
can i just say, i love the comments more then the stamp-
;v; nice job on it though (can't make 'em for the life of me)
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014
Even to this day people believe we came from dirt
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How do you know there was no global flood? Were you alive back then? There couldve been one for all you know Haha pluss did you know nearly every culture all over the world says there was a global flood and some family only survived it and they had to repopulate the earth dont you think thats somewhat odd?
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magshi Featured By Owner May 13, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Its called the fossil and geologic records, both of which accurately show us the history of this earth,
and you will find ZERO evidence of a flood in both records.

As for the shared flood mythos, NOT every cultural flood story is a reference to noah, plus that is mythology,
there is no evidence for those stories either.
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner May 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
The fossil record doesn't exsist it's a bunch of bones they found in dirt that show and prove nothing all it proves is that it was ounce living and now is dead that's all nothing less nothing more.

Nevermind it's okay belive what you want to, I'm sure your very educated on every culture and all methodology...although if there's no evidence why have they found aquatic animals or fishes on mountains sea life...but it's okay I don't feel like arguing so have yourself a good little day, or um something...
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magshi Featured By Owner May 23, 2016  Student Digital Artist
And you've proven just how little you know about fossils. It's so amusing to watch creationists try to talk about things they don't understand.
Fossils aren't just "bones they found in dirt", Fossils are things that were once organic (like dino bones or ancient plants) but were transformed
into rock as minerals replaced organic material. Also, to claim the fossil record doesn't exist is a VERY bold assertion, however it is also nothing but
a lie. Even other creationists like Ken ham acknowledge the fossil record exists, the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the existence of the fossil
record shows that you are even more ignorant than some of the most ignorant people on earth.

There IS a reason why we find fossils of sea life on mountains, its called mountain building. Yeah, the mountains didn't just poof into existence,
they were raised, uplifted by tectonic forces. Mountains form when two tectonic plates smash together, the resulting collision causes the rock layers
of the plates to crumple up, to fold up if you will, and any fossils in those rock layers are heaved up with them. And that is why you can find fossils
of sea life in mountains.

For the record, you don't understand science, you just don't. So please stop trying to argue against something you don't understand.
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