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Real quick before I go on my little spiel here:
  1. This is spoiler stuff for My Little Pony G5. If you don't want to spoil yourself over possible changes to the series, I understand. Please ignore this if you don't want to see it.
  2. I'm not racist. I need to say this upfront because there are many, many, many people that want to raise a ruckus over skin color. I'm not against the casting choices that Meghan McCarthy and her team makes.
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1515461088459 by herooftime1000
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These are a couple emails that were leaked to 4chan after someone hacked their accounts. Hasbro seriously needs to work on their online security measures.

I want you to pay attention to this, because this is the workings of the death of a character. I see this lazy, forced diversity crap way, way too often as of late in American media. Companies like Marvel, DC, Hasbro, and more are too scared to be labeled by the minority of America's population that virtue signal (and in some extreme cases, riot) as bigots, racists, sexists, Nazis, your buzzword here. So, what do they do? The do the laziest damn thing in terms of creativity and story telling: they take a pre-existing character, and change the hell out of it to be more inclusive. 

I'm not offended that Hasbro wants to make an urban pony that comes from the bad side of town. Far from it. I think that's a wonderful idea and having someone like Tiffany Haddish voice her is a lot of fun.

I'm offended because an already well established character has to die for the sake of social justice. Applejack, it's your turn for the noose.

Applejack in G4 is already a great character. She values family ties, hard work, honesty, and helping those that need it without a second thought. She's honestly my favorite of the 6, and her ideals reflect on mine as a Christian: Love thy neighbor as you love yourself. Unfortunately, some of the staff behind the show is dedicated to make her less "hick-ish" and sprinkle some forced diversity in the mix. They want to rewrite her as someone completely different a good one year after G4's finale, while our memory of her is still fresh in our minds. I know that the show's team is very creative.  They've driven the fanbase to, time and again, inspire people to create characters and stories of their own in their universe. So, you can imagine how extremely lazy they are to take the main six and start from square one with new voices and personalities. 

If they took the premise of an urban pony and made it into a new, distinguishable character, I would be behind their creative drive 100%. As it stands, they are taking the lazy route and killing a character to fill an invisible quota. As an amateur game designer, that is more offensive to me than any of the trigger warnings SJWs flap their jaws about. 

R.I.P. G4 Applejack. 
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RaphLuna Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Im tired with people calling white people Privillaged... This Drives me Crazy, Im also Tired of the Colored people With their Black Lives Matter  I'm tired with the LTGBQ community having their pride prades. Im tired of the illegals coming to my home country demanding More than they are given. I'm tired with Hare Core Islamic Followers Crying everything Un-Islamic offends them, and must be changed. This is Exactally what Diversity does within all countries Divides us all. Unity is what makes us Strongest,when we put our differences aside us and come together in time of Disaster to help each other, Danger we all stand together as one to protect our country. We look out for each other to keep everyone safe.
In my eyes...
Diversity means division
unity means put difference aside to help each other out..

Hasbor care more about selling stuff. if the G5 shows are as sloppy as the Latest shows in the G4. People are going to bail on the The MLP Franchise..

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Bulldog90 Featured By Owner May 25, 2018
You think there is any chance they will rethink this idea given the fact that this leaked and it has received negative attention? Like you Applejack is my favorite and if they go through with this and leave everyone else recognizable it will scream pandering from a mile away. I really do hope they rethink this or that the community can convince them to. A benefit of the leak is that this is not finalized so I guess their still time to try to change their opinion if their is anyway to do so. I agree with most of what you said and hope that a better end result awaits Applejack
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner May 26, 2018
Probably, but I know the minds of major toy companies like Hasbro: Brands sell. Everyone knows Twilight and her friends, so they want to change them AND make them recognizable. So, something tells me they are going to stay the course, no matter what.
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Bulldog90 Featured By Owner May 26, 2018
I certainly can agree about companies doing what they want regardless of the public reaction. However, I am confused about your statement of recognizable. If they do to Applejack what is proposed she will not be recognizable. Even her design would not be recognizable. So outside of my confusion there your point is sound if depressing because not only would they be butchering my favorite character in the series I can imagine that this mindset will not make a very successful show. 
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner May 26, 2018
You have a very good point. Let's just hope that they have the foresight to give them similar, but different names for the Mane 6 in the "alternate mirror dimension".
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kingofswing617 Featured By Owner May 20, 2018
Can this actually be "diversity"? Its only the VA thats black, not the character
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner May 20, 2018
Again, the problem isn't that the voice actor is African American. It's the changing of personalities to a beloved character. Meghan McCarthy has gone on record that they plan to have "diversity" by making Applejack less "hickish". That's already a big red flag. Instead, they are making her an urban pony that grew up on the bad side of the streets. Unless we see evidence that says otherwise, something tells me that they are going to change Applejack's behavior and speech that fits her setting and actor. 

I would love for this to be a separate pony character. Alas, the team is too lazy to make new characters. Even though we came up with 6 diverse, fun characters this season.
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kingofswing617 Featured By Owner May 20, 2018
Ok i understand it better.
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ataru85 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2018
Here's my idea for a backstory if they actually do this.  It seems they're mixing human and pony worlds, so suppose Applejack was born in a human city.  She spends her days giving very slow cart or hay rides in a park.  Her whole life she dreamed of a wide open country where she could run free on real grass.  Whenever she talks like a country girl, Rarity reminds her that she's from the city.  Then whatever magical thing gets the plot going in episode one leads to to the realization of her dream.

Rarity would of course have to be coaxed into leaving the city.
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Eloralyn Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018
Ugh, This womans voice doesn't suit AJ!
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thedarkmink Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2018
this is why we need #altbrony 
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2018
Huh?
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DieselHedgehog96 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2018
Hasbro studios has done crossed the line!
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:icontheotakugamingbrony:
Wait, not only are they changing her design drastically, but they're making her urban with a black girl's voice!? What in the actual hell!?
I mean, there's no problem having a character like that. And there's no problem with a character having a black girl's voice, either.
The problem is that she's supposed to be Applejack! She's basically a different character! Not even a different representation, it's just a different character entirely. So why not Make her a different character? Why give her the name Applejack? I now have a bad feeling about this G5...
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2018
We all do. I really can't explain why they can't just make a new batch of characters instead of rehashing new ones.

The genie can't go back into the bottle, guys!
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adamlhumphreys Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2018  Professional General Artist
Very much agreed. Applejack is one of my top two characters! (tied with Rarity, unicorn Twilight being third and so-forth) If they're going to go through the trouble of making a new generation, which I understand from a marketing perspective, I think it would be in their best economic favor to make completely new characters, (or reuse all the old ones I suppose), than to single out one in particular as an insulting testimony to their following suit with the political correctness crowd.

Another problem is, unless they have some good writing and fix their workflow to sell toys through the merit of their characters rather than rewriting the characters to fit their toys, they could end up with a generation comparable to one of their past generations. ... Not necessarily bad if that's what they're aiming for I guess, but I doubt they'd have the same outreach or ROI. ^^
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Snowliasion Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
Rest well G4 Applejack, you were a good mare.
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The-Demihuman Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
Well, that’s what you get when crybullies pull the race card.
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
Or the sex card... Or the gender card... Or the religion card (except Christian or Judism)... Or the ableist card... Or the weight card... or the Class card...

With all these cards being thrown around, it's no wonder these people aren't playing with a full deck.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Agreed, they fail to understand that we're all human beings, so why should certain groups be raised up on a pedestal while others are lowered?
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
Simple. It's because, once upon a time, those types of groups were abused. However, nowadays, in the guise of equality, groups are trying to raise their pedestal higher for revenge for what happened in the past. Folks like you and me want an egalitarian society where people are judged based on their character and start over. But, there will never be true equality if people keep bringing up the past to gain special favor.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Ain't that the truth? My real question is where exactly this mentality started, since I feel society has gone backwards from the progression that was made in the 90's and early 2000's in which nobody cared whether someone was female or ethnic, just that they were a human being in general.
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
Boy, you want to talk about going backwards? We're going right back to segregation in college, except it's Africans separating FROM Caucasians.

www.thecollegefix.com/post/289…

When you really think about it, safe spaces are also a form of segregation, huh?
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The-Demihuman Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
XD I see what you did there. Seriously though, when will entertainment companies learn that Social Justice doesn’t sell? Just ask Marvel. Now Hasbro is making the same mistake. It can’t end well.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
You know, I'm surprised FiM has lasted this long, as most animated shows (toy-driven ones especially) don't last longer than 3 to 4 seasons. What I find off-putting is that the reboot is coming so soon, like only a year after the previous incarnation ends. If they wait 4-5 years it would be a bit less jarring.

Either way, I like the Applejack we already have, even with the jokes people make about her being a flat character and such.
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
Many people do. That's why the backlash of the new change is going to hurt the creative team more than they realize. They are walking on eggshells with thumbtacks in their shoes and an infected big toe.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Well if I remember right, the first episode of FiM was released just mere months after the release of the infamous Newborn Cooties. This, on the other hand, needs to be delayed at least a year or two, though so far, it only seems to be in the planning stages.

Even then, we don't know if the movie they're talking about is going to be theatrical, made for television, or direct-to-DVD, because regardless of which one they go with is a big gamble for the franchise as a whole.
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
I think we all, parents and cartoon-enthusiasts alike, can agree that G3.5 had very little to lose in terms of brand. It was Faust and her team that made something out of nothing. That's why it made sense to start as soon as she did. Here, however, is a matter of being too soon.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Well let's be honest, G3.5 was a failed attempt at trying to update the franchise, and it did so by basically making the franchise FAR more "girly" than it was already and made it so painfully pandering, especially given how conservative Hasbro was with the franchise at the time.

First off, they downsized it to just 7 characters and ONLY those 7, referred to officially as the "Core 7" Ponies, which were Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash (who always dresses in style), Cheerilee, Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, Star Song and Toola Roola. The latter two which have no G4 counterparts as far as I know (but fans have made their own). While the theme song explained their "personalities", they were all pretty interchangable with each other. On the upside though, one could consider the Core 7 to be a prototype for the Mane 6 in G4.

Also, while a lot of bronies hate G3, they ESPECIALLY hated G3.5, and it wasn't just bronies, as even toy collectors saw a disdain for G3.5, which was the likely reason it was short-lived, combined with how pandering and degrading it was in comparison to what came before, let alone what we have now...
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
You know, I'm legitimately worried about G5. There are so many characters they could butcher to appease various crowds, kind of makes me a bit glad I stopped watching a while ago.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
I haven't watched MLP in a while, but if anything, I'm glad the series never stooped that low and has remained wholesome since it started.
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
For the most part, huh?
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Well I never watched the most recent season since I lost interest in MLP around season 6 and wanted to move onto other things. At that time I jumped ship to Steven Universe, but then left that train when I saw what that fandom had ultimately become.
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
Yeah I barely associate with them tbh.

I stopped watching around season 3 due to schedule difficulties, watched E.100,
being someone who doesn't really subscribe to most popular fanon I found it about as entertaining as a wet matchstick.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
Yeah, the biggest fandoms I'm in are Pokemon and Star Wars, and I'm not nearly as active in the former as I was in the past, while I'm not too active in the latter.
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
I'm honestly not really active in any online community anymore at the moment 
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
The sad part is, it's not just MLP. Like a said, lots of media companies are doing it lately to fill some sort of quota. That's part of why Hollywood is tanking. People are too afraid to be creative in the risk of offending someone.
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Masterge77 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist
I agree with that, I'm getting really sick of all the SJW crap that's been polluting Hollywood lately, and I have no idea where this overly-liberal obsession with political correctness started.
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
Yep, I'm workin' on my own media and I say fuck 'em.
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herooftime1000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
At least the indie video game market is still slightly untouched. No one will mess with my freedom of creativity there, and if there are any angry people that don't like what I made, I'll make the same response you did.
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Dusk-Ealain Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Professional General Artist
And if you ever get bigger, as I plan to,
any expo or event you have the stage on,
you've got the right to heckle them right back.
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BellRaiser Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Eh. I feel it's less 'forced diversity' and more making a character that they're capable of giving justice to. Most recent episodes turn her into a supreme child who can't handle different opinions at worst, or the straight-man who speaks up once every 10 minutes at best. This is mostly episodes when she's interacting with the rest of the Mane 6, at least. She's usually at her best in family episodes, which again sucks, because that's why most people give her flak. 

I've seen the leaks, and I'll admit I was really, really bummed out when reading that they might turn her into a city-girl, but I'm willing to accept that if it means she won't go from 'Honest, pragmatic farm girl who is exactly where she wants to be in life' to 'weeeeew doggie that hat surely is ugly lemme stomp on it and then yell about strawberries'. 

She's my favorite pony, and it sucks to see her go since I love everything she's about, but it's preferable to seeing her turned into a more child friendly redneck stereotype. 
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