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Das Boot by Hydrothrax Das Boot by Hydrothrax
Type VIIC doodled up after having a cool convo about U-boots, they Type XXI and other related stuff with one of the tank people over on Tumblr :U 

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watcher25 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
that one is scary....
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Flaming-Lambo Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I prefer this style of sub to the modern boats that looks like giant, matte-black dildos. This still resembles a ship of sorts. :3
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I like them all for various reasons, from their history to their tech. I agree though that the old-school U-Boot has a really sweet aesthetic. They actually were more like ships until the Type XXI was built - U-boots ran faster above water and would do so, diving only when they had to (sneaking up for an attack or escape.) They could not run long underwater, the XXI was the first submarine designed for long periods of submerged operation. Modern subs are the opposite - clumsy and unstable on the surface, fast and silent underwater. The function of the post-WWII submarine became a very different one once the whole concept of nuclear deterrence became a primary focus. There's lot of interesting stuff about subs!! :D
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Flaming-Lambo Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I knoooooow. One of the guys I dated in high school became a nuclear technician. Too bad he's too busy for me to talk to him much these days. He's not on a boat anymore, he's a recruiter. Still, that means precious little spare time. 
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Oh whoa that's super cool! It takes a very specific type of person to be a submariner. On top of the tech, the stories of the people themselves is extremely interesting (I got to visit a Tango-class this summer and learned some really crazy stuff about the Russian submariner during the Cold War.

Do you know what particular boat he was on? 
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Flaming-Lambo Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No, I don't know exactly which boat he was on. Like I said we don't talk much..in fact, we don't talk at all anymore. Being in contact with guys you've dated tends to...upset the resident male. 
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Ohhh duh I should have thought of that :'D (I don't date so sometimes I don't think of obvious stuff like that right off the bat haha!) At any rate, that's still cool :U
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Flaming-Lambo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally understand, lol. And really, ex or not, I'm fricking proud of the guy. :D
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eightyjet Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Question: Do these guys have gills, or are they like whales? 
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
They're completely mechanical. Meaning they have all mechanical functionality of their non-sentient counterpart - consider them to be pretty much robots but highly complex with quite a bit of biomimicry mixed in. (I don't do the organic living machine thing, although I'll give them "animal" traits sometimes like the eyes for the stylized/cartoon versions like this one.)

As for the fish versus whale thing, you could say all diesel-powered subs are more like whales (have to surface to recharge their batteries) while the nuclear-powered subs are the true sharks of the sea, and will run as long as they still have nuclear fuel - that an be up to 20 years it depends on the submarine. (For pretty much all nuclear submarines on there, the only limiting factor is the crew/the fact that they have to store food. A submarine is at the level of a spaceship when it comes to engineering. Oxygen is generated from the electrolysis of  water and fresh water can be produces onboard too.)

That's pretty much why submarines are probably one of my favorite vehicles on the planet - the pure engineering behind these things is nuts and I love it. :P
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eightyjet Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting concept, 95% of the living machine community has gone with a semi-biological approach. He'res to living machines without the fleshy bits! 
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Haha yes! I used to go with a more literal "bio-mechanical" mixture but over time I removed more and more of the biological component because it just doesn't work, especially when you get into larger vehicles (for example if you're going to use bone structures similar to an animal's, there is a limit to the size of the creature. Volume increases by a cubic factor and there is a certain point where an animal would not be able to support its own weight.) And there are just so many problems like the weight and density of flesh, it's very heavy (being water-based) so making a "living" airplane out of the same components as an animal, it would never work (the sheer wingspan you'd need to lift an organic creature of the same dimensions as something like a Boeing 737 would be absolutely ridiculous and very likely the wings couldn't' support themselves either. I'll avoid getting too techy because that will get LONG but I'll just say physics and mechanical limits!) Etc etc I can go on forever about how impractical it is to mimic vehicles organically (if you're staying within conventional organic structures, that is.) I mean it's totally fine for a fantasy world (who doesn't love giant monsters) but I prefer a certain degree of technical thought to be put into a creature design - if you were to make an organic vehicle, you'd have to get pretty creative with the structural stuff (which would actually be a fun sort of design exploration, maybe I'll play with it sometime - it'd defiantly look very different than a mechanical vehicle though) but most people won't go further than to just draw animal features on a plane and call it a day. I'm not going to say that any concept is superior because people draw for different reasons but I definitely have my own preferences!

Wooo!!
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eightyjet Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I couldn't agree more! The concept of an entirely biological aircraft is entirely outlandish, not only because of size, but because if it were entirely biological there would be so structural system capable of mimicking a turbine, so it probably couldn't fly with fixed wings, so the structure would be entirely different if you wanted it to be capable of flight. Most people have gone with bio-mechanical, but where should the biological end and the mechanical begin? People don't often consider how a brain and a full sized cockpit fit in the same plane. The one that really cracks me up though are biological space shuttles. No one seems to consider that space is a vacuum, and that lungs won't work. Or if you really want to turn your nose up at a semi biological concept, just try to imagine how the evolution would work. I guess you can't say which living vehicle concept is best, but I think an entirely mechanical approach makes the most scientific sense.
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SwarmCreator Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Das Boot VS Die Welle! ;)

I like the monster-like design, combined with our technical constructions. :P
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Hydrothrax Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Hehhehe! Thanks!
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LightningCato Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Professional General Artist
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUB x3
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GreenSunWolf Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That smile ~<3
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