Update: Fair Exposure and Popular Browse

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By Heidi


:bulletgreen:  Fair Exposure and miscategorization


On January 24th, 2012, we released an hq journal regarding Popular results for Browse. In this journal, we described Fair Exposure -- deviantART's algorithm for Popular browse results.  Fair Exposure's goal is to showcase the most popular deviations in a variety of styles, genres, and art forms, without bias towards a particular topic.

Since the release of our Fair Exposure announcement, especially in the last handful of weeks, we've noticed a concerted, dedicated effort made by deviants, or groups of deviants, to specifically beat (or "game") the system.  Deviations have been intentionally miscategorized in hopes of having them appear "higher" in Popular results.  This has, rightfully so, resulted in complaints from deviants who submit to deviantART in a fair and honest manner.   


:bulletgreen:  What we're doing


The engineers who make up deviantART's Search team are well aware of the current issues and concerns regarding Fair Exposure.  They're already hard at work on Fair Exposure algorithm enhancements that will be significantly more robust when it comes to miscategorization (in addition to a number of other upgrades).  Please know that we're constantly working to maintain Fair Exposure's inherently impartial nature.

In the meantime, while those enhancements are still being refined, swift action will be taken against any deviant who is found to be purposely and/or flagrantly manipulating Fair Exposure.  Such action might include a site suspension or ban.


:bulletgreen:  Better browsing, on the way


Fair Exposure is important in order to truly bring to light the depth and breadth of the work submitted to deviantART daily, with an aim to appeal to a broad spectrum of tastes and interests.  It's equally as important that we keep Fair Exposure healthy and functioning appropriately, as to ensure that deviations on display are truly deserving.

Thank you for your feedback and continued patience as we work to build an optimal browsing experience.

~Heidi


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waywardgal's avatar
've been having this issue for a while. Anytime I upload my drawings don't show up on the browsing page. I let the help desk know and the same guy keeps marking my tickets as solved and talking down to me. I just want to know why my pieces don't show up based on number of favorites anymore.
In this particular case, I'm showing up but my piece has been unfairly pushed down even though it's doing much better than the one that is placed in the first position. This does not happen to other deviants.

I'm starting to feel as though someone is trolling me on this website. Is this some kind of joke? This isn't fair.
chinchongcha's avatar
In my opinion, your ratio of favorite per view is quite low compare to your number of watchers.
You need more execution of background and composition.
waywardgal's avatar
What do you mean by "background and composition"?
chinchongcha's avatar
try to use camera angle or perspective. Don't stick with rectangular area space.
thegeforce's avatar
found this through the random deviation button
battlebrothertherix's avatar
I don't see much actual description of the Fair Exposure algorithm.

You've told us that there is one, but I'm afraid I don't see much actual description.

I'm afraid it isn't even cleverly concealed.
How does the Fair Exposure algorithm work, exactly?
The-UglyTruth's avatar
Do you do web development? Do you understand mySQL/PHP, queries and limits?

Even if you did, why would they tell you 'how' its done? What would be the point? Do you see google telling people how it gathers it's search results?
battlebrothertherix's avatar
Pretty much, yes.

We know how google gathers its results.
Closest word match-up.
Nearest relevance.
Most popular result selected based on previous two parameters.
The-UglyTruth's avatar
'Nearest relevance'.

And how is that defined, exactly? You obviously don't understand the complexity behind it if you think it's that simple. Cut the developers some slack, what they're doing isn't exactly easy.
battlebrothertherix's avatar
Closest relevance: Defined by keywords and definitions written into website coding.

It's closest match-up of words, as in the first parameter, only in greater detail.
The-UglyTruth's avatar
How do they sort it? Decide what is more relevant? It goes way beyond metadata. You've got spiders, filters, analytics, an endless length of parameters. You could go ask google but, oh wait, they don't hand out their algorithms. Why? Because it's their secret to success. I still think you don't grasp exactly what you're trying to talk about here.
battlebrothertherix's avatar
Even so, I'm not asking for an in-depth analysis. The journal said it would explain Fair Exposure but didn't at all.
The-UglyTruth's avatar
"Fair Exposure's goal is to showcase the most popular deviations in a variety of styles, genres, and art forms, without bias towards a particular topic."
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SyntheticsArt's avatar
Lets start an art riot
Journal: [link]
Group: [link] front page
Image: [link]

-- For the people who deserve --
snicholes0000's avatar
I know im very late to the punch on this one, but fair exposure was brought to my attention only about a week ago, by a site moderator, actually. It's a shame the way all this works. The thing is, group mods and other painters, website owners seem to really like my stuff. Ive been recently asked to do art for several websites and people, and (until i quit yesterday) i was a working concept artist. I get very little views, but from all the right people. I ve never been on front page, and im sure i never will. This should be a showing place for mid level artists, not people whos stuff is so bad and theyre just fishing for a compliment, and not for the famous pros either. Do you think Stanley Lau needs you to make him more popular? Who doesnt know Artgerm? He has so much work he can barely finish it(his paintings sometimes take up to 100 hours) I am not just some guy having fun. This is my career and i take it more seriously than you could know. I think its ENTIRELY unfair that i have to compete with naked women. If you hand a man a picture of an alex ross painting and one of a beautiful nude woman, what do you think hes going to look at? I have no respect for people who make their living by taking off their clothes. NO algorithm will fix this, and of course there are far too many images to personally look through. The only thing i can think of that will fix this? Deviantphoto. It should be an entirely diff site. Not bc i don't consider it art, but i don't at all care about a frontpage full of kittens and nude women, lip gloss designs and 5,000 views for a photo of a pencil. Its so sad. Im shocked we even have to report gamers, bc they are right on the frontpage every day, where you can see it. It's so ridiculous the way they attempt to defend themselves. Now that i know how to report them, ill just do that instead. Thanks for your time.
maplebee's avatar
Would be nice to see Fair Exposure also strive to allow unseen artists on the front page by mitigating the presence of already popular artists. There are a few (I don't want to mention names and draw haters down on them when the artists have done nothing wrong) who end up on the front page every single day (usually with the same series of works) - and to say 'every day' is no exaggeration whatsoever. Would be nice if, when an artist makes the front page so many times within a certain time frame, the system then doesn't choose them for the front page for a few days (or whatever span seems fair).
snicholes0000's avatar
My thoughts exactly. Nothing but photos of kittens and naked women.(which has apparently become my catchphrase) Ive spent the last day arguing back and forth with a guy who got 5,ooo friggin views for a photo of a pencil. Thats absolutely absurd.
battlebrothertherix's avatar
Sure, there are some pieces rightfully on the front page, but most of it isn't.
EliteJohan's avatar
So why did =sanguisGelidus get suspended? For starting the petition that you reply to in a friendsly manner here? I don't know if that's why he was suspended, but I can't see any other reasons...
namenotrequired's avatar
I featured this article in my recent Community Relations Update! :D
shellandshilo's avatar
I DON'T AGREE i JUST COME ON HERE TO JUST POST MY PHOTO'S TO HAVE FUN AND ADMIRE OTHER DEVIANTS AND THEIR CREATIVE TALENT IF I WANT POLITIC'S i WILL TURN ON THE NEWS i THINK i WILL STICK TO DESKTOPNEXUS MORE FUN AND LESS CATEGORY'S i JUST CAME ON TO BROWSE AND FOUND ALL THESE NOTICE'S THAT SAID i PUT MY PHOTO'S IN THE WRONG CAT AND THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED HOW RUDE MADE ME FEEL LIKE A CHEAT PLEASE GET A LIFE THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE ENJOYABLE NOT ANY MORE
EliteJohan's avatar
I see your deviations have the right category, and it's not always a category fits perfectly, but placing traditional art in Photoshop .psd files is simply retarded... (just an example)
KiriYume's avatar
Thats much better <_< I was getting tired of seeing the same deviations EVERY day. Popular mi baxside! Its forced popularity and that's kinda unfair
JeanFan's avatar
"In the meantime, while those enhancements are still being refined, swift action will be taken against any deviant who is found to be purposely and/or flagrantly manipulating Fair Exposure. Such action might include a site suspension or ban. "

So where can we report people who are still gaming? It's been a few weeks since your announcement but I'm still seeing deviations being shuffled through particular categories to gain an advantage by the same people who've been and still are gaming the system. I don't think most gamers see your threat as capable of being coalesced into any action. And frankly, I don't think this announcement is really anything more than a PR stunt.
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